Michael Avenatti thread - Page 3

acbytesla · 9th July 2018, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Thirsty got sued by the woman that Broidy allegedly knocked up.

the complaint is under seal, so I cannot say with assurance why Avenatti was named as a defendant. Of course Avenatti rushed right to Twitter to complain about it, and got destroyed by one of the plaintiff's lawyers in reply.

Here is some info. https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...14117622521856

If I were a betting man, I would lay 2-1 odds that the woman/plaintiff went to Avenatti for advice about her NDA and Thirsty managed to breach it causing Broidy to stop payments.

Time will tell, but I think we can all agree that Avenatti is a complete bozo.

What for? Playing into Avenatti's hands. If I were a betting man, I'd say it is frivolous.

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Thirsty got sued by the woman that Broidy allegedly knocked up.

the complaint is under seal, so I cannot say with assurance why Avenatti was named as a defendant. Of course Avenatti rushed right to Twitter to complain about it, and got destroyed by one of the plaintiff's lawyers in reply.

Here is some info. https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...14117622521856

If I were a betting man, I would lay 2-1 odds that the woman/plaintiff went to Avenatti for advice about her NDA and Thirsty managed to breach it causing Broidy to stop payments.

Time will tell, but I think we can all agree that Avenatti is a complete bozo.

Avid readers of this thread were no doubt waiting for the other shoe to drop, and boy howdy, did it ever. In response to Avenatti's thirsty decision to run litigation through his twitter account, the plaintiff's lawyer dropped this thermonuclear own:

Quote:

Putting lies in legal documents doesn’t make them true. When YOU inevitably leak our complaint, it will be very clear why Judge Kwan provisionally sealed it for 20 days. Your media sideshow is a disgrace.:

Damn.....

https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...11156830834689

CapelDodger · 10th July 2018, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Avid readers of this thread were no doubt waiting for the other shoe to drop, and boy howdy, did it ever. In response to Avenatti's thirsty decision to run litigation through his twitter account, the plaintiff's lawyer dropped this thermonuclear own:

Damn.....

https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...11156830834689

I fear your new hero will prove to have feet of clay. He comes across as a complete dick.

The seal will come off in twenty days, so we'll soon see what it's all about.

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

I fear your new hero will prove to have feet of clay. He comes across as a complete dick.

The seal will come off in twenty days, so we'll soon see what it's all about.

You do realize that all the lawyer is doing is replying to Thirsty's attacks on twitter right?

Avenatti went into court today without notice and claiming to represent the plaintiff to get the seal lifted. Seems like Thirsty failed again.

CapelDodger · 10th July 2018, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

You do realize that all the lawyer is doing is replying to Thirsty's attacks on twitter right?

I've read what Avenatti has said too, and he doesn't come across as a dick. Your new hero does.

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Avenatti went into court today without notice and claiming to represent the plaintiff to get the seal lifted. Seems like Thirsty failed again.

Avenatti was acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one, so he was a plaintiff. Who did you think "the plaintiff" referred to?

CapelDodger · 10th July 2018, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

What for? Playing into Avenatti's hands. If I were a betting man, I'd say it is frivolous.

It's definitely bizarre.

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

I've read what Avenatti has said too, and he doesn't come across as a dick. Your new hero does.

Hmmm, you think that your hero is not acting like a dick, but the guy replying to him is? Ok

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Avenatti was acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one, so he was a plaintiff. Who did you think "the plaintiff" referred to?

wait, "acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one" in a suit brought against the defendants by a plaintiff makes a defendant a "plaintiff"? that is hilarious!! Oh man, thanks for the laugh!

the fact that Thirsty put that on his pleading means he is either dishonest or spectacularly incompetent.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 10th July 2018, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Avenatti

Are you feeling okay?

acbytesla · 10th July 2018, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Hmmm, you think that your hero is not acting like a dick, but the guy replying to him is? Ok

wait, "acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one" in a suit brought against the defendants by a plaintiff makes a defendant a "plaintiff"? that is hilarious!! Oh man, thanks for the laugh!

the fact that Thirsty put that on his pleading means he is either dishonest or spectacularly incompetent.

You're spinning. And it is funny.

Bechard is suing him for what? Seriously.

Avenatti was never ever Bechard's attorney so how has he breached any privilege? The answer is he hasn't. If Bechard has a complaint, she needs to take it up with her former attorney, Davidson.

What this proves is you can sue anybody for anything and totally without grounds. You may not win, but you definitely can sue.

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

Are you feeling okay?

I feel terrific, thanks ever so much for asking.

Michael Avenatti just showed again what a sloppy, incompetent lawyer he is, and got his ass handed to him.

Joecool · 10th July 2018, 11:18 AM

I wonder if Avenatti planned this?

Quote:

Trump exercised his power by nominating Brett Kavanaugh Monday night at the White House, adult film star Stormy Daniels exercised hers about a mile away, wearing nothing but black heels.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/0...r-white-house/

acbytesla · 10th July 2018, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

I feel terrific, thanks ever so much for asking.

Michael Avenatti just showed again what a sloppy, incompetent lawyer he is, and got his ass handed to him.

What the hell are you talking about when you say he had his ass handed to him? So Bechard sued him. Big deal. You keep making the mistake of confusing suing and winning a case. Huge difference.

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 11:48 AM

Motion to unseal: denied.

It was a conditional sealing order so the lawsuit should be unsealed in 20 days, unless there are further motions to keep it sealed.

Chalk up yet another loss for Mike (although I expect he will be blathering about the contents of the complaint soon enough, because thirsty.)

acbytesla · 10th July 2018, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Motion to unseal: denied.

It was a conditional sealing order so the lawsuit should be unsealed in 20 days, unless there are further motions to keep it sealed.

Chalk up yet another loss for Mike (although I expect he will be blathering about the contents of the complaint soon enough, because thirsty.)

So what? The motion was denied. This hardly qualifies as getting his ass handed to him.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 10th July 2018, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Michael Avenatti

Are you sure you don't need a lie down?

CapelDodger · 10th July 2018, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Hmmm, you think that your hero is not acting like a dick, but the guy replying to him is? Ok

Your new hero claimed that Avenatti has been begging him not to sue, which doesn't approach credibility - the action of a dick. Avenatti replies that Stris is lying, which is entirely credible since that's the sort of thing dick's do.

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wait, "acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one" in a suit brought against the defendants by a plaintiff makes a defendant a "plaintiff"? that is hilarious!! Oh man, thanks for the laugh!

The motion to remove the seal on the secret suit is not the secret suit itself. It is a different thing. Avenatti is the plaintiff in the motion, and a defendant in the secret suit.

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the fact that Thirsty put that on his pleading means he is either dishonest or spectacularly incompetent.

It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it?

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

The motion to remove the seal on the secret suit is not the secret suit itself. It is a different thing. Avenatti is the plaintiff in the motion, and a defendant in the secret suit.

It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it?

A person bringing a motion is called a "movant." Indeed the actual motion that Thirsty filed and which I linked to earlier refers to the actual plaintiff as the plaintiff and Avenatti as "Defendant."

The absolute cherry on top of that fail sundae was this: "It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it."

Pride goeth before the fall....

Fantastic.

acbytesla · 10th July 2018, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

A person bringing a motion is called a "movant." Indeed the actual motion that Thirsty filed and which I linked to earlier refers to the actual plaintiff as the plaintiff and Avenatti as "Defendant."

The absolute cherry on top of that fail sundae was this: "It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it."

Pride goeth before the fall....

Fantastic.

Hmmmm. Pride goeth before fall. Can we quote you on that?

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 03:11 PM

Scene: courtroom

Bailiff: Smith v. Jones
Attorney 1: Good morning, Fred Doe for plaintiff
Attorney 2: Hello Judge, Dred Foe for Plaintiff
Judge: Oh, where is defendant?
2: Oh I represent the defendant, but it is my motion, so I am Plaintiff.
Judge: falls off chair laughing, holds 2 in contempt.

Fin

acbytesla · 10th July 2018, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Scene: courtroom

Bailiff: Smith v. Jones
Attorney 1: Good morning, Fred Doe for plaintiff
Attorney 2: Hello Judge, Dred Foe for Plaintiff
Judge: Oh, where is defendant?
2: Oh I represent the defendant, but it is my motion, so I am Plaintiff.
Judge: falls off chair laughing, holds 2 in contempt.

Fin

Some people amuse themselves. I wish I was that clever.

CapelDodger · 10th July 2018, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

A person bringing a motion is called a "movant." Indeed the actual motion that Thirsty filed and which I linked to earlier refers to the actual plaintiff as the plaintiff and Avenatti as "Defendant."

I missed your link to the motion; could you re-post it? Meanwhile there's an excerpt shown here https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/...50791568830464 which bears the title "Plaintiff's Memorandum in Support of Ex Parte Applicant". Is that an error? Should it be "Movant's Memorandum"? I live to learn.

The Big Dog · 10th July 2018, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

I missed your link to the motion; could you re-post it? Meanwhile there's an excerpt shown here https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/...50791568830464 which bears the title "Plaintiff's Memorandum in Support of Ex Parte Applicant". Is that an error? Should it be "Movant's Memorandum"? I live to learn.

That is what I linked to earlier. Avenatti ********** up again when he erroneously wrote that it was plaintiff's motion.

Spectacular incompetence.

acbytesla · 10th July 2018, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

That is what I linked to earlier. Avenatti ********** up again when he erroneously wrote that it was plaintiff's motion.

Spectacular incompetence.

Incompetent eh?

That lawyer has won lots of cases and made more money than you could dream of. And unlike Trump, Avenatti was born of modest means. Talk to us when you've pleaded and won a case in court. Because this Internet lawyering from the cheap seats seems pretty absurd.

CapelDodger · 11th July 2018, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

That is what I linked to earlier. Avenatti ********** up again when he erroneously wrote that it was plaintiff's motion.
Spectacular incompetence.

Incredible incompetence. Which is to say, not credible.

A plaintiff is someone who initiates a legal action - in this case, a request for the seal to be removed from the secret suit. Avenatti was the plaintiff, and the case for that request being granted was set out in the Plaintiff's Memorandum.

Avenatti is apparently a defendant in the secret suit, but the secret suit and the request for the seal on the secret suit to be lifted are different things. In the latter thing, Avenatti was the plaintiff.

CapelDodger · 11th July 2018, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Incompetent eh?

That lawyer has won lots of cases and made more money than you could dream of. And unlike Trump, Avenatti was born of modest means. Talk to us when you've pleaded and won a case in court. Because this Internet lawyering from the cheap seats seems pretty absurd.

Yup.

The Big Dog · 11th July 2018, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

Incredible incompetence. Which is to say, not credible.

A plaintiff is someone who initiates a legal action - in this case, a request for the seal to be removed from the secret suit. Avenatti was the plaintiff, and the case for that request being granted was set out in the Plaintiff's Memorandum.

Avenatti is apparently a defendant in the secret suit, but the secret suit and the request for the seal on the secret suit to be lifted are different things. In the latter thing, Avenatti was the plaintiff.

You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

say, maybe you will understand this if 'super' lawyer Mikey avenatti explains it!

Here is the motion he filed:

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...50791568830464

Click on the image!

You see the first line, he refers to "Plaintiff Sarah Bechard." In line two its says "defendant Michael Avenatti ("Defendant")."

ya following here??

Now, on the bottom he wrote "Plaintiff's Memorandum." Why did he do that? Because he is an incompetent hack of an ambulance chaser.

BASTA!

CapelDodger · 11th July 2018, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...50791568830464

Click on the image!

You see the first line, he refers to "Plaintiff Sarah Bechard." In line two its says "defendant Michael Avenatti ("Defendant")."

With reference to the secret suit, in which Bechard is the plaintiff and Avenatti apparently one of the defendants.

Quote:

ya following here??

Now, on the bottom he wrote "Plaintiff's Memorandum." Why did he do that? Because he is an incompetent hack of an ambulance chaser.

BASTA!

The memorandum is the case for the request that the seal on the secret suit be lifted : in that legal action (which is not the secret suit) Avenatti is the plaintiff and the memorandum is the Plaintiff's Memorandum.

So the very successful lawyer did not make an egregious error, and you did not catch him out on it. The seal was not lifted, but not because Avenatti was confused as to his role or standing in the case. And in a less than three weeks it'll come off anyway, unless some effort is made to keep it secret, at which point one would have to wonder why.

Why is it being kept secret now, for that matter? What's the word in the treehouse?

The Big Dog · 11th July 2018, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by CapelDodger

The memorandum is the case for the request that the seal on the secret suit be lifted : in that legal action (which is not the secret suit) Avenatti is the plaintiff and the memorandum is the Plaintiff's Memorandum.

So the very successful lawyer did not make an egregious error, and you did not catch him out on it.

Let me let you down easy. Either Avenatti was wrong in his motion where he called himself "defendant" (repeatedly) or (are ya following?) he was wrong when he referred to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on the bottom of the page. (as I have repeatedly and expertly explained, his ****up was referring to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on every page of his motion (that he lost)) There ain't no way your incompetent hero is coming out of this competently.

By the way, the ex parte application was filed in the suit where the Plaintiff is Sarah Bechard and a defendant is Michael Avenatti.

Yeah, TBD caught the incompetent bankrupt lawyer out on an egregious error. Because TBD is just that good.

acbytesla · 11th July 2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Let me let you down easy. Either Avenatti was wrong in his motion where he called himself "defendant" (repeatedly) or (are ya following?) he was wrong when he referred to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on the bottom of the page. (as I have repeatedly and expertly explained, his ****up was referring to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on every page of his motion (that he lost)) There ain't no way your incompetent hero is coming out of this competently.

By the way, the ex parte application was filed in the suit where the Plaintiff is Sarah Bechard and a defendant is Michael Avenatti.

Yeah, TBD caught the incompetent bankrupt lawyer out on an egregious error. Because TBD is just that good.

You still going on about this? Getting mighty boring. Avenatti is a highly successful attorney. Are you?

The Big Dog · 12th July 2018, 07:40 AM

A federal bankruptcy judge issued a restraining order late Wednesday to block the firm of

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Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for porn star Stormy Daniels, from spending any fees it collects while it owes more than $10 million in unpaid debts and back taxes.

The move by Judge Catherine Bauer of U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Santa Ana was a severe blow to Avenatti, whose personal financial troubles have deepened as his star has risen on cable news.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...711-story.html

Notice that contemptible and inept knucklehead said "that was what we wanted."

Yeah, having a Judge oversee every single dime of collection from 54 cases is what thirsty wanted.

Bwhahaha!!

Basta baby!

acbytesla · 12th July 2018, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

A federal bankruptcy judge issued a restraining order late Wednesday to block the firm of

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...711-story.html

Notice that contemptible and inept knucklehead said "that was what we wanted."

Yeah, having a Judge oversee every single dime of collection from 54 cases is what thirsty wanted.

Bwhahaha!!

Basta baby!

Is someone here obsessed? I think so.

The Big Dog · 21st July 2018, 02:10 PM

Thirsty admits, nay brags about conduct that is in clear violation of Rule 2-100 of the California Ethics rules by engaging in a discussion with Cohen who is represented by counsel.

http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Attorneys/C...les/Rule-2-100

This guy is not just scumbag, he is a *********** dumbass.

acbytesla · 21st July 2018, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Thirsty admits, nay brags about violating Rule 2-100 of the California Ethics rules by engaging in a discussion with Cohen who is represented by counsel.

http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Attorneys/C...les/Rule-2-100

This guy is not just scumbag, he is a *********** dumbass scumbag.

Rule 2-100 Communication With a Represented Party

(A) While representing a client, a member shall not communicate directly or indirectly about the subject of the representation with a party the member knows to be represented by another lawyer in the matter, unless the member has the consent of the other lawyer.

Rule 2-100 Communication With a Represented Party
(A) While representing a client, a member shall not communicate directly or indirectly about the subject of the representation with a party the member knows to be represented by another lawyer in the matter, unless the member has the consent of the other lawyer.

(B) For purposes of this rule, a "party" includes:

(1) An officer, director, or managing agent of a corporation or association, and a partner or managing agent of a partnership; or

(2) An association member or an employee of an association, corporation, or partnership, if the subject of the communication is any act or omission of such person in connection with the matter which may be binding upon or imputed to the organization for purposes of civil or criminal liability or whose statement may constitute an admission on the part of the organization.

(C) This rule shall not prohibit:

(1) Communications with a public officer, board, committee, or body; or

(2) Communications initiated by a party seeking advice or representation from an independent lawyer of the party's choice; or

(3) Communications otherwise authorized by law.

Discussion:

Rule 2-100 is intended to control communications between a member and persons the member knows to be represented by counsel unless a statutory scheme or case law will override the rule. There are a number of express statutory schemes which authorize communications between a member and person who would otherwise be subject to this rule. These statutes protect a variety of other rights such as the right of employees to organize and to engage in collective bargaining, employee health and safety, or equal employment opportunity. Other applicable law also includes the authority of government prosecutors and investigators to conduct criminal investigations, as limited by the relevant decisional law.

Rule 2-100 is not intended to prevent the parties themselves from communicating with respect to the subject matter of the representation, and nothing in the rule prevents a member from advising the client that such communication can be made. Moreover, the rule does not prohibit a member who is also a party to a legal matter from directly or indirectly communicating on his or her own behalf with a represented party. Such a member has independent rights as a party which should not be abrogated because of his or her professional status. To prevent any possible abuse in such situations, the counsel for the opposing party may advise that party (1) about the risks and benefits of communications with a lawyer-party, and (2) not to accept or engage in communications with the lawyer-party.

Talking to another lawyer does not constitute a violation of professional ethics.

Try another tack to smear Avenatti This one is off by a mile.

The Big Dog · 21st July 2018, 03:09 PM

I notice that a bunch of Thirsty Fans have been claiming that Thirsty did not violate the rule because Cohen is a lawyer.

Notably, the fact that the other party represented by counsel is a lawyer does not in any way, shape or form abrogate the violation of the Rule.

Lawyers hire lawyers to represent them in litigation, and they are not entitled to less protection than any other client.

NoahFence · 21st July 2018, 03:25 PM

Please, continue.

acbytesla · 21st July 2018, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

I notice that a bunch of Thirsty Fans have been claiming that Thirsty did not violate the rule because Cohen is a lawyer.

Notably, the fact that the other party represented by counsel is a lawyer does not in any way, shape or form abrogate the violation of the Rule.

Lawyers hire lawyers to represent them in litigation, and they are not entitled to less protection than any other client.

You simply don't understand the rule. This is not surprising since you are a couch potato attorney with zero experience in the law and you have a hard on for Avenatti.

Why don't you wait for Lanny Davis to assert that Avenatti was out of bounds before you start your vilification of Avenatti on this?

No, you'd rather display a faux outrage.

The Big Dog · 21st July 2018, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by NoahFence

Please, continue.

Happy to continue:

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...34481839210496

https://twitter.com/ScottGreenfield/...04160741740544

Oh look actual lawyers agreeing with TBD's analysis

/Ah, the laughing dog, that is level of discourse I have come to expect.

NoahFence · 21st July 2018, 03:56 PM

The laughing dog is all you deserve.

CapelDodger · 21st July 2018, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Let me let you down easy. Either Avenatti was wrong in his motion where he called himself "defendant" (repeatedly) or (are ya following?) he was wrong when he referred to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on the bottom of the page. (as I have repeatedly and expertly explained, his ****up was referring to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on every page of his motion (that he lost)) There ain't no way your incompetent hero is coming out of this competently.

As I've explained, Avenatti is a defendant in the secret suit but the plaintiff in the application to have the seal lifted.

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By the way, the ex parte application was filed in the suit where the Plaintiff is Sarah Bechard and a defendant is Michael Avenatti.

What do you think you mean by "filed in the [secret] suit"? The secret suit and the ex parte application are distinct entities. In the former Avenatti is a defendant. In the latter he is the plaintiff.

Quote:

Yeah, TBD caught the incompetent bankrupt lawyer out on an egregious error. Because TBD is just that good.

I don't imagine anything will ever shake your belief in that.

acbytesla · 21st July 2018, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by The Big Dog

Happy to continue:

https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...34481839210496

https://twitter.com/ScottGreenfield/...04160741740544

Oh look actual lawyers agreeing with TBD's analysis

/Ah, the laughing dog, that is level of discourse I have come to expect.

I'm still laughing. Opinions are like anuses . Everyone has one. And when it comes to something political, the anuses come out like a mooning party.

As I said. Why don't you wait for Lanny Davis, Michael Cohen's attorney to complain? We really don't know the specifics of their conversation and as always the devil is in the details.

9th July 2018, 09:04 AM	#81
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Thirsty got sued by the woman that Broidy allegedly knocked up. the complaint is under seal, so I cannot say with assurance why Avenatti was named as a defendant. Of course Avenatti rushed right to Twitter to complain about it, and got destroyed by one of the plaintiff's lawyers in reply. Here is some info. https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...14117622521856 If I were a betting man, I would lay 2-1 odds that the woman/plaintiff went to Avenatti for advice about her NDA and Thirsty managed to breach it causing Broidy to stop payments. Time will tell, but I think we can all agree that Avenatti is a complete bozo. What for? Playing into Avenatti's hands. If I were a betting man, I'd say it is frivolous.
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10th July 2018, 09:02 AM	#82
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Thirsty got sued by the woman that Broidy allegedly knocked up. the complaint is under seal, so I cannot say with assurance why Avenatti was named as a defendant. Of course Avenatti rushed right to Twitter to complain about it, and got destroyed by one of the plaintiff's lawyers in reply. Here is some info. https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...14117622521856 If I were a betting man, I would lay 2-1 odds that the woman/plaintiff went to Avenatti for advice about her NDA and Thirsty managed to breach it causing Broidy to stop payments. Time will tell, but I think we can all agree that Avenatti is a complete bozo. Avid readers of this thread were no doubt waiting for the other shoe to drop, and boy howdy, did it ever. In response to Avenatti's thirsty decision to run litigation through his twitter account, the plaintiff's lawyer dropped this thermonuclear own: Quote: Putting lies in legal documents doesn’t make them true. When YOU inevitably leak our complaint, it will be very clear why Judge Kwan provisionally sealed it for 20 days. Your media sideshow is a disgrace.: Damn..... https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...11156830834689
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10th July 2018, 09:44 AM	#83
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Avid readers of this thread were no doubt waiting for the other shoe to drop, and boy howdy, did it ever. In response to Avenatti's thirsty decision to run litigation through his twitter account, the plaintiff's lawyer dropped this thermonuclear own: Damn..... https://twitter.com/PeterStris/statu...11156830834689 I fear your new hero will prove to have feet of clay. He comes across as a complete dick. The seal will come off in twenty days, so we'll soon see what it's all about.
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10th July 2018, 09:49 AM	#84
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by CapelDodger I fear your new hero will prove to have feet of clay. He comes across as a complete dick. The seal will come off in twenty days, so we'll soon see what it's all about. You do realize that all the lawyer is doing is replying to Thirsty's attacks on twitter right? Avenatti went into court today without notice and claiming to represent the plaintiff to get the seal lifted. Seems like Thirsty failed again.
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10th July 2018, 10:15 AM	#85
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by The Big Dog You do realize that all the lawyer is doing is replying to Thirsty's attacks on twitter right? I've read what Avenatti has said too, and he doesn't come across as a dick. Your new hero does. Quote: Avenatti went into court today without notice and claiming to represent the plaintiff to get the seal lifted. Seems like Thirsty failed again. Avenatti was acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one, so he was a plaintiff. Who did you think "the plaintiff" referred to?
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10th July 2018, 10:16 AM	#86
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by acbytesla What for? Playing into Avenatti's hands. If I were a betting man, I'd say it is frivolous. It's definitely bizarre.
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10th July 2018, 10:23 AM	#87
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by CapelDodger I've read what Avenatti has said too, and he doesn't come across as a dick. Your new hero does. Hmmm, you think that your hero is not acting like a dick, but the guy replying to him is? Ok Quote: Avenatti was acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one, so he was a plaintiff. Who did you think "the plaintiff" referred to? wait, "acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one" in a suit brought against the defendants by a plaintiff makes a defendant a "plaintiff"? that is hilarious!! Oh man, thanks for the laugh! the fact that Thirsty put that on his pleading means he is either dishonest or spectacularly incompetent.
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10th July 2018, 10:33 AM	#88
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 23,090	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Avenatti Are you feeling okay?
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10th July 2018, 10:53 AM	#89
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Hmmm, you think that your hero is not acting like a dick, but the guy replying to him is? Ok wait, "acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one" in a suit brought against the defendants by a plaintiff makes a defendant a "plaintiff"? that is hilarious!! Oh man, thanks for the laugh! the fact that Thirsty put that on his pleading means he is either dishonest or spectacularly incompetent. You're spinning. And it is funny. Bechard is suing him for what? Seriously. Avenatti was never ever Bechard's attorney so how has he breached any privilege? The answer is he hasn't. If Bechard has a complaint, she needs to take it up with her former attorney, Davidson. What this proves is you can sue anybody for anything and totally without grounds. You may not win, but you definitely can sue.
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10th July 2018, 10:56 AM	#90
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim Are you feeling okay? I feel terrific, thanks ever so much for asking. Michael Avenatti just showed again what a sloppy, incompetent lawyer he is, and got his ass handed to him.
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10th July 2018, 11:18 AM	#91
Joecool Master Poster Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,394	I wonder if Avenatti planned this? Quote: Trump exercised his power by nominating Brett Kavanaugh Monday night at the White House, adult film star Stormy Daniels exercised hers about a mile away, wearing nothing but black heels. http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/0...r-white-house/
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10th July 2018, 11:21 AM	#92
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog I feel terrific, thanks ever so much for asking. Michael Avenatti just showed again what a sloppy, incompetent lawyer he is, and got his ass handed to him. What the hell are you talking about when you say he had his ass handed to him? So Bechard sued him. Big deal. You keep making the mistake of confusing suing and winning a case. Huge difference.
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10th July 2018, 11:48 AM	#93
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Motion to unseal: denied. It was a conditional sealing order so the lawsuit should be unsealed in 20 days, unless there are further motions to keep it sealed. Chalk up yet another loss for Mike (although I expect he will be blathering about the contents of the complaint soon enough, because thirsty.)
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10th July 2018, 11:59 AM	#94
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Motion to unseal: denied. It was a conditional sealing order so the lawsuit should be unsealed in 20 days, unless there are further motions to keep it sealed. Chalk up yet another loss for Mike (although I expect he will be blathering about the contents of the complaint soon enough, because thirsty.) So what? The motion was denied. This hardly qualifies as getting his ass handed to him.
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10th July 2018, 12:04 PM	#95
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 23,090	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Michael Avenatti Are you sure you don't need a lie down?
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10th July 2018, 02:51 PM	#96
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Hmmm, you think that your hero is not acting like a dick, but the guy replying to him is? Ok Your new hero claimed that Avenatti has been begging him not to sue, which doesn't approach credibility - the action of a dick. Avenatti replies that Stris is lying, which is entirely credible since that's the sort of thing dick's do. Quote: wait, "acting on behalf of the defendants in the secret suit, of whom he is one" in a suit brought against the defendants by a plaintiff makes a defendant a "plaintiff"? that is hilarious!! Oh man, thanks for the laugh! The motion to remove the seal on the secret suit is not the secret suit itself. It is a different thing. Avenatti is the plaintiff in the motion, and a defendant in the secret suit. Quote: the fact that Thirsty put that on his pleading means he is either dishonest or spectacularly incompetent. It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it?
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10th July 2018, 02:59 PM	#97
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by CapelDodger The motion to remove the seal on the secret suit is not the secret suit itself. It is a different thing. Avenatti is the plaintiff in the motion, and a defendant in the secret suit. It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it? A person bringing a motion is called a "movant." Indeed the actual motion that Thirsty filed and which I linked to earlier refers to the actual plaintiff as the plaintiff and Avenatti as "Defendant." The absolute cherry on top of that fail sundae was this: "It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it." Pride goeth before the fall.... Fantastic.
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10th July 2018, 03:05 PM	#98
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog A person bringing a motion is called a "movant." Indeed the actual motion that Thirsty filed and which I linked to earlier refers to the actual plaintiff as the plaintiff and Avenatti as "Defendant." The absolute cherry on top of that fail sundae was this: "It's more likely that you're rather confused, isn't it." Pride goeth before the fall.... Fantastic. Hmmmm. Pride goeth before fall. Can we quote you on that?
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10th July 2018, 03:11 PM	#99
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Scene: courtroom Bailiff: Smith v. Jones Attorney 1: Good morning, Fred Doe for plaintiff Attorney 2: Hello Judge, Dred Foe for Plaintiff Judge: Oh, where is defendant? 2: Oh I represent the defendant, but it is my motion, so I am Plaintiff. Judge: falls off chair laughing, holds 2 in contempt. Fin
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10th July 2018, 03:39 PM	#100
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Scene: courtroom Bailiff: Smith v. Jones Attorney 1: Good morning, Fred Doe for plaintiff Attorney 2: Hello Judge, Dred Foe for Plaintiff Judge: Oh, where is defendant? 2: Oh I represent the defendant, but it is my motion, so I am Plaintiff. Judge: falls off chair laughing, holds 2 in contempt. Fin Some people amuse themselves. I wish I was that clever.
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10th July 2018, 04:21 PM	#101
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by The Big Dog A person bringing a motion is called a "movant." Indeed the actual motion that Thirsty filed and which I linked to earlier refers to the actual plaintiff as the plaintiff and Avenatti as "Defendant." I missed your link to the motion; could you re-post it? Meanwhile there's an excerpt shown here https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/...50791568830464 which bears the title "Plaintiff's Memorandum in Support of Ex Parte Applicant". Is that an error? Should it be "Movant's Memorandum"? I live to learn.
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10th July 2018, 06:27 PM	#102
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by CapelDodger I missed your link to the motion; could you re-post it? Meanwhile there's an excerpt shown here https://twitter.com/michaelavenatti/...50791568830464 which bears the title "Plaintiff's Memorandum in Support of Ex Parte Applicant". Is that an error? Should it be "Movant's Memorandum"? I live to learn. That is what I linked to earlier. Avenatti ********** up again when he erroneously wrote that it was plaintiff's motion. Spectacular incompetence.
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10th July 2018, 06:37 PM	#103
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog That is what I linked to earlier. Avenatti ********** up again when he erroneously wrote that it was plaintiff's motion. Spectacular incompetence. Incompetent eh? That lawyer has won lots of cases and made more money than you could dream of. And unlike Trump, Avenatti was born of modest means. Talk to us when you've pleaded and won a case in court. Because this Internet lawyering from the cheap seats seems pretty absurd.
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11th July 2018, 01:57 PM	#104
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by The Big Dog That is what I linked to earlier. Avenatti ********** up again when he erroneously wrote that it was plaintiff's motion. Spectacular incompetence. Incredible incompetence. Which is to say, not credible. A plaintiff is someone who initiates a legal action - in this case, a request for the seal to be removed from the secret suit. Avenatti was the plaintiff, and the case for that request being granted was set out in the Plaintiff's Memorandum. Avenatti is apparently a defendant in the secret suit, but the secret suit and the request for the seal on the secret suit to be lifted are different things. In the latter thing, Avenatti was the plaintiff.
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11th July 2018, 01:58 PM	#105
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by acbytesla Incompetent eh? That lawyer has won lots of cases and made more money than you could dream of. And unlike Trump, Avenatti was born of modest means. Talk to us when you've pleaded and won a case in court. Because this Internet lawyering from the cheap seats seems pretty absurd. Yup.
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11th July 2018, 02:15 PM	#106
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by CapelDodger Incredible incompetence. Which is to say, not credible. A plaintiff is someone who initiates a legal action - in this case, a request for the seal to be removed from the secret suit. Avenatti was the plaintiff, and the case for that request being granted was set out in the Plaintiff's Memorandum. Avenatti is apparently a defendant in the secret suit, but the secret suit and the request for the seal on the secret suit to be lifted are different things. In the latter thing, Avenatti was the plaintiff. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. say, maybe you will understand this if 'super' lawyer Mikey avenatti explains it! Here is the motion he filed: https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...50791568830464 Click on the image! You see the first line, he refers to "Plaintiff Sarah Bechard." In line two its says "defendant Michael Avenatti ("Defendant")." ya following here?? Now, on the bottom he wrote "Plaintiff's Memorandum." Why did he do that? Because he is an incompetent hack of an ambulance chaser. BASTA!
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11th July 2018, 02:41 PM	#107
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 24,102	Originally Posted by The Big Dog https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/...50791568830464 Click on the image! You see the first line, he refers to "Plaintiff Sarah Bechard." In line two its says "defendant Michael Avenatti ("Defendant")." With reference to the secret suit, in which Bechard is the plaintiff and Avenatti apparently one of the defendants. Quote: ya following here?? Now, on the bottom he wrote "Plaintiff's Memorandum." Why did he do that? Because he is an incompetent hack of an ambulance chaser. BASTA! The memorandum is the case for the request that the seal on the secret suit be lifted : in that legal action (which is not the secret suit) Avenatti is the plaintiff and the memorandum is the Plaintiff's Memorandum. So the very successful lawyer did not make an egregious error, and you did not catch him out on it. The seal was not lifted, but not because Avenatti was confused as to his role or standing in the case. And in a less than three weeks it'll come off anyway, unless some effort is made to keep it secret, at which point one would have to wonder why. Why is it being kept secret now, for that matter? What's the word in the treehouse?
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11th July 2018, 02:51 PM	#108
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Originally Posted by CapelDodger The memorandum is the case for the request that the seal on the secret suit be lifted : in that legal action (which is not the secret suit) Avenatti is the plaintiff and the memorandum is the Plaintiff's Memorandum. So the very successful lawyer did not make an egregious error, and you did not catch him out on it. Let me let you down easy. Either Avenatti was wrong in his motion where he called himself "defendant" (repeatedly) or (are ya following?) he was wrong when he referred to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on the bottom of the page. (as I have repeatedly and expertly explained, his ****up was referring to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on every page of his motion (that he lost)) There ain't no way your incompetent hero is coming out of this competently. By the way, the ex parte application was filed in the suit where the Plaintiff is Sarah Bechard and a defendant is Michael Avenatti. Yeah, TBD caught the incompetent bankrupt lawyer out on an egregious error. Because TBD is just that good.
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11th July 2018, 08:52 PM	#109
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Let me let you down easy. Either Avenatti was wrong in his motion where he called himself "defendant" (repeatedly) or (are ya following?) he was wrong when he referred to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on the bottom of the page. (as I have repeatedly and expertly explained, his ****up was referring to it as "plaintiff's memorandum" on every page of his motion (that he lost)) There ain't no way your incompetent hero is coming out of this competently. By the way, the ex parte application was filed in the suit where the Plaintiff is Sarah Bechard and a defendant is Michael Avenatti. Yeah, TBD caught the incompetent bankrupt lawyer out on an egregious error. Because TBD is just that good. You still going on about this? Getting mighty boring. Avenatti is a highly successful attorney. Are you?
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12th July 2018, 07:40 AM	#110
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	A federal bankruptcy judge issued a restraining order late Wednesday to block the firm of Quote: Michael Avenatti, the lawyer for porn star Stormy Daniels, from spending any fees it collects while it owes more than $10 million in unpaid debts and back taxes. The move by Judge Catherine Bauer of U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Santa Ana was a severe blow to Avenatti, whose personal financial troubles have deepened as his star has risen on cable news. http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...711-story.html Notice that contemptible and inept knucklehead said "that was what we wanted." Yeah, having a Judge oversee every single dime of collection from 54 cases is what thirsty wanted. Bwhahaha!! Basta baby!
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12th July 2018, 09:18 AM	#111
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog A federal bankruptcy judge issued a restraining order late Wednesday to block the firm of http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...711-story.html Notice that contemptible and inept knucklehead said "that was what we wanted." Yeah, having a Judge oversee every single dime of collection from 54 cases is what thirsty wanted. Bwhahaha!! Basta baby! Is someone here obsessed? I think so.
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21st July 2018, 02:10 PM	#112
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	Thirsty admits, nay brags about conduct that is in clear violation of Rule 2-100 of the California Ethics rules by engaging in a discussion with Cohen who is represented by counsel. http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Attorneys/C...les/Rule-2-100 This guy is not just scumbag, he is a *********** dumbass.
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21st July 2018, 02:48 PM	#113
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 20,323	Originally Posted by The Big Dog Thirsty admits, nay brags about violating Rule 2-100 of the California Ethics rules by engaging in a discussion with Cohen who is represented by counsel. http://www.calbar.ca.gov/Attorneys/C...les/Rule-2-100 This guy is not just scumbag, he is a *********** dumbass scumbag. Rule 2-100 Communication With a Represented Party (A) While representing a client, a member shall not communicate directly or indirectly about the subject of the representation with a party the member knows to be represented by another lawyer in the matter, unless the member has the consent of the other lawyer. Rule 2-100 Communication With a Represented Party (A) While representing a client, a member shall not communicate directly or indirectly about the subject of the representation with a party the member knows to be represented by another lawyer in the matter, unless the member has the consent of the other lawyer. (B) For purposes of this rule, a "party" includes: (1) An officer, director, or managing agent of a corporation or association, and a partner or managing agent of a partnership; or (2) An association member or an employee of an association, corporation, or partnership, if the subject of the communication is any act or omission of such person in connection with the matter which may be binding upon or imputed to the organization for purposes of civil or criminal liability or whose statement may constitute an admission on the part of the organization. (C) This rule shall not prohibit: (1) Communications with a public officer, board, committee, or body; or (2) Communications initiated by a party seeking advice or representation from an independent lawyer of the party's choice; or (3) Communications otherwise authorized by law. Discussion: Rule 2-100 is intended to control communications between a member and persons the member knows to be represented by counsel unless a statutory scheme or case law will override the rule. There are a number of express statutory schemes which authorize communications between a member and person who would otherwise be subject to this rule. These statutes protect a variety of other rights such as the right of employees to organize and to engage in collective bargaining, employee health and safety, or equal employment opportunity. Other applicable law also includes the authority of government prosecutors and investigators to conduct criminal investigations, as limited by the relevant decisional law. Rule 2-100 is not intended to prevent the parties themselves from communicating with respect to the subject matter of the representation, and nothing in the rule prevents a member from advising the client that such communication can be made. Moreover, the rule does not prohibit a member who is also a party to a legal matter from directly or indirectly communicating on his or her own behalf with a represented party. Such a member has independent rights as a party which should not be abrogated because of his or her professional status. To prevent any possible abuse in such situations, the counsel for the opposing party may advise that party (1) about the risks and benefits of communications with a lawyer-party, and (2) not to accept or engage in communications with the lawyer-party. Talking to another lawyer does not constitute a violation of professional ethics. Try another tack to smear Avenatti This one is off by a mile.
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21st July 2018, 03:09 PM	#114
The Big Dog Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 28,933	I notice that a bunch of Thirsty Fans have been claiming that Thirsty did not violate the rule because Cohen is a lawyer. Notably, the fact that the other party represented by counsel is a lawyer does not in any way, shape or form abrogate the violation of the Rule. Lawyers hire lawyers to represent them in litigation, and they are not entitled to less protection than any other client.
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21st July 2018, 03:25 PM	#115
NoahFence Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Patriot Nation Posts: 22,131	Please, continue.