Cont: Brexit: Now What? Part 5

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Britain obtained a European Arrest Warrant to nab the Russian Novichok suspects.
A EUROPEAN Arrest Warrant. You know, the ones issued by the EU that we're about to leave.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Britain obtained a European Arrest Warrant to nab the Russian Novichok suspects.
A EUROPEAN Arrest Warrant. You know, the ones issued by the EU that we're about to leave.
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Yes, and it will be completely useless for getting Russia to release the suspects - just as useless as a British arrest warrant.
 
ceptimus said:
Yes, and it will be completely useless for getting Russia to release the suspects - just as useless as a British arrest warrant.
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But it means if the suspects step in to any country that is part of the EAW they will be arrested and extradited to Britain.
 
jimbob said:
Don't you and Darat know anything about Tomorrow's World. It's not actually using a time machine, but just an extrapolation - and I have always thought it rather optimistic.
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I was both extrapolating and being optimistic.

Otherwise I'd have said 'spikes on their donkeys' and 'fighting for potable water'
 
Blue Mountain said:
Unhelpful answer: to the people and institutions who usually get said pork, in ridings currently held by Conservative MPs.
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So all to Yorkshire and possible Lincolnshire, then?

More probable answer: a bunch of companies that have some sort of tie to the current government. It sounds like some people are going to get a lot of money for something that should cost an order of magnitude less. Which, admittedly, is £9.2 million, not the £1 million I had originally mentioned.

I'm still uncertain as to why a feasibility study should cost just south of a hundred million pounds. Or is their idea of a "study" to actually build and launch a satellite?
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Yes, I'm sure the Public Acconts Committee will be totally looking the other way, just for this one project.
 
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P.J. Denyer said:
I was both extrapolating and being optimistic.

Otherwise I'd have said 'spikes on their donkeys' and 'fighting for potable water'
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I prefer a more genteel societal regression.

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Is my understanding right that the UK Government has just provided everyone with user guides for life jackets that are not available or do not even exist?
 
Degeneve said:
Is my understanding right that the UK Government has just provided everyone with user guides for life jackets that are not available or do not even exist?
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We don't want to hit any icebergs, the icebergs will be damaged if we hit them, they don't want that. We have produced some life jackets that will not help in keeping you afloat but it does't matter because neither us or the icebergs want a collision so an actual collision and the need for life jackets is highly unlikely.

P.S we seem to have been sailing for a number of months without realizing the compass is not working and we don't know what direction we are sailing in. Don't worry we will get to the sun but this icy gale is blowing in an making things difficult.
 
TheSupermeerkat said:
I look forwards to the BritNav(tm) - I expect some gormless Tory sitting down to negotiate for a Russian, European or US launch system will be hilarious.
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Just needs the right trade deal with Amazon.

You enter the required journey into your BritNav(tm), it emails an order to Amazon in, oh, I dunno, Lichtenstein or wherever they're not paying tax this month, and wait. Within a day or two a drone will deliver your guidance cassette and off you go.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Just needs the right trade deal with Amazon.

You enter the required journey into your BritNav(tm), it emails an order to Amazon in, oh, I dunno, Lichtenstein or wherever they're not paying tax this month, and wait. Within a day or two a drone will deliver your guidance cassette and off you go.
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Excellent and the 2 day delay gives you a chance to trap rats to barter for fuel.
 
GlennB said:
Rees-Fogg comes across, more and more, as just plain nuts.

There has to be an agenda here ... maximum Brexit damage=maximum eventual corporate profit? Privatisation left right and centre?
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Don't forget that the Mogg has made sure his money is outside the UK and firmly in the EU.

What a cockwomble.
 
The government leaps into action over the lack of agricultural workers
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-45429397

From Leave Watch:
99% of seasonal farm workers are from Eastern Europe.

The government has announced a pilot of 2,500 6-month visas for non-EU migrant farm workers to help cover labour shortages after Brexit...

...amounting to 1 additional worker for every 85 UK farms.
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Phew. That should sort it.
 
abaddon said:
Don't forget that the Mogg has made sure his money is outside the UK and firmly in the EU.

What a cockwomble.
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I do hope some EU bureaucrats have been tasked with finding an excuse to seize his assets post Brexit.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Jacob Rees-Mogg has suggested that after Brexit, people crossing the Irish border should be subject to 'inspections, just like during The Troubles'. he also said "It's not a border that one has to go through every day."

Apart from 30,000 or so people that cross every day to go to and from work.
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Don't worry the Northern Ireland secretary is getting to grips with her brief.

Mariana Hyde's assessment of her performance and statements

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...y-northern-ireland-secretary-tories?CMP=fb_gu

ay attention, entrails-pickers: this dead government has yielded up a new sign. She is Karen Bradley, actual secretary of state for actual Northern Ireland, and she has granted an interview to Parliament’s The House magazine. “I freely admit,” Karen freely admitted, “that when I started this job, I didn’t understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland. I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought, for example, in Northern Ireland – people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice versa.”
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Clearly, it is not simply the initial imbecility of having no clue about the central facts of Northern Irish politics and history, even though you were 28 (TWENTY EIGHT) when the Good Friday agreement was signed. It is also the second imbecility of thinking you should ever mention that in public, much less as delightedly, as Karen did. “It’s when you realise that,” burbled the secretary of state, “that you can then start to understand some of the things that the politicians say and some of the rhetoric.”
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the rest is quite cutting too
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Boris Johnson has attacked Theresa's May's Brexit plan, saying she had "wrapped a suicide vest" around the British constitution and "handed the detonator" to Brussels.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900
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Everyone sgrees the current plan is terrible. As no 10 point out there is no better plan for leaving the EU offered by Boris or anyone else. No person understanding trade will back a no deal brexit. Even those who don't understand economics and trade realise that no deal would be a disaster for the UK. The only ones backing it are short term investors wanting a get richer quicker deal.

The best thing for the UK is remain. Party politics (in Labour and Tory camps) is currently preventing a public say on the actual arrangements as opposed to the over optimistic promises 2 years ago.
 
Lothian said:
As no 10 point out there is no better plan for leaving the EU offered by Boris or anyone else.
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Apart from the Canada+ plan that David Davies and his department were working on...


The differences within the Tory party now look so deep, that a split/UKIP defections look likely.
 
Anyone else like Johnson's ever so subtle invoking of Islamophobia with the "suicide-vest" quote?
 
It's unfortunate that a vote made on the basis of hypotheticals -- arguments and projections that have been shown to be false or overstated -- is considered more legitimate than another, second vote that now could be made on the basis of hard facts and sober reality. Further, international affairs have shifted so greatly since the advent of Trump (and the impact of Brexit itself) that "Britain First" sounds quite a bit more naive and dangerous, or should do by now.
 
Naive and dangerous is a selling point to the Brexiteers.

From my previous link:

As for the coveted endorsement from someone Boris would unquestionably have pitied mercilessly at school (they missed being Eton contemporaries by a year), it came in an LBC interview. “Two years ago, in the Conservative party leadership campaign, I supported Boris Johnson, because I thought he would deliver Brexit extraordinarily well,” Rees-Mogg intoned, suggesting he has inherited all his father’s gifts of prophecy. “I haven’t seen anything that would cause me to change my mind on that.” Not anything?! Should have gone to MonocleSavers.
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In addition to the suicide vest comment Johnson offered up these gems:

He said that rather than getting a "", Britain is saying, "yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir", to Brussels.
"At every stage of the talks so far, Brussels gets what Brussels wants," wrote Mr Johnson.
"It is a humiliation. We look like a seven-stone weakling being comically bent out of shape by a 500lb gorilla."
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900

He really seems to have been clueless about who had the power in this negotiation. At every point during the referendum campaign when it was made clear a 'generous free trade deal', was simply a Leave fantasy Johnson and his fellow Brexiteers dismissed the warnings as scaremongering. Someone really needs to explain to Johnson that the EU is a 500 pound gorilla relative to the UK's 7 Stone weakling...
 
Hlafordlaes said:
It's unfortunate that a vote made on the basis of hypotheticals -- arguments and projections that have been shown to be false or overstated -- is considered more legitimate than another, second vote that now could be made on the basis of hard facts and sober reality. Further, international affairs have shifted so greatly since the advent of Trump (and the impact of Brexit itself) that "Britain First" sounds quite a bit more naive and dangerous, or should do by now.
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Well getting people to vote leave without understanding what Brexit would actually mean was the cornerstone of the Leave campaign. They have no intention of letting anyone change their mind just because that 'generous free trade deal' was a Brexiteer fantasy.
 
Garrison said:
In addition to the suicide vest comment Johnson offered up these gems:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45462900

He really seems to have been clueless about who had the power in this negotiation. At every point during the referendum campaign when it was made clear a 'generous free trade deal', was simply a Leave fantasy Johnson and his fellow Brexiteers dismissed the warnings as scaremongering. Someone really needs to explain to Johnson that the EU is a 500 pound gorilla relative to the UK's 7 Stone weakling...
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If the EU is a 500 pound gorilla, then the UK government is not only a 7 stone weakling, but one that has been sniffing glue
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Yes, because once that shortage hits, the British youth is going to leap into action and take those jobs, now unrightfully taken from them by them foreigners.
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I know around me it was never about the fruit picking jobs (of which there are many).
It was, pure and simple, down to having people speaking foreign on the High Street and having the cheek to open Polish food shops in town, even if the only other option would be another empty shop-front.

Oh, and not liking Cameron (which I suppose is fair enough).
 
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