Michael Avenatti thread

WilliamSeger said:
Lol, if you bumped that thread, then you obviously didn't learn anything from it. :p
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'k. Feel free to "chime" in there.

In this thread we are discussing bankruptcy grifter Michael Avenatti.

case in point, leave it to him to take credit for turning in a child porn tape, that was caused not by anything he did, but rather a tv program exposing R. Kelly's horrific ways.

I guess tho that we should praise him for doing the absolute minimum, tho. :rolleyes:
 
The Big Dog said:
'k. Feel free to "chime" in there.

In this thread we are discussing bankruptcy grifter Michael Avenatti.

case in point, leave it to him to take credit for turning in a child porn tape, that was caused not by anything he did, but rather a tv program exposing R. Kelly's horrific ways.

I guess tho that we should praise him for doing the absolute minimum, tho. :rolleyes:
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Well, then, I'll never vote for Avenatti again! I hate sleazy grifters who take credit for things they didn't do! :rolleyes:

And no thanks for the invite to that thread. I read the first page and a little into the second, by which time the logical error you were making had been explained pretty well at least three times. I jumped to the last page -- 18! -- to see what could possibly still be an issue, and it seemed you were even more confused than at the beginning. But I haven't had much luck myself explaining to you what "logical argument" even means, much less "fallacy," so I wasn't really surprised.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Well, then, I'll never vote for Avenatti again! I hate sleazy grifters who take credit for things they didn't do! :rolleyes:
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It tickles my soul that the fantastic straw man of "I didn't vote for him" has become the go to response.

The reason people are not going to vote for him is because of guys like me who worked tirelessly to show he is a ******* scam artist and all around huckster.

He was invited to be the lead speaker in Iowa, and was just about to go on a speaking tour in New Hampshire. say, skeptics, who knows what those two states share in common in relation to voting for national office?

/yeah, i get that you won't show up in the other thread.
 
The Big Dog said:
False.
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You can say it is false all day. EVERYONE including you know it's true.

Trump is a 100 times sleazier than Avenatti and you have not focused your indignation towards him. Not, that we really care about Avenatti. Although we did enjoy him pointing out to the world what a lying cheating sleazy POS Trump happens to be. We liked that a lot.

And lets face it, that's what really bothers you about Avenatti. It's not his questionable ethics. Your easy dismissal of the sleaze in the White House is proof of that. Some of us just find your obsession with a lawyer who doesn't hold a public office and who hasn't run for any political office absurd. I mean this is a US Politics forum.

The Big Dog said:
well gratifying to see that you concede it is fallacious.

I bumped the tu quoque thread to give you a chance to learn while be obsessed by TBD.
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I never conceded it was fallacious. Putting words in my mouth is your response? Seriously?

Also, you should consider taking a course in logic. Because you don't have a clue what is and isn't a fallacy. NO ONE disputes that Avenatti is interested in attention. That was was conceded. But Avenatti is hardly relevant in a world where Super Sleaze is President.
 
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The Big Dog said:
The reason people are not going to vote for him is because of guys like me who worked tirelessly to show he is a ******* scam artist and all around huckster.
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:thumbsup: Good for you -- we've reached the national emergency stage of scam artists and all around hucksters!
 
a_unique_person said:
All we have to do is call out another grifter, Trump. Trump, in contrast to Avenatti, can and is doing real harm.
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The reason he is getting hamstrung on doing harm is because of people who called Avenatti out for his ********.

/As for Trump? GOLLY! Oh man, if only there were say... 50% of the threads on the USA politics forum to do that! How will skeptics survive if they cannot repeatedly thread **** on every thread with bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but TRUMPIES! :rolleyes:
 
The Big Dog said:
The reason he is getting hamstrung on doing harm is because of people who called Avenatti out for his ********.

/As for Trump? GOLLY! Oh man, if only there were say... 50% of the threads on the USA politics forum to do that! How will skeptics survive if they cannot repeatedly thread **** on every thread with bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but TRUMPIES! :rolleyes:
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Boring.
 
The Big Dog said:
The reason he is getting hamstrung on doing harm is because of people who called Avenatti out for his ********.

/As for Trump? GOLLY! Oh man, if only there were say... 50% of the threads on the USA politics forum to do that! How will skeptics survive if they cannot repeatedly thread **** on every thread with bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but TRUMPIES! :rolleyes:
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Yea bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu Trump! DOH! Trump is President.. Avenatti is pretty much nobody.

Trump is the one undermining checks and balances and the Constitution. Trump is the one sucking up to Putin and threatening our alliances. Trump is the one threatening freedom of the press. Avenatti is simply the lawyer that went on TV and exposed over and over and over that Trump was lying to us.

Your answer is to ignore the clear message and shoot the messenger, not just once but 1,000+ times over. Avenatti has no effect on our lives so we dont give a crap about him. Trump OTOH has a great effect on our lives and yet he doesn't matter to you.
 
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The Big Dog said:
The reason he is getting hamstrung on doing harm is because of people who called Avenatti out for his ********.

/As for Trump? GOLLY! Oh man, if only there were say... 50% of the threads on the USA politics forum to do that! How will skeptics survive if they cannot repeatedly thread **** on every thread with bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-but TRUMPIES! :rolleyes:
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Well, just one question and I'll leave you alone: Now that you've defeated Avenatti, are you gonna help us with this Trump guy or not?
 
WilliamSeger said:
Well, just one question and I'll leave you alone: Now that you've defeated Avenatti, are you gonna help us with this Trump guy or not?
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Oh I don't think Thirsty's defeated yet, one must keep on one's watch.

/last part of that other thing: my clarion warnings were ignored for years, and now one must deal with the consequences.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh I don't think Thirsty's defeated yet, one must keep on one's watch.

/last part of that other thing: my clarion warnings were ignored for years, and now one must deal with the consequences.
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Of course. Can you say HYPOCRISY?
 
If you want to talk about President Trump, there are several threads in which to do so. This thread is a discussion of Michael Avenatti - and if you have nothing pertinent to say about him, please move along to another thread. Thank you.
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Agatha said:
If you want to talk about President Trump, there are several threads in which to do so. This thread is a discussion of Michael Avenatti - and if you have nothing pertinent to say about him, please move along to another thread. Thank you.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Agatha
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I thought this was a political forum? The point is a certain individual goes on and on about someone who is not a political player.

Perhaps the Avenatti thread should be moved out of the US Politics forum and moved to the Social Issues and Current Events forum.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh I don't think Thirsty's defeated yet, one must keep on one's watch.

/last part of that other thing: my clarion warnings were ignored for years, and now one must deal with the consequences.
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Are you actually a better master of the Poe than Cain?

That has to be ironic bombast, no?

A lawyer for a porn star, who managed to seriously embarrass the serving POTUS, leading to the president's lawyer plea bargaining against Trump, was an achievement.

However he's not going anywhere near high office.

I would say that Avenatti is probably more suitable for high office than Trump or McConnell - but that's a *really* low bar.
 
jimbob said:
A lawyer for a porn star, who managed to seriously embarrass the serving POTUS, leading to the president's lawyer plea bargaining against Trump, was an achievement.
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See, another thing Avenatti took credit for that he should not.

Cohen plea bargained because Cohen ****** up in ways that had nothing to do with trump.

The paying off women was disclosed by the Wall Street Journal and Peter Stris and his client.

Avenatti is thirsty glory seeking grifter and repeat bankruptcy fraudster
 
Let's remember what Avenatti the lawyer did to Donald Trump. He exposed Trump's lies to the American public. For all of Avenatti's flaws, he showed the world what a sleazebag Donald Trump was/is. It was Avenatti that brought to light how Trump paid a porn star and a Playboy bunny both 6 figures each to hide his affairs from the American people.

This led to Michael Cohen pleading guilty and implicating the President in illegal acts.
 
The Big Dog said:
See, another thing Avenatti took credit for that he should not.

Cohen plea bargained because Cohen ****** up in ways that had nothing to do with trump.

The paying off women was disclosed by the Wall Street Journal and Peter Stris and his client.

Avenatti is thirsty glory seeking grifter and repeat bankruptcy fraudster
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Totally FALSE. Trump ****** up. He committed campaign finance crimes And desperately tried to keep Stormy Daniels from telling her story. It was Avenatti who hammered that story home. Avenatti may not be a good politician but, he certainly exposed the sleazebag in chief for who he is.

For all his flaws, we should be thankful that Avenatti patriotically brought this to light.
 
acbytesla said:
Let's remember what Avenatti the lawyer did to Donald Trump. He exposed Trump's lies to the American public. For all of Avenatti's flaws, he showed the world what a sleazebag Donald Trump was/is. It was Avenatti that brought to light how Trump paid a porn star and a Playboy bunny both 6 figures each to hide his affairs from the American people.

This led to Michael Cohen pleading guilty and implicating the President in illegal acts.
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... And then everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped. And Congress impeached him, and Hillary Clinton is now our president just as God intended.
 
theprestige said:
... And then everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped. And Congress impeached him, and Hillary Clinton is now our president just as God intended.
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No but his former lawyer is going to prison, and is cooperating against Trump.

What would it take to convince you that Trump is a danger to the US?

As far as I can see, he'll keep pushing the boundaries until stopped.
 
theprestige said:
... And then everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped. And Congress impeached him, and Hillary Clinton is now our president just as God intended.
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If only.

But we should still be thankful to the man. He stood up when so many are cowards. I'd take Avenatti's patriotism over gutless Lindsey Graham
 
theprestige said:
... And then everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped. And Congress impeached him, and Hillary Clinton is now our president just as God intended.
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acbytesla said:
If only.

But we should still be thankful to the man. He stood up when so many are cowards. I'd take Avenatti's patriotism over gutless Lindsey Graham
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I'm not sure about patriotism, but self-interest.
 
Avenatti had nothing at all to do with the playboy model. Both were exposed by the wsj.

So many lies
 
The Big Dog said:
Avenatti had nothing at all to do with the playboy model. Both were exposed by the wsj.

So many lies
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So many lies is right! And Trump paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to hide them. And thank you Mr. Avenatti for shedding light on the actions of that scumbag.

Are you with us Mr Big Dog? Aren't you pleased that Avenatti stood up to President POS?
 
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The Big Dog said:
Avenatti's source for Michael Cohen stolen SARS was charged today.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/politics/michael-cohen-tax-returns/

Gotta imagine that Avenatti has got criminal liability for accepting documents that he knew were improperly taken from the SARS system.

Avenatti claimed that the source for the documents were his work product.

How does a rat ****** like Avenatti stay out of jail??
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i notice that the source downloaded documents, called Avenatti, then went back to get more documents using other search terms.

Scumbag
 
The Big Dog said:
It tickles my soul that the fantastic straw man of "I didn't vote for him" has become the go to response.

The reason people are not going to vote for him is because of guys like me who worked tirelessly to show he is a ******* scam artist and all around huckster.
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theprestige said:
... And then everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped. And Congress impeached him, and Hillary Clinton is now our president just as God intended.
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$100%
 
WilliamSeger said:
Well, then, I'll never vote for Avenatti again! I hate sleazy grifters who take credit for things they didn't do! :rolleyes:

And no thanks for the invite to that thread. I read the first page and a little into the second, by which time the logical error you were making had been explained pretty well at least three times. I jumped to the last page -- 18! -- to see what could possibly still be an issue, and it seemed you were even more confused than at the beginning. But I haven't had much luck myself explaining to you what "logical argument" even means, much less "fallacy," so I wasn't really surprised.
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Thing is, I, and many others, have known about what a piece of crap R. Kelly is for years. If you ever watched thew Boondocks, you've likely known. If you remember Aaliyah, you know he married her when she was 15, and produced her first album, titled "Age Ain't Nothing but a Number." People knew him to hang around playgrounds, middle school parking lots, and the like. And I know this, because people have said so, directly. He wasn't what you would call "subtle". And that's why I refused to buy any song with him on it. It's not just that he's a child rapist, it's that even his music sounds like he's hitting on little girls.

I know about the show Surviving R. Kelly - That's an important part of this as well, credit to the people involved with that, I applauded it at the time, I'm not trying to take anything away from their work. In fact, many of the people involved in that series have been after him for *years*, and they generally don't care who joins in, so long as he's away from children. If it's Avenatti, okay.
 
Mumbles said:
Thing is, I, and many others, have known about what a piece of crap R. Kelly is for years. If you ever watched thew Boondocks, you've likely known. If you remember Aaliyah, you know he married her when she was 15, and produced her first album, titled "Age Ain't Nothing but a Number." People knew him to hang around playgrounds, middle school parking lots, and the like. And I know this, because people have said so, directly. He wasn't what you would call "subtle". And that's why I refused to buy any song with him on it. It's not just that he's a child rapist, it's that even his music sounds like he's hitting on little girls.

I know about the show Surviving R. Kelly - That's an important part of this as well, credit to the people involved with that, I applauded it at the time, I'm not trying to take anything away from their work. In fact, many of the people involved in that series have been after him for *years*, and they generally don't care who joins in, so long as he's away from children. If it's Avenatti, okay.
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I remember Charlie Brooker making similar points about ten years ago if not longer.
 
Mumbles said:
Thing is, I, and many others, have known about what a piece of crap R. Kelly is for years. If you ever watched thew Boondocks, you've likely known. If you remember Aaliyah, you know he married her when she was 15, and produced her first album, titled "Age Ain't Nothing but a Number." People knew him to hang around playgrounds, middle school parking lots, and the like. And I know this, because people have said so, directly. He wasn't what you would call "subtle". And that's why I refused to buy any song with him on it. It's not just that he's a child rapist, it's that even his music sounds like he's hitting on little girls.

I know about the show Surviving R. Kelly - That's an important part of this as well, credit to the people involved with that, I applauded it at the time, I'm not trying to take anything away from their work. In fact, many of the people involved in that series have been after him for *years*, and they generally don't care who joins in, so long as he's away from children. If it's Avenatti, okay.
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The Boondocks was the ****.
 
I need a shower after reading TMZ's detailed description of the second R Kelly video that Avenatti provided to prosecutors. Dude is sick.
 
jimbob said:
I remember Charlie Brooker making similar points about ten years ago if not longer.
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It was February 2002 when his first rape tape with an underage girl came to light.
 
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