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Old 14th May 2019, 08:13 PM   #3721
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So ...
So: The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years. This post is one or more ofPersistent insanity about real active asteroids has been explained to him many times in an electric comet insanity thread !
Persistent insane lies about the electric comet insanity which has no sublimation, centrifugal force or impacts producing dust - just the insanity of imaginary, invisible electric discharges ding whatever magic the massively deluded Thunderbolts cult wants.

ETA: Also the persistent insanity of mentioning active asteroids which debunk his electric comet insanity by not being in similar orbits to comets as that stupidity wants !
Electric comets still do not exist!: EC predicts that 100,000's of asteroids should be comets!

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Old 14th May 2019, 10:07 PM   #3722
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So sublimation and centrifugal force are the two main culprits for dust removal.

Ok just like on active asteroids!

Did we miss impacts?
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Old 14th May 2019, 10:12 PM   #3723
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As yet another example of Sol88 insane posts over the last 10 year, there is his citation of a paper on rotating comets when his electric comet insanity has no rotating comets !

On migration of dust and ice grains on the surface of the rotating comet nucleus

A rotating body has a maximum velocity at its equator. That is where it is most possible for dust grains to be ejected. Thus "We have shown that the grains traveling to the equator of the comet can be thrown out into space" is what mainstream physics allows.
The last sentence is the obvious fact that the amount of dust covering ices will influence comet activity. So the migration of dust from rotation should influence comet activity.

Like a rotating garden sprinkler? Looks like, from this angle and solar illumination anyway, a fractal assemblage of filamentary highly colimated jets.
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So sublimation and centrifugal force are the two main culprits for dust removal.

Ok just like on active asteroids!

Did we miss impacts?
What the hell are you blathering on about, and why are you still here?
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Old 15th May 2019, 01:56 AM   #3725
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So do you agree jonesdave116 that sublimation is not the driver of activity? As pointed out in a few papers now.

Or you are still happy for special sublimation of cometary rock?
That is not what those papers are saying. Learn to read.
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Which non existent electric field was reality check on about?
Electric fields are a complete irrelevance to your failed woo.
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So just to make sure the sublimation of water ice is the main driver of the activity on the Dirtysnowball?

Yes or no reality check, jonesdave116?
Yes. As stated. Learn to read;

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The spatial correlation between dust and water, both coming from the sun-lit side of the comet, shows that water is the main driver of dust activity in this time period.
Which part of that is not penetrating what counts for your brain?
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New *physics: *Dust *is *many *orders *of *magnitude *heavier *than *ions *and *can *carry *many *orders *of * *magnitude *larger *+ *or *-‐ * *me *dependent *charge. *


Dusty Plasmas in the Solar System

Now, which electric field is this dust responding to again reality check. Must of missed that bit.

Also

Is this the same electric field accelerating charged particles?
Gibberish. Which electric field? And what has that got to do with your failed woo? Where was the EDM (lol)? The discharges? The rock? You lost. Go away, and get over it.
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Well there you go, Reality check was spot on.

Sorry for all my crank woo woo.

I mean so it has been shown in a peer reviewed paper, this paper On migration of dust and ice grains on the surface of the rotating comet nucleus

Got the MATHS that PROVES this is the case.

That, along with sublimation seems to be the main culprit!

Unlike my unscientific electric fields, charged dust, electric currents pseudo scientific malarky!
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. As you have been told multiple times, by multiple posters. Go away. Lern to scienz.
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The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years. This is his active asteroids are comets insanity that debunks his electric comet insanity.
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The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years. This is his active asteroids are comets insanity that debunks his electric comet insanity.
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Originally Posted by jonesdave116 View Post
You haven't got a clue what you are talking about. As you have been told multiple times, by multiple posters. Go away. Lern to scienz.
The dust is flung off a rotating nucleus.

Absolutely love it, this learning scienz stuff.

Maths is quite convoluted and in depth but yeah a viable option.

Anymore scienz available jonesdave116?
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The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
Insanity about dust being (possibly) flung off the rotating nucleus of a comet when the electric comet insanity does not have that.
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Water formation on the moon

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"Overall, this study advances our understanding on the origin of water as detected on the moon and other airless bodies in our solar system such as Mercury and asteroids and provides, for the first time, a scientifically sound and proven mechanism of water formation," HIGP's Jeffrey Gillis-Davis concluded.
And comets, just saying...
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The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
Repeated delusion that any comet is the Moon !
Repeated delusion that a water producing mechanism explicitly stated to be for the "moon and other airless bodies in our solar system such as Mercury and asteroids" happens on comets.
Usual insane lie about the electric comet insanity which does not have this water producing mechanism (that insanity has electric discharges magically producing water from solid rock).
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Water is being made, brilliant.
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Water is being made, brilliant.
The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
Irrelevant nonsense about an experiment confirming water being made on the Moon. Water formation on the moon
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Chemistry Professor Ralf I. Kaiser and HIGP's Jeffrey Gillis-Davis designed the experiments to test the synergy between hydrogen protons from solar wind, lunar minerals, and micrometeorite impacts. Zhu irradiated samples of olivine, a dry mineral that serves as a surrogate of lunar material, with deuterium ions as a proxy for solar wind protons.

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Why not comets? Since our understanding has evolved away from thinking comets were mostly ice to mostly asteroidial type composition.
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The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
Repeated delusion that any comet is the Moon !
Repeated delusion that a water producing mechanism explicitly stated to be for the "moon and other airless bodies in our solar system such as Mercury and asteroids" happens on comets.
Usual insane lie about the electric comet insanity which does not have this water producing mechanism (that insanity has electric discharges magically producing water from solid rock).
Happens on comets as well.
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Water formation on the moon



And comets, just saying...
Nope, just lying, as usual.
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Why not comets? Since our understanding has evolved away from thinking comets were mostly ice to mostly asteroidial type composition.
How many times do you need to be told? Nowhere near enough protons in the solar wind. Solar wind isn't even reaching the comet nucleus for months on end. We have been through all this before. Why can you not manage to remember these things? Do you have a learning disability?
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Happens on comets as well.
Is another lie.
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The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
Persistent "evolved away from thinking comets were mostly ice to mostly asteroidial type composition" lies.

No one has said that. It is only in his head, not that of astronomers or anyone who thinks rationally about asteroids or comets. Comets are still made of ices sublimating to give jets, coma and tail. Comets are still made of dust. The ratio in a few comets is more dust than ices, e.g. at least 17% ices for 67P. which has lead to evolving (present tense !) toward comets in general being more dust than ices.

Comet dust and asteroid rock will have similar composition as the mainstream has held for 70 years! A common origin in the early solar system says this. They will also differ because the common origin is different parts of the early solar system, comets have a high % of ices.

The insanity is emphasizing yet again that his electric comet insanity is that comets and asteroids have are made of terrestrial-like rock from rocky planets such as the Earth. That is insane because we have tonnes of samples of asteroids and that rock formed in outer space. This is insane because we have dust grains from a comet and that dust formed in outer space. This is insane because the average density of comets is much less than that of asteroids (~0.6 g/cc vs rus ~3 g/cc) as he has known for at least 10 years !

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Happens on comets as well.
The usual lies, delusions, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The delusion that the Moon is a comet or vice versa. Ditto for Mercury, asteroid and other airless bodies. Comets are not moons, planets or asteroids. Comets are not always airless (comet coma). The insanity in this case is
  • His fact-less and ignorant fantasy is not part of the electric comet insanity !
  • A delusion that comets only have water ices?
  • If it did happen, this mainstream physics would be included in the mainstream model.
    Comets will still have water, CO, CO2, methane and ammonia ices. Those ices will still sublimate. Jets, coma and tails will still be formed by those sublimating ices. This mechanism would be a tiny contribution to the production of water ices and water.
  • Any contribution to water ices from this mechanism cannot be significant has been explained to him many times .
    It certainly cannot explain the amount of water ices that we have detected. Thus comets have to have native sources of water ices. And native sources of CO, CO2, methane and ammonia ices.

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Well! Well! Well! How SADLY PATHETIC!!

Sol88!

I'm away for 16 weeks and I come back to find our resident 'ec' expert still has NOTHING salient to offer regarding the subject of this thread! Silly me! Why would I expect anything to be different? You've been at this least 13 years, And still NO science! Still NO evidence! Still NO model! Sol88! How's your little world? Would you like to continue our discussion of the mainstream comet model used by Deca et al (2017)? What about Lisse et al (2006) as relates to accretion processes observed here, there and everywhere? What's next for you an me? More unanswered ASSIGNMENTS? Have you found that A'Hearn et al (20XX) paper yet? You know, the one where A'Hearn et al present evidence that COMETS ARE NOT MADE OF ROCK! They're actually made of volatile ices and dust!

What's the matter, Sol88? Are you still afraid to look through the ol' telescope? PATHETIC EFFORT! Don't you think it's time to up your game?

In the last 16 weeks have you taken any time to answer my questions? I've literally asked you hundreds and hundreds of pointed questions! Some easy! Some hard! Regardless, these questions are the same kinds of questions you and your camp NEED to answer if you want to graduate from RELIGION to science!

Sol88! Help me out here! How can you and I build a working 'model' of an 'electric comet' ...? Well, you start by answering my questions!!! ALL OF THEM!!!

Now, because the internet never, ever forgets, let's take a wee step back ...!

Here's my last post from 2019/01/29!

And here's your response ...

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Yes I’d say there’s a cockup.

Happy to correct them if you find some value.

Sol88! In case it was not obvious, I do find value in the answers you provide to my questions! Why?

I ask questions to learn things! I ask questions to explore concepts and ideas with people! I ask questions because I seek knowledge! I asked my first set of 20 simple 'Yes/No' questions to explore your personal view of what science is, and what aspects of the 'eu/es/ec' are valid from your perspective!

Sol88, I ask you questions because I never, ever want to misrepresent your views! Your answers are always important!

Again, I present for your dining and dancing pleasure, the table of 20 questions! All you need do is "quote" this post and edit the answers to align with your knowledge and opinion of things. No need for explanation. That can and will come later! I'm just looking for Yes/No answers at this point. Please note, I've included your original answers as recorded in my last post.

TABLE: Sol88's 20 Answers to Indagator's 20 Questions
# Questions Answers
01 Could any principles/physics of the electric comet be wrong? Yes ---> Yes / No
02 Could any principles/physics of the electric star be wrong? Yes ---> Yes / No
03 Could any principles/physics of the electric universe be wrong? Yes ---> Yes / No
04 Could every aspect of the electric universe be wrong? No ---> Yes / No
05 Does gravity play any part in orbital mechanics? Yes ---> Yes / No
06 Does gravity play any part in star formation processes? No ---> Yes / No
07 Does electrostatics/electrodynamics play any part in orbital mechanics? Yes ---> Yes / No
08 Does electrostatics/electrodynamics play any part in star formation processes? No ---> Yes / No
09 Are stars powered by nuclear fusion occurring in the core? Yes ---> Yes / No
10 Are stars powered by nuclear fusion occurring on the surface? Yes ---> Yes / No
11 Are asteroids made of rock? No ---> Yes / No
12 Are asteroids made of volatile ices and dusts? Yes ---> Yes / No
13 Are comets made of rock? No ---> Yes / No
14 Are comets made of volatile ices and dusts? Yes ---> Yes / No
15 Is sublimation (i.e., a state change from solid to gas) a real physical process? Yes ---> Yes / No
16 Is eccentricity important to comet charging and discharging processes? Yes ---> Yes / No
17 Is electric discharge machining responsible for terrestrial geomorphology (e.g., the Grand Canyon)? Yes ---> Yes / No
18 Does a magnetic field always indicate the presence of an electric current? Yes ---> Yes / No
19 Do you know where the water ice line is for our star at this point in its life cycle? No ---> Yes / No
20 Do you know what a sedimentary tidal rhythmite is? -?- ---> Yes / No

Please, Sol88, if you would be so kind! I really want to know what you know! And I thank you in advance!

Once you've answered these simple questions, we'll work on ASSIGNMENT #004 together!
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Have you found that A'Hearn et al (20XX) paper yet?
That is actually one of the bits of insanity that Sol88 persists with. When presented with the fact that anyone can find the papers A'Hearn has written Sol88 obsesses about and lies about a few sentences from A'Hearn's probably last paper !

When presented with the fact that A'Hearn has written dozens of papers on ices and dust comets that include ices and dust and not rock, Sol88 obsesses about and lies about a few sentences from A'Hearn's probably last paper !

Knowing that is an insane insult of the deceased A'Hearn to associate him with the electric comet insanity, Sol88 obsesses about and lies about a few sentences from A'Hearn's probably last paper !

I hope Sol88 changes the insanely ignorant answer to question 10 so that the Earth is not fried by the gamma radiation from the electric sun "nuclear fusion occurring on the surface" delusion!

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