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Old 6th June 2019, 03:40 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
Yer don't say? Duh, I never woulda thunk it. Jeenius!

FFS, that's implicitly understood by everyone who can tie their own shoelaces, has been for decades.

What they are (pride marches) is a bunch of weirdos who now enjoy the complete protection of the state and law enforcement as they get in people's faces with extremely revealing and provocative clothing while simulating sex (once called 'obscene') acts in organised public events, which people can criticise or object to at their peril.

They are a demonstration of political power.
Man, every group of weirdos is under compete protection by the government, not really a distinction that needs to be said, that is the point of a free society.

Your first point being demolished there, destroys the foundation of your second.

It's cool if they annoy you, again that's the point of a free society. And,if you really don't like it, then go join in the straight pride parade. To underline, if my point is unclear, that is the point of a free society.

And if you just don't like displays relating to any sexuality so wouldn't want to march , good news, and it comes courtesy of our friend, a free society.

So pride parades are not any kind of a display of political power, unless you mean the political idea that everyone is equal and entitled to display their views,beliefs and lifestyle within the bounds of the law.

And whatever your stripe of belief ( within the realm of the law obviously.) , anyone who would silence it is someone I oppose. The question is, can you say the same? If not you are politically free loading from a free society.
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Old 6th June 2019, 03:53 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
It would, as they say, be fabulous.
Don't forget Judas Priest!
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
I suggest they hold a nice tea party instead.
But that would probably get the Native Americans upset if they dressed properly for the occasion....
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Once again I am annoyed that people in a site devoted to skeptical thinking often ignore the basic rule of "Don't Feed The Trolls".
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The mistake they make is that, because "straight" people are a large majority of the population, they think somehow that they represent that majority, when what they really represent is a very small number of bigots.
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Old 6th June 2019, 04:05 PM   #46
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I love when bigots project their bigotry on others by default
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Originally Posted by pipelineaudio View Post
I love when bigots project their bigotry on others by default
Best description of this thread so far.
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Old 6th June 2019, 04:28 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Once again I am annoyed that people in a site devoted to skeptical thinking often ignore the basic rule of "Don't Feed The Trolls".
Oh it quickly became playing with the chew toy instead.
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Old 6th June 2019, 06:31 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
The mistake they make is that, because "straight" people are a large majority of the population, they think somehow that they represent that majority, when what they really represent is a very small number of bigots.
Is the same with us in the LGBT crowd really. Most people just want to go about their lives. But we live in an age where any spokesperson for any just about any non political party group is self appointed, and the most obnoxious extremist one could find.
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I hope the local AntiFa shows up and beats the everloving crap out of these turds.
No. Pointing and laughing would be better.
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Old 6th June 2019, 07:36 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
No. Pointing and laughing would be better.
Milkshakes for all!
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Old 6th June 2019, 07:42 PM   #52
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That is a great idea!

I suggest that such a parade use music from Queen, Elton John, Boy George and a few other such people as an accompaniment.
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Old 6th June 2019, 07:45 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
Yer don't say? Duh, I never woulda thunk it. Jeenius!

FFS, that's implicitly understood by everyone who can tie their own shoelaces, has been for decades.

What they are (pride marches) is a bunch of weirdos who now enjoy the complete protection of the state and law enforcement as they get in people's faces with extremely revealing and provocative clothing while simulating sex (once called 'obscene') acts in organised public events, which people can criticise or object to at their peril.

They are a demonstration of political power.
Here's where we need a yawning smiley!!!!!
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I hope the local AntiFa shows up and beats the everloving crap out of these turds.
...in the works.

This is basically an excuse for the latest Nazi wannabe parade. They'll be handled as is appropriate.
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Old 6th June 2019, 08:19 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
...in the works.

This is basically an excuse for the latest Nazi wannabe parade. They'll be handled as is appropriate.

Ya love to see it, folks...
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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
...in the works.

This is basically an excuse for the latest Nazi wannabe parade. They'll be handled as is appropriate.
That literally makes my inner eye cringe.

No one is scared of a movement who's idea of going out kitted up are the credit card knives you get as a free bonus at an army surplus store, and recycle the second you get home.

Dangerous enough to make the left look bad, weak enough to not even be "tough guys" right.
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Is the same with us in the LGBT crowd really. Most people just want to go about their lives. But we live in an age where any spokesperson for any just about any non political party group is self appointed, and the most obnoxious extremist one could find.
Press coverage, much like social media viewings, naturally seems to gravitate toward the most extremist members of a movement; resulting in increased public awareness. Even if said individuals didn't formerly possess any real power within said movement.
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Originally Posted by fuelair View Post
Here's where we need a yawning smiley!!!!!

Here.... have one of mine...


Yawn


YAWN


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A friend of mine wrote this on Facebook today. I thought I'd share it (with permission).

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I am white. Male. Heterosexual. Cisgender.

None of these things have kept me from getting a job. Going to school. Using the bathroom. None of them have brought me harassment or violence or threats of violence or death. I can - and have - walked sagely through my neighbourhood at night with the knowledge that my identity will make me invisible to most dangers.

I'm not preached against in pulpits. Blamed for crime and poverty and the wrath of gods. I don't have my bodily rights restricted. I'm not told that I have to cover myself lest I pollute the minds and morals of others. I'm not assumed to be committing a crime by simply existing in a space where someone else thinks that I shouldn't be. I don't have the police being used as a weapon against me when someone doesn't want to see me somewhere.

I'm never told that I'm being emotional. Going through a phase. Just seeking attention. Deceived by dark forces. Playing the race card. Choosing to be what I am. I'm not second guessed, or dismissed entirely.

I'm seen. I'm heard.

That's why I don't get a parade or a march. And that's why I'm perfectly fine that others get to have those things.
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Old 6th June 2019, 09:02 PM   #60
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A friend of mine wrote this on Facebook today. I thought I'd share it (with permission).
Your friend has a way with words. Great stuff, he really nailed it there.
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Your friend has a way with words. Great stuff, he really nailed it there.
He sure does. At other times he stands on street corners with a sign that reads "You Are Awesome".
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
He sure does. At other times he stands on street corners with a sign that reads "You Are Awesome".
Sounds good to me. There are many worse things to do with your life than trying to give people a good day.
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No. Pointing and laughing would be better.

There's also a lot to be said for a Sousaphone.
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I love when bigots project their bigotry on others by default
It never surprises me anymore when a white person feels safe enough to share their transparently racist thoughts and jokes with me just because I'm also white and there's no minorities around.
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
There's also a lot to be said for a Sousaphone.
Haha, womp womp...

Awesome how members on here think we have to take these guys seriously. bUt MuH fReEZe PeAcH! Hurr durr.
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It never surprises me anymore when a white person feels safe enough to share their transparently racist thoughts and jokes with me just because I'm also white and there's no minorities around.
Yeah, I have this happening with close relatives, and I live in a country that is mostly white.

No war but class war.
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Was reading about this a couple of days ago.

Kind of a who cares thing really

Some group of people will get offended and protest though, as is the way of things
Whoooosh
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This utterly nails it.
https://twitter.com/evaandheriud/sta...436508673?s=21
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Was reading about this a couple of days ago.

Kind of a who cares thing really

Some group of people will get offended and protest though, as is the way of things
Edited by zooterkin:  <SNIP>
Edited for rule 0 and rule 12.
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The irony is that the "Straight Pride Parade" is going to be the gayest parade ever.

It is going to be all manly men enjoying the company of other manly men. It's gonna be sooo gay.

I mean, nothing wrong with that, but holy crap the irony of it all.
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
I liked this guy's take as well: https://twitter.com/dylanmarron/stat...87878970363906
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Originally Posted by Lambchops View Post
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It is a group of idiots organising a stupide pointless parade

Last time I checked if you get a permit any one can do it

As is proved by all the other stupid pointless parades like the pride one
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I am fond of sarcasm.
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
It is a group of idiots organising a stupide pointless parade

Last time I checked if you get a permit any one can do it

As is proved by all the other stupid pointless parades like the pride one
What makes this parade pointless?
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The reason for Pride demonstrations is to throw the idea that one should be ashamed because of immutable characteristics out.

When it comes to being straight, I don't even know of a slur. if there is one, it hasn't reached my ears. There's no point to any kind of "Straight Pride" rally, because people don't even think of being ashamed of being straight.

As I said, the organizer for this stunt is a Nazi wannabe, he'll get the required response, as seen fit. But don't pretend that this is even a reply to LGBT Pride parades, as many issues as they may have.
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The reason for Pride demonstrations is to throw the idea that one should be ashamed because of immutable characteristics out.

When it comes to being straight, I don't even know of a slur. if there is one, it hasn't reached my ears. There's no point to any kind of "Straight Pride" rally, because people don't even think of being ashamed of being straight.

As I said, the organizer for this stunt is a Nazi wannabe, he'll get the required response, as seen fit. But don't pretend that this is even a reply to LGBT Pride parades, as many issues as they may have.
Just more reactionarianism. People who miss calling a spade a spade and a homosexual a poofter.
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What makes this parade pointless?
Same as all the other pointless ones.

It is a meaningless walk down the road that changes nothing.

Look at the pride one. It has hardly done anything to stop gay people getting beat up.

The only difference with this one is it seems mostly to wind up the lefty easily triggered and is slightly more pointless than the pride one.

Edit: Should have said prejudiced against as well as beat up
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Same as all the other pointless ones.

It is a meaningless walk down the road that changes nothing.

Look at the pride one. It has hardly done anything to stop gay people getting beat up.

The only difference with this one is it seems mostly to wind up the lefty easily triggered and is slightly more pointless than the pride one.

Edit: Should have said prejudiced against as well as beat up
Don't ever say that to my friends who were in the first Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras in 1978.
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Old 6th June 2019, 11:43 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Same as all the other pointless ones.

It is a meaningless walk down the road that changes nothing.

Look at the pride one. It has hardly done anything to stop gay people getting beat up.

The only difference with this one is it seems mostly to wind up the lefty easily triggered and is slightly more pointless than the pride one.

Edit: Should have said prejudiced against as well as beat up
There is a canyon of worldviews between us. Can you imagine what it might have been like growing up a gay man in the 70s and 80s? To help you a bit, think back to the names you used to call other kids at school like poofter and faggot. Think of the ways in which homosexuals and same sex relationships were portrayed in popular culture. Was it one of normalcy and acceptance? Imagine you are a young man experiencing same sex attraction in this environment. If you can manage this with a better attitude than thinking they need to just deal with it, you are making progress.

It was in this environment that the first gay pride marches occurred. Can you imagine the sentiments that drove these people and the courage it took to participate? If you do, then you have an idea what self absorbed ignorant **** heads the people who think a heterosexual pride march is a good idea are. A lefty wind up indeed.
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Old 6th June 2019, 11:47 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Don't ever say that to my friends who were in the first Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras in 1978.
TBF

The Sydney one is an exception as it actually seemed to do something.

The place is probably (arguably) now the most lgbt friendly place around
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