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Old 21st July 2019, 12:23 PM   #1961
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Originally Posted by Arcade22 View Post
Exactly. In America the President would've called the local jail and order them to release the suspect immediately because their arrest has caused an international incident that might jeopardize the nations interests.

Frighteningly enough, I don't find anything wrong with your statement.

Well, besides the "calling the local jail" and "ordering to release suspect immediately" bits, because Trump doesn't have the balls to stand up to somebody foreign who has authority.

The international incident and jeopardy parts will just be normal Trump fallout.
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Old 21st July 2019, 12:35 PM   #1962
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

I will help Angel Mom (and great woman) Mary Ann Mendoza with Twitter. I know Mary Ann from the beginning, and she should never be silenced. She is a winner who has lost so much, her child. Twitter, if you’re watching, please do what you have to do, NOW! @foxandfriends
"I will help with Twitter"? "Twitter... do what you have to do"?

WTF?

[Looks up Angel Mom]

Trump's one brown friend and close-enough to a gold star mother, he's really making points on this one. Do you supposed Trump has given one dime to her fund?
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Old 21st July 2019, 01:19 PM   #1963
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
That's how I read it. An insult and a bit of projection about people being stupid.

Yep, and a lame grade school insult at that. 'You're so dumb you need to read the directions on toilet paper'.

I'm still waiting for Trump to ask one of the Democratic candidates or the "squad". "What were you eating under there?".
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Old 21st July 2019, 01:24 PM   #1964
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Classic President Trump.

He didn’t offer to put up money for his bail, he offered to vouch for his bail.
Yep Classic President Trump, offer to "to vouch for" something they don't even have (according to Arcade22).
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Old 21st July 2019, 01:36 PM   #1965
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Just reading Trump's tweets is enough to convince anyone with more than half a brain cell that something just isn't right with that man. I've seen more mature behavior and intelligence from middle schoolers. Hell, grade schoolers! I'm ashamed to call him the POTUS and disgusted with those who support him. Far from other world leaders 'praising' him as he claims, I'd bet that, behind closed doors, they call him an idiot and laugh at him.
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Old 21st July 2019, 01:39 PM   #1966
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Congratulations to Bibi @Netanyahu on becoming the longest serving PM in the history of Israel. Under your leadership, Israel has become a technology powerhouse and a world class economy....

....Most importantly you have led Israel with a commitment to the values of democracy, freedom, and equal opportunity that both our nations cherish and share!
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Old 21st July 2019, 01:43 PM   #1967
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Between rounds of golf, tweeting, watching FOX and rallies, I'm surprised Trump has time to attend to matters of the presidency. Oh....wait....
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Old 21st July 2019, 01:47 PM   #1968
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Congratulations to Bibi @Netanyahu on becoming the longest serving PM in the history of Israel. Under your leadership, Israel has become a technology powerhouse and a world class economy....

....Most importantly you have led Israel with a commitment to the values of democracy, freedom, and equal opportunity that both our nations cherish and share!
Indeed! Both countries have exactly zero values of democracy, freedom, and equal opportunity under their current leadership.

Also, Donny is bigging up Bibi (notice Trump used the nickname?) in a desperate attempt to remain "friends". Meanwhile, Bibi is having political troubles of his own, and probably doesn't want his "big dumb friend" sticking his beak in just right now.
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Old 21st July 2019, 05:50 PM   #1969
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Between rounds of golf, tweeting, watching FOX and rallies, I'm surprised Trump has time to attend to matters of the presidency. Oh....wait....
The world is better off when he doesn't attend to his duties. The only thing worse than a detached Trump is when the stupid bitch tries to govern.
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Old 21st July 2019, 05:51 PM   #1970
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
The President of the USA helping people through Twitter. Black mirror never saw this coming.
I'm sorry she lost her son. However, that's no excuse for defining his memory by becoming MAGAscum.
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Old 21st July 2019, 06:54 PM   #1971
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Well, I was off visiting family, so... little roundup time.

Originally Posted by Craig4 View Post
What a lying sack of ****.
I chose Craig4's post arbitrarily for brevity. Here's Pence's take on it... with a little pointing out of the obvious. Spineless coward is a kind way to put it.

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Ah, yes, Superman. An illegal immigrant himself.
American Hero! Sent on a journey to America all alone as a baby by parents who wanted their child to survive a tragedy. Just think, if he was sent here now, he would probably be extremely traumatized and end up destroying the US and likely the world, either actively or simply by stepping back and laughing as all those villains did their thing.

Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
That's the most awesome thing I've see all week!
Pay a bit more attention to Fox and you'll see a lot of similar instances of total lies as headlines and contents. Fox is a Republican propaganda outlet, after all.

Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
Not accurate though. That last sentence makes no sense
It makes perfect sense, because that was quite clearly exactly what was meant by it.

Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
It's not hate for the "brown people", or racism or evangelicals that got Trump elected,
Correction. It's not "just" those things. There were a LOT of factors, mostly deeply problematic and extremely outrage worthy, that played into Trump getting both the Republican nomination and winning the Presidency. That we don't see Republicans getting outraged at them, though, makes it pretty obvious that either they're remarkably ignorant or their outrage at a whole bunch of other things is fake or, to be more exact, little more than a trained reaction to Republican propagandists directing them to get outraged at something, without regard to whatever facade of principles the propagandist invokes on that particular occasion.

Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
it is liberal progressives shoving their ideals down peoples throats for the past few decades. People have had enough of this crap.
Historical revisionism is just about always ugly, and even moreso when the people are trying to re-envision recent history through a lens comprised of so many brazen propaganda lies that it's mind-boggling.

Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
Actually y'all could have won had you not run Hillary. But now? Your hate is out in full force. The crying, the accusations and fingerpointing, it's not going to work. You are doing it wrong. This forum is the same way.
Here are a couple more insightful posts than yours.

Of those, well... yes, crying, accusations, and fingerpointing generally aren't going to make blind supporters of Trump support him less or less blindly. Chances are actually unfortunately significant that Trump will get even more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, like in previous cases where Republicans put forward brazenly racist white supremacists like David Duke, as noted in that first link. On the other hand, by pointing out the ugly actual truth constantly, the more numerous and less engaged Democrats will be more likely to actually participate and the independents, too, will end up favoring the much less objectionable Democrat. Much like in 2018, "doing it wrong" in the "kindly" offered opinions of Republicans ended up with a pretty overwhelming victory for Democrats.

In random news...

Dem cities in Florida just figured out how to beat governor's voter suppression

To some extent, at least. They're converting a number of the fees for a bunch of people to community service. Any restitution owed to victims remains untouched, though, of course. Either way, good for the Democrats.

Gretna, La. Police Officer Posts that AOC "needs a round" after being Angered by Fake News Report.

Short version? Officer is enraged by an article that even has "Satire" written in its picture, declares that AOC should be shot. His superior declares that it was deeply concerning that he did that, but that he'll be doing his best to keep punishment as an "internal" affair.

The alt-right has a plan to win 2020, and it involves YOU—so listen up

Short version? Republicans are doing their best to sow discord and dissention while poisoning the waters all around.

Next up, the Governor of Puerto Rico is being called upon to resign by... a truly remarkable number of Puerto Ricans. There are apparently nearly as many publicly protesting as voted him into office in the first place.
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Old 21st July 2019, 07:34 PM   #1972
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That picture of Pence looks like he's staring at God, himself.

Or maybe it's a sex thing. Can't rule that out.
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Old 21st July 2019, 08:07 PM   #1973
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Trump is badly in need of Sarah Sanders. He is simplifying the message, and afew on the staff are helping: Democrats are far left fanatics that hate our country. It's obvious, they want to add socialist benefits such as healthcare. Some of them are more or less foreigners. Even if they were born here. But they should go away. And if we don't vote for Trump, the country will go to ruin. Because he has done a fantastic job erasing Obama. But needs more time.

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Old 21st July 2019, 10:32 PM   #1974
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Obama was a thin-skinned narcissist unfit for the job. Trump is a master communicator who can rebrand the Squad as the face of the Democrat party with just a handful of racist tweets.
That's comedy gold! You are a funny guy (and I really do mean that). Do you believe the earth is flat too? that would really make my day.. lol
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Old 21st July 2019, 10:33 PM   #1975
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By the way, Trump tweets about the 4 congresswonen had a purpose. He wished to provoke them to respond. The responses were collected and manipulated into TV ads:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...et-republicans
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Old 21st July 2019, 10:37 PM   #1976
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By the way, Trump tweets about the 4 congresswonen had a purpose. He wished to provoke them to respond. The responses were collected and manipulated into TV ads:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...et-republicans
And the news media eats it up, money over country, money over democracy.
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Old 21st July 2019, 10:47 PM   #1977
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Trump correctly identified the Squad as the most media-visible part of the Democratic Party, which he considers the most dangerous, since TV ratings is the only way he measures success.
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Old 21st July 2019, 11:07 PM   #1978
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That's comedy gold! You are a funny guy (and I really do mean that). Do you believe the earth is flat too? that would really make my day.. lol
Cain has a pre-Trump Stephen Colbert kind of thing going on.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 01:04 AM   #1979
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Trump correctly identified the Squad as the most media-visible part of the Democratic Party, which he considers the most dangerous, since TV ratings is the only way he measures success.
It's more than that, of course. "Democratic Socialism" includes the word "socialism" which makes for an easy point of attack from the many decades of mudslinging at "socialism." Trump is, well, not that smart and is very happy to go with the easy smears. Also, the ideology they push - fairly effectively, too - is one that threatens the goals of super rich wannabe oligarchs and which the wannabe oligarchs largely and increasingly managed to suppress for a couple decades now via a variety of dirty schemes - including a number of schemes that have pretty well put the Republican Party politicians in a position where they're in the pockets of the super rich or out of a job.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 01:58 AM   #1980
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Senator Chuck Schumer has finally gone to the Southern Border with some Democrat Senators. This is a GREAT thing! Nearby, he missed a large group of Illegal Immigrants trying to enter the USA illegally. They wildly rushed Border Patrol. Some Agents were badly injured....

....Based on the comments made by Senator Schumer, he must have seen how dangerous & bad for our Country the Border is. It is not a “manufactured crisis,” as the Fake News Media & their Democrat partners tried to portray. He said he wants to meet. I will set up a meeting ASAP!
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Old 22nd July 2019, 03:31 AM   #1981
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What they're telling you is happening is not what's really happening.
Nonsense, this involves the idea that is not longer politically relevant of objective reality. We are in a post modern political age and Trump is the first Post Modern political president. Videos and recordings are now no more fact than what he says and people choose which they want.
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I will help Angel Mom (and great woman) Mary Ann Mendoza with Twitter. I know Mary Ann from the beginning, and she should never be silenced. She is a winner who has lost so much, her child. Twitter, if you’re watching, please do what you have to do, NOW! @foxandfriends

Somewhat curious about the circumstances surrounding this suspension from Twitter, I read a number of articles on the subject from sources of varying ideological alignment, and learned that Mrs. Mendoza's core defense is not unlike the inveterate speeder who complains that after having broken the speed limit for so many years without being busted for it, it seems very unfair that someone should ticket her for doing it now.
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
"I will help with Twitter"? "Twitter... do what you have to do"?

WTF?

[Looks up Angel Mom]

Trump's one brown friend and close-enough to a gold star mother, he's really making points on this one. Do you supposed Trump has given one dime to her fund?


I had to look it up myself, and found that although it originally was a more general expression which described mothers (and families) who had had a child die, it has since devolved into an organization for families who have had a child die due to some action by an illegal alien.

I guess they were concerned that some mother would sully the title by claiming that a cop gunning down her unarmed and innocent child qualified her to be a grieving "Angel Mom" mother as well.
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Frighteningly enough, I don't find anything wrong with your statement.

Well, besides the "calling the local jail" and "ordering to release suspect immediately" bits, because Trump doesn't have the balls to stand up to somebody foreign who has authority.

The international incident and jeopardy parts will just be normal Trump fallout.
Note that such a thing actually happened in Italy. Silvio Berlusconi, then prime minister, personally called a police station and pressured them to release the relative of the Egyptian president who had been caught shoplifting, because her arrest was causing a diplomatic incident. Except that it turns out that she wasn't the relative of any president, rather she was his 17 year old "call girl".
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Note that such a thing actually happened in Italy. Silvio Berlusconi, then prime minister, personally called a police station and pressured them to release the relative of the Egyptian president who had been caught shoplifting, because her arrest was causing a diplomatic incident. Except that it turns out that she wasn't the relative of any president, rather she was his 17 year old "call girl".
Trump is the American localization of Berlusconi: dumber, fatter, and less sophisticated.
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I'm sorry she lost her son. However, that's no excuse for defining his memory by becoming MAGAscum.
I'm sorry she lost her son, too. But there are limits. This is from a 2018 CNBC news report:
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Trump appears to have first heard 63,000 figure [Americans murdered by illegal aliens since 9/11] in March, at a roundtable discussion on so-called sanctuary cities from Mary Ann Mendoza, an activist who supports Trump’s immigration policies. Mendoza, who identifies herself on Twitter as the “mother of police Sgt Brandon Mendoza killed by a repeat illegal alien criminal,” has voiced the claim at least 12 times since March without citing a source.

Mendoza’s statistic, purporting to demonstrate a shocking level of danger from immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally, grabbed Trump’s attention at the March roundtable. Link
It's been demonstrated to Mendoza that her figure is false. But she keeps using it, badgering various Democratic figures, insisting they "won't do anything" about illegal immigration and that they have "blood on their hands" as a result. Enough is enuff.

The GAO report that Mendoza claims backs up her rhetoric:
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The GAO report does not say, at any point, how many homicides were committed each year by undocumented immigrants. Rather, it estimated the number of “historical arrests” for the population of criminal aliens incarcerated in federal or state penitentiaries or local jails from 2003 to 2010, according to the agency’s public affairs director, Charles Young, in a statement to CNBC.

The arrests themselves “could have occurred between August 1955 and April 2010,” Young said — roughly a 55-year gap. To be sure, the report notes that about 90 percent of the arrests in the study population occurred after 1990....The numbers taken from the study refer only to criminal aliens, and the report does not distinguish between which noncitizens are in the country legally or illegally when the crimes are committed.
When asked by CNBC to comment Mendoza doubled down. Literally!
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Mendoza told CNBC...that she was “being very conservative” in her claim of 63,000 Americans killed, and suggested that the number is more likely twice as large at 125,000.
She's definitely a hater.
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And the news media eats it up, money over country, money over democracy.
Of course. It has been decided, after all, that money is speech.

We've moved closer and closer to a Plutocracy; de facto if not de jure.
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resident Donald Trump's senior adviser Stephen Miller argued Sunday that the president's previous criticisms of former President Barack Obama's administration were done "out of love" for the United States, while also claiming that criticism for the current White House coming from progressive Democratic congresswomen is "anti-American."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-advis...erican-1450372
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With almost no inflation, our Country is needlessly being forced to pay a MUCH higher interest rate than other countries only because of a very misguided Federal Reserve. In addition, Quantitative Tightening is continuing, making it harder for our Country to compete. As good.....

....as we have done, it could have been soooo much better. Interest rate costs should have been much lower, & GDP & our Country’s wealth accumulation much higher. Such a waste of time & money. Also, very unfair that other countries manipulate their currencies and pump money in!

It is far more costly for the Federal Reserve to cut deeper if the economy actually does, in the future, turn down! Very inexpensive, in fact productive, to move now. The Fed raised & tightened far too much & too fast. In other words, they missed it (Big!). Don’t miss it again!

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The Report of Iran capturing CIA spies is totally false. Zero truth. Just more lies and propaganda (like their shot down drone) put out by a Religious Regime that is Badly Failing and has no idea what to do. Their Economy is dead, and will get much worse. Iran is a total mess!
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Anyone have any bets on if the house will send the Sargent at Arms to round up those administration officials who are refusing to comply? That is of course a specific part of the job after all, though not often used of late.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 08:00 AM   #1992
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The Mainstream Media is out of control. They constantly lie and cheat in order to get their Radical Left Democrat views out their for all to see. It has never been this bad. They have gone bonkers, & no longer care what is right or wrong. This large scale false reporting is sick!

Fake News Equals the Enemy of the People!
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Old 22nd July 2019, 08:36 AM   #1993
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I know that the not-not-Trump side of this Forum isn't large, but does anyone actually believe Trump's tweets?
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Old 22nd July 2019, 08:39 AM   #1994
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

The Mainstream Media is out of control. They constantly lie and cheat in order to get their Radical Left Democrat views out their for all to see. It has never been this bad. They have gone bonkers, & no longer care what is right or wrong. This large scale false reporting is sick!

Fake News Equals the Enemy of the People!
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Old 22nd July 2019, 08:41 AM   #1995
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I do like the cute way he thinks that the mainstream media in the US is 'radical left'.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 08:44 AM   #1996
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Well, I was off visiting family, so... little roundup time.

I chose Craig4's post arbitrarily for brevity. Here's Pence's take on it... with a little pointing out of the obvious. Spineless coward is a kind way to put
The article mentions Dante’s Circles of Hell.
The 14th Century poet asserted that people who betray the public trust go to the Ninth Circle of Hell.
And that ninth out of nine; so that’s pretty bad.

ETA
Now that I think of it, the lowest level is also reserved for people who betray God. So Vice President Pence will be a twofer.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 09:03 AM   #1997
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resident Donald Trump's senior adviser Stephen Miller argued Sunday that the president's previous criticisms of former President Barack Obama's administration were done "out of love" for the United States, while also claiming that criticism for the current White House coming from progressive Democratic congresswomen is "anti-American."

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-advis...erican-1450372

That sounds familiar. Oh yeah. From 2001-2008, criticizing President George W. Bush was disloyal and tantamount to treason. From 2009-2016, criticizing President Obama was the patriotic duty of every loyal American.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 09:30 AM   #1998
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

The Mainstream Media is out of control. They constantly lie and cheat in order to get their Radical Left Democrat views out their for all to see. It has never been this bad. They have gone bonkers, & no longer care what is right or wrong. This large scale false reporting is sick!

Fake News Equals the Enemy of the People!
Very ironical, this. Coming from a compulsory liar.

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Old 22nd July 2019, 10:17 AM   #1999
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I know that the not-not-Trump side of this Forum isn't large, but does anyone actually believe Trump's tweets?
At this point, if Trump said the sun was shining and it was the middle of the day, I would not believe him without independent verification.
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Old 22nd July 2019, 10:22 AM   #2000
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I know that the not-not-Trump side of this Forum isn't large, but does anyone actually believe Trump's tweets?
Here's the thing. At the rate Trump just spouts off random nonsense he should be right more often then he is just on random chance.

Like his score would literally go up 20-30% if he literally was lying.

Because when people lie all the time but are also stupid, they tend to accidentally say things which are true. Trumps not doing that.

Like there's an... joke or one liner or trope or whatever about how if you go into a T/F exam and get a zero, that's statistically like getting a 100 because if you went in and really just didn't know anything and randomly guessed you'd probably get around 50 and Trump's almost at a real world version of that level.
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