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Old 19th July 2019, 08:27 AM   #1161
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Originally Posted by luchog View Post
It's been well-known for a long time that police department have had a problem with street gangs (starting mainly with white biker gangs) infiltrating police departments. They started with sending their female associates to get hired on as clerical workers and provide intel on police activity; and have since graduated to sending their younger members to police academies to become officers. There's a huge problem with gang presence in large PDs in particular.


I thought Sons of Anarchy was fiction, not documentary!
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Old 19th July 2019, 04:37 PM   #1162
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post


I thought Sons of Anarchy was fiction, not documentary!

Art imitating life. And gangs in the military have long been a known problem.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...816-story.html
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...aw-enforcement
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-a...09-p4yzs5.html
https://info.publicintelligence.net/...filtration.pdf

Of course, it's not just a problem in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...criminal-gangs
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...e-line-of-duty
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Old 22nd July 2019, 02:28 PM   #1163
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Interesting article I found today.

https://phys.org/news/2019-07-white-...inorities.html

A few tidbits from the article, but no link to the actual paper:

""We found that the race of the officer doesn't matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot," Cesario said. "If anything, black officers are more likely to shoot black citizens, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens in a community, the more black police officers there are."

The data show that it's not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that's good news. The bad news, Cesario said, are that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings.

"Many people ask whether black or white citizens are more likely to be shot and why. We found that crime rates are the driving force behind fatal shootings," Cesario said. "Our data show that the rate of crime by each racial group predicts the likelihood of citizens from that racial group being shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of white people committing crimes, white people are more likely to be shot. If you live in a county that has a lot of black people committing crimes, black people are more likely to be shot. It is the best predictor we have of fatal police shootings.""

Followed by this disturbing tidbit:

"One thing that was surprising to the researchers, Cesario said, were the number of mental health cases that resulted in fatal officer shootings.

"It was truly striking and we didn't recognize just how many there were," he said. "This shows how underappreciated mental health is in the national discussion of fatal officer shootings."

Nearly 50% of all fatal shootings involving white civilians were because of mental health; it also accounted for nearly 20% of black civilians and 30% of Hispanics. These included two types of mental health cases: the first was "suicide by cop," in which civilians intentionally antagonize the police because they want an officer to kill themselves; the second was a result of mental disorders, such as when a civilian is suffering from schizophrenia and poses a threat to officers."
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Old 22nd July 2019, 03:10 PM   #1164
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Originally Posted by Crawtator View Post
Interesting article I found today.

https://phys.org/news/2019-07-white-...inorities.html

Not having access to the actual numbers, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt for the moment, given that it contradicts several other recently-published studies that show significant, sometimes egregious, racially-biased differentials in policing.

There's also the problem of reporting, with smaller police departments -- the types where race has a significantly higher influence on policing -- are hugely unrepresented in reporting of shootings and other uses-of-force statistics; and there is no uniform reporting or requirement for reporting.

As for black officers being just as likely to shoot black suspects, that's really not that surprising, given the well-known effects of tokenism in policing.

That said, it's been well-known for a long time that a large part of the reason for unjustified shootings, and refusal of government agencies to prosecute said shootings, is due to a "shoot fast, shoot first" culture of violence, and bunker mentality in American police departments.
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Old 28th July 2019, 09:33 PM   #1165
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St. Louis DA finds police and prosecutors invented evidence, paid witness to win murder conviction

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The state's theory stretched the physical limits of the human body. Somehow, on the night of Oct. 30, 1994, Lamar Johnson left his friend's apartment, traveled three miles to Marcus Boyd's front porch with one other man, killed Boyd, fled on foot and arrived back at the apartment to continue socializing with friends - all in "no more than five minutes."

Now the St. Louis Circuit Attorney's Office says it knows how prosecutors managed to convince a jury it was true: Police and prosecutors made up the evidence, according to a 67-page motion seeking to vacate Johnson's first-degree murder conviction and grant him a new trial after 24 years behind bars.

The accompanying investigative report, made public this week, describes a staggering amount of misconduct on the part of homicide detectives and prosecutors that convicted Johnson and sent him to prison for life with no possibility of parole.

Not only did detectives write police reports containing invented statements from witnesses, the report found, but the St. Louis Circuit Attorney's Office also made secret payments to the single eyewitness, who was pressured into making the false identification that would ultimately seal Johnson's fate, according to the report.

And authorities did all of this, investigators found, in the face of "overwhelming" evidence that Johnson was an innocent man. He has insisted on his innocence the entire time he has been behind bars.

"The violation of Johnson's constitutional rights enabled the State of Missouri to obtain a conviction and sentence of life without the possibility of parole against Johnson despite overwhelming evidence of innocence," the circuit attorney's office wrote. "The undisclosed secret payments to the sole eyewitness in a case that was undeniably thin fatally undermines the reliability of the verdict."
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The men actually responsible for killing Boyd in a botched robbery would reveal themselves much sooner. They confessed as early as 1996 and 2002, saying in sworn affidavits that Johnson was not involved. Johnson continued to languish in prison anyway.
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Old 28th July 2019, 09:45 PM   #1166
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And capital punishment is apparently a good idea
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Old 28th July 2019, 10:29 PM   #1167
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Originally Posted by jimbob View Post
And capital punishment is apparently a good idea
Oh, come on. That case was 25 years ago. It's not like it could possibly happen today.

Just kidding. There is no doubt in my mind that this is happening to someone right now.
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Old 28th July 2019, 11:12 PM   #1168
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And capital punishment is apparently a good idea
The older I get, the less confidence I have in the criminal justice system.

It is necessary to have one of course, but it's troubling how often it gets it wrong, and how many innocent people have been sent to prison due to being framed by police and prosecutors, or by false confessions.
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Old 6th August 2019, 09:27 AM   #1169
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Texas police have apologised after an image of two white officers on horseback leading a handcuffed black man by a rope caused an outcry online.

Galveston Police Chief Vernon Hale said on Monday the technique was acceptable in some scenarios, but that "officers showed poor judgment in this instance".

He said there was no "malicious intent" and has changed department policy to "prevent the use of this technique".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49253691
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Old 6th August 2019, 09:32 AM   #1170
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Texas police have apologised after an image of two white officers on horseback leading a handcuffed black man by a rope caused an outcry online.

Galveston Police Chief Vernon Hale said on Monday the technique was acceptable in some scenarios, but that "officers showed poor judgment in this instance".

He said there was no "malicious intent" and has changed department policy to "prevent the use of this technique".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49253691
No malicious intent? It was all in fun, then?
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Old 6th August 2019, 12:51 PM   #1171
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
No malicious intent? It was all in fun, then?

I'm sure there are plenty of pics of the Galveston cops treating whites the same way for such heinous crimes as trespassing.

We should be seeing them surfacing all over the web any time now.

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Old 6th August 2019, 12:55 PM   #1172
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
I'm sure there are plenty of pics of the Galveston cops treating whites the same way for such heinous crimes as trespassing.



We should be seeing them surfacing all over the web any time now.



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You forgot to add in "mentally ill", apparently until the change prompted by this occurance this was an appropriate way to transport a mentally ill citizen.
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Old 6th August 2019, 10:29 PM   #1173
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This one's more sad than ourtrageous: Texas police: Rookie officer shoots at dog, kills woman [CTV news]

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ARLINGTON, Texas -- A rookie Texas police officer accidentally shot and killed a woman behind a shopping plaza when he fired repeatedly at a dog believed to be hers that was running at him, authorities said Friday.
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Old 7th August 2019, 09:24 AM   #1174
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It is amazing how delivery drivers have been able to survive all these years without a gun to protect them from murderous dogs.
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Old 7th August 2019, 09:43 AM   #1175
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The behaviour of Norwegian police officers

Same problem here. For the fifth time in seventeen years, Norwegian police shoots someone to death. Link to article in Norwegian
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Old 9th August 2019, 07:59 AM   #1176
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Why do so many on this forum keep on defending the behaviour of their police and how they are policed?
INDOCTRINATION, FEAR MONGERING, PROPAGANDA. All done here
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*some US police officers.
Those who look away and the unions who protect them are no better.
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Old 9th August 2019, 08:51 AM   #1178
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It is amazing how delivery drivers have been able to survive all these years without a gun to protect them from murderous dogs.
And postmen. I believe they carry pepper spray. As do cops.
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Old 9th August 2019, 09:34 AM   #1179
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Still boggles the mind that American Corporatists (don’t want to make them all triggered by simplifying that to Fascist) support the person who has suggested total government control, without any judge or doctor being involved, of a person’s right to own a gun.

Has any “liberal” ever even suggested such a thing?
every single one of them.
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That is appalling.
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Copied over to the Epstein suicide conspiracy thread.
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Yea as is seen by the lack of repercussions those were widely regarded as acceptable behavior by the staff.
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That is appalling.
On a similar thread on Badscience, someone wrote the following:

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Eta for those into conspiracies and **** going down in US prisons, google 'Whitey Bulger'.
So I did. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_Bulger#Death

Spoilered for grimmness

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Bulger was transferred from the Federal Transfer Center in Oklahoma City to United States Penitentiary, Hazelton, in West Virginia on October 29, 2018.[20][94] At 8:20 a.m. on October 30, the 89-year-old Bulger[95] was found unresponsive in the prison. Bulger was in a wheelchair and had been beaten to death by multiple inmates armed with a sock-wrapped padlock and a shiv. His eyes had nearly been gouged out and his tongue almost cut off.[96][97][98] This was the third homicide at the prison in a 40-day span.[99] Correctional officers had warned Congress just days before the most recent Hazelton death that facilities were being dangerously understaffed.[97] Massachusetts-based mafia hitman Fotios "Freddy" Geas is the primary suspect in orchestrating the killing of Bulger and he has not disputed his role.[96][100][101] Geas, 51, and his brother were sentenced to life in prison in 2011 for their roles in several violent crimes, including the 2003 killing of Adolfo "Big Al" Bruno, a Genovese crime family boss who was shot in a Springfield, Massachusetts, parking lot.[102]


"This was the third homicide at the prison in a 40-day span."
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Handcuffing a 7 year old for crying when bullied is a reasonable action for a police officer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib.../#3010b875a4d3
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Handcuffing a 7 year old for crying when bullied is a reasonable action for a police officer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib.../#3010b875a4d3
Police officers stationed in schools are being used to commit violence against children for which a school employee without a badge would be fired. To call it troubling would be an understatement.
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Handcuffing a 7 year old for crying when bullied is a reasonable action for a police officer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksib.../#3010b875a4d3

The kid got off easy, probably because of his youth.

If he had been in 4th grade he probably would have been tased. Before or after he was handcuffed.

If he had been in 6th grade then he could just as easily have been shot.

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Police officers stationed in schools are being used to commit violence against children for which a school employee without a badge would be fired. To call it troubling would be an understatement.
Schools taking advantage of the impunity of police discretion. Teachers and administrators know that their actions dealing with student conflict will be heavily scrutinized. It's much safer to just kick all these problems over to in-school police, because then it's not their problem.

Once the cops get involved, it's a law enforcement matter and there will be no questioning of such sacrosanct authority.

And that's how a 7 year old having a meltdown becomes a criminal matter. Cowardly administrators coupled with a police state makes for a unique type of hell.
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Cleveland cop urinated on 12-year-old girl waiting for school bus while recording on cellphone, prosecutors say

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At least he has been fired and is being prosecuted.
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Ran across this earlier today.

[size="2"]The case of the missing tattoos: Altered photo lineup by Portland police draws objection[/SIZE

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Since the witnesses at a series of four different bank robberies had not reported any facial tattoos on the perp, the cops decided that the thing to do was to digitally remove the tattoos on the face of the guy they had picked out as a suspect before they showed those witnesses his picture in a photo line-up.
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That's vile but it looks like he wasn't acting in the execution of his duties which is more in keeping with the theme of this thread (I think).
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Ran across this earlier today.

[size="2"]The case of the missing tattoos: Altered photo lineup by Portland police draws objection[/SIZE

tl;dr version

Since the witnesses at a series of four different bank robberies had not reported any facial tattoos on the perp, the cops decided that the thing to do was to digitally remove the tattoos on the face of the guy they had picked out as a suspect before they showed those witnesses his picture in a photo line-up.
That photo looks like it was edited in MS Paint, and they did more than just remove/obscure the tattoos. If that security still is an accurate representation of the robber as he appeared to the witnesses, I don't see how anyone could pick that altered photo without being coached.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 12:29 AM   #1193
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Originally Posted by Babbylonian View Post
That photo looks like it was edited in MS Paint, and they did more than just remove/obscure the tattoos. If that security still is an accurate representation of the robber as he appeared to the witnesses, I don't see how anyone could pick that altered photo without being coached.
It was edited in Photoshop as forensic criminalist Mark Weber testified in court. Clearly there is not thought to be an issue with this practice.

What a bizarre thought process!
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Old 22nd August 2019, 12:38 PM   #1194
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Originally Posted by bluesjnr View Post
It was edited in Photoshop as forensic criminalist Mark Weber testified in court. Clearly there is not thought to be an issue with this practice.

What a bizarre thought process!
I understand that it was edited in Photoshop. What I'm suggesting is that it was clearly edited by someone who doesn't even come up to 4chan meme standards of competence.

Regardless, yeah, the idea that putting a doctored photo in a police photo lineup is insane.
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Old 22nd August 2019, 07:56 PM   #1195
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Originally Posted by Babbylonian View Post
I understand that it was edited in Photoshop. What I'm suggesting is that it was clearly edited by someone who doesn't even come up to 4chan meme standards of competence.
Sorry, I didn't get that!

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Regardless, yeah, the idea that putting a doctored photo in a police photo lineup is insane.
At least a borderline amount of this, mixed with stupidity seems to be a minimum job requirement.
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Old 23rd August 2019, 10:33 AM   #1196
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Florida prison guard breaks neck of 51 year old woman for inadequately cleaning a toilet.

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Old 26th August 2019, 12:30 AM   #1197
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Court Suspends 2 Prosecutors' Law Licenses for Covering up Brutal Police Beating

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The Missouri Supreme Court unanimously suspended the law licenses of two prosecutors in St. Louis on Tuesday for covering for a detective who beat a handcuffed suspect, jamming a gun in his mouth and beating him with a chair in 2014.

The law licenses of Katherine Anne Dierdorf and Ambry Nichole Schuessler were suspended for their dishonesty and concealment of an assault by St. Louis detective Thomas A. Carroll.

Carroll was later sentenced to 52 months in federal prison for the beating of 41-year-old Michael Waller, who was handcuffed.
Worth reading or at least skimming the whole thing.

Basically, they tried to cover up the detective's crimes (which they were fully aware of because the detective told them himself, corroborating the victim) and falsely charged the victim with trying to flee, in order to explain his injuries.
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Old 26th August 2019, 01:56 AM   #1198
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Ran across this earlier today.

[size="2"]The case of the missing tattoos: Altered photo lineup by Portland police draws objection[/SIZE

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Since the witnesses at a series of four different bank robberies had not reported any facial tattoos on the perp, the cops decided that the thing to do was to digitally remove the tattoos on the face of the guy they had picked out as a suspect before they showed those witnesses his picture in a photo line-up.
I witnessed an assault and was asked to attend a video line up. The person I saw had a distinctive scar on his face. The video line up was of faces with pixles over the part of the face that was scarred, so it was made impossible to pick out who was the suspect!!!
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Old 26th August 2019, 05:01 AM   #1199
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I witnessed an assault and was asked to attend a video line up. The person I saw had a distinctive scar on his face. The video line up was of faces with pixles over the part of the face that was scarred, so it was made impossible to pick out who was the suspect!!!
Weird. A lawyer could probably explain why.

Like if someone had a distinctive birth mark or tattoo, I wonder if they would cover that too.
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Weird. A lawyer could probably explain why.



Like if someone had a distinctive birth mark or tattoo, I wonder if they would cover that too.
I think that is a result from a cargo cult like understanding of line ups. Line ups are meant to try and ensure that people are presented with several photos/videos/people that match the general description of the proposed perpetrator. So you don't for example when a witness says "It was a white man with red hair" show them a line up of 11 black men and the one white man you have collared for the crime.

If someone has a distinctive scar that the eye witness described in detail then a line up should control for the rest of the description. I wonder if in this case the witness hadn't in fact described the scar but the police believed someone with the scar was the perpetrator?
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