Are Half of Republicans deplorable yet for supporting obstruction of justice?

Well are at least half of republicans deplorable?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 89.1%

  • No

    Votes: 5 10.9%
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ponderingturtle

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Clearly 90% of the republican party support their president obstructing justice and violating election laws. Does this mean at least half of them are deplorable yet?


Well are they?
 
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their continued support is definitely deplorable.
But more than 50% might be nice people if I got to know them.
Nice people behave in some deplorable way all the time.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
their continued support is definitely deplorable.
But more than 50% might be nice people if I got to know them.
Nice people behave in some deplorable way all the time.
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Yea like I mean sure those nice young white men sexually assaulted those women but that is no reason to ruin their lives for a few minutes of harmless fun.

It isn't like being a rapist makes them not perfectly nice people to 99% of the people who they haven't raped.
 
Depends on how you define "republicans".

Congressional Republicans are 100% deplorable, because they have a very clear duty to reign in the executive. Our system is literally based on the idea that the legislature will do so. Their failure is a national disgrace. Of course, some wishy-washy D's fall into this category as well, though they seem more afraid to cause a blow up rather than robustly endorsing executive overreach.

Individual republican voters, not so sure about that. I am reluctant to criticize anyone for making a bad decision in a two party system that produced a Trump-Clinton choice, though I feel the lesser evil was abundantly clear and has only become more clear as time goes on.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Depends on how you define "republicans".

Congressional Republicans are 100% deplorable, because they have a very clear duty to reign in the executive. Our system is literally based on the idea that the legislature will do so. Their failure is a national disgrace. Of course, some wishy-washy D's fall into this category as well, though they seem more afraid to cause a blow up rather than robustly endorsing executive overreach.

Individual republican voters, not so sure about that. I am reluctant to criticize anyone for making a bad decision in a two party system that produced a Trump-Clinton choice, though I feel the lesser evil was abundantly clear and has only become more clear as time goes on.
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Well 90% of the voters support Trump, his antics have not cost him with his base unlike Nixon's saturday night massacre, where he lost half the base.

Voting for him might be a poor judgement but we know how popular he still is with republicans, that says something about republicans. That is why I said Republicans and not Trump Voters
 
ponderingturtle said:
Well 90% of the voters support Trump, his antics have not cost him with his base unlike Nixon's saturday night massacre, where he lost half the base.

Voting for him might be a poor judgement but we know how popular he still is with republicans, that says something about republicans. That is why I said Republicans and not Trump Voters
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Fair enough.

To be honest, I'm not sure how to have a positive opinion who has seen what Trump has done and is still in support. The corruption, the red meat for domestic terrorists, the utter incompetence. Any one of those factors should be enough to realize Trump is unfit.

Even if Trump were to lose in a landslide, I'm not sure what you do with that portion of the electorate.
 
I don't like to call out "Republicans". There are lots (though not enough) Republicans who are still loyal to the nation. I prefer to refer to Trump supporters. You can still be a patriot and be a Republican. You can't be a patriot and support Trump. Trump supporters aren't like us; they aren't real Americans. They don't share American values. They don't value honesty or integrity like a real American does.

To answer the question though, to support Trump is to support treason and I can't think of many things more deplorable than that. At this point, having seen the stupid bitch in action as president, all Trump supporters are deplorable. If they all left to live in Russia the country would be better off. We could get immigrants who would be better Americans than their kind.
 
Yes, the half that weren't already proven deplorable by their amazing tapdance around Trump's racist piggery about The Squad.

I've maintained for some time that the masque is off. If you are still a Trump Supporter after two-and-a-half years of this regime and daily catastrophes, you're a deplorable.

I'd like to remind, though, that not all those people are professed Republicans; many claim to be libertarians or independents. And it was a Republican who said yesterday that Trump ought to consider a plea deal since the Constitution's only penalty for treason is impeachment, while the U.S. Code prescribes the death penalty.

So I answered based on "Trump Supporters" not half of all Republicans. And it's more than half of Trump Supporters, more like "anyone who still supports him".
 
I said yes but there is the problem of the not-deplorable Republicans that have left the Party. Are we counting them or just the Republicans that remain part of Trump's base?

Of course that makes the % of Republican deplorables higher, but if we counted those it might be lower.
 
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Foolmewunz said:
Yes, the half that weren't already proven deplorable by their amazing tapdance around Trump's racist piggery about The Squad.

I've maintained for some time that the masque is off. If you are still a Trump Supporter after two-and-a-half years of this regime and daily catastrophes, you're a deplorable.
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Assuming that's correct, then Hillary underestimated the size of the basket.
 
Craig4 said:
I'm just going to let you work out what you did there.
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I get it you think 90% of republicans is a small percentage of republicans and not at all meaningful compared to 10% of republicans.

Your math is clear 10%>90%.


Throwing out 10% of the countries total population never mind actual voting eligible population is totally irrelevant.
 
Belz... said:
No, that's what we're talking about. Hillary seems to have understimated the size of the basket.
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And yet I am sure we will have people claiming that they hate trump but you can't call people deplorable merely for supporting obstruction of justice and getting rid of the concept of rule of law.
 
ponderingturtle said:
I get it you think 90% of republicans is a small percentage of republicans and not at all meaningful compared to 10% of republicans.

Your math is clear 10%>90%.


Throwing out 10% of the countries total population never mind actual voting eligible population is totally irrelevant.
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No, I figured out that 3.25 million is roughly ten percent of the number of registered Republicans. That's a lot when you consider that Trump won by 88,000 votes in three states and lost by three million votes.
 
ponderingturtle said:
Well 90% of the voters support Trump, his antics have not cost him with his base unlike Nixon's saturday night massacre, where he lost half the base.
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Obviously the GOP base in Nixon's administration was much less deplorable.

Voting for him might be a poor judgement but we know how popular he still is with republicans, that says something about republicans. That is why I said Republicans and not Trump Voters
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Yes. They have become considerably more deplorable over the past few decades.
 
If all you TDS sufferers used the term "smoking gun" for all your next sure thing about Trump, you'd be indistinguishable from truthers. Get a grip.
 
Wolrab said:
If all you TDS sufferers used the term "smoking gun" for all your next sure thing about Trump, you'd be indistinguishable from truthers. Get a grip.
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If his supporters cared about mere felonies that say his lawyer is in prison for now, they wouldn't be deplorable.

I get it this is a travesty of justice like Epstein. He is a rich and powerful man they are supposed to be above all consequences for their actions.
 
Wolrab said:
If all you TDS sufferers used the term "smoking gun" for all your next sure thing about Trump, you'd be indistinguishable from truthers. Get a grip.
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What is your opinion on this latest scandal? Is this yet another witch hunt directed against Trump who has done nothing wrong? Just curious.
 
Stacyhs said:
Ah...a fan of the 'fake news' club.
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Not fake news. News that comes from people who literally cried when Trump won. The same people so in the bag for Hillary that they only broadcast tight shots of the crowds at her rallies to make it look like there were a boatload of supporters there. The same ones that gave Hillary debate questions. The same ones that put the absolute most obvious negative spin on everything good Trump has accomplished and reported so many smoking guns during the failed investigations that turned out to be false.
 
Wolrab said:
Not fake news. News that comes from people who literally cried when Trump won. The same people so in the bag for Hillary that they only broadcast tight shots of the crowds at her rallies to make it look like there were a boatload of supporters there. The same ones that gave Hillary debate questions. The same ones that put the absolute most obvious negative spin on everything good Trump has accomplished and reported so many smoking guns during the failed investigations that turned out to be false.
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Like I said.....
 
ponderingturtle said:
Well 90% of the voters support Trump, his antics have not cost him with his base unlike Nixon's saturday night massacre, where he lost half the base.

Voting for him might be a poor judgement but we know how popular he still is with republicans, that says something about republicans. That is why I said Republicans and not Trump Voters
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Slight correction here. 90% of the remaining hard-core Republican voters selected and surveyed by News Corp. support Trump.

At the total risk of a Godwin, it's a bit like saying 90% of Hitler's immediate entourage supported the Fuhrer even in the last days in the bunker.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Slight correction here. 90% of the remaining hard-core Republican voters selected and surveyed by News Corp. support Trump.

At the total risk of a Godwin, it's a bit like saying 90% of Hitler's immediate entourage supported the Fuhrer even in the last days in the bunker.
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Has any survey found his popularity with republicans faultering? Wolrab shows how clearly the Trump supporters reject all standards of the rule of law.
 
Wolrab said:
What scandal? The latest media driven fantasy?
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Yet more proof Trump supporters aren't loyal to the country. If you don't think withholding tax payer appropriated dollars as leverage for dirt on a political opponent form another country is a scandal, you aren't a patriotic America.
 
Wolrab said:
If all you TDS sufferers used the term "smoking gun" for all your next sure thing about Trump, you'd be indistinguishable from truthers. Get a grip.
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I wouldn't call it a smoking gun. We have the suspect and his admission of the crime on record.

As for the rest, do you not think that the whistleblower scandal is different from the previous ones?
 
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