How will Trump supporters spin this one?

alfaniner said:
I appreciate your taking the time that I was not willing to spend to do these rebuttals .
I just came across a few pertinent Tweets:
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Kasporov, that name takes me WAY back. He's seen a thing or two.
 
Stacyhs said:
Sure. A murderer would be worse. But I don't remember one ever running for president. I'm trying to think of a past president in our lifetime who has behaved in such a sheer egregious manner as Trump. Can't think of one. Can you?
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Trump took out a full-page ad advocating the judicial murder of the Central Park 5.
 
Ziggurat said:
thinks there's "good people" among white supremacists,
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You know that this is based on a lie about what he said, right?
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No, no its not.

Trump's claim is that there were "fine people on both sides" of the conflict.

However, the people that attended the rally were, to a person, racists/neo-nazis/etc. How do we know that? Because:
- The statues themselves were erected to glorify a racist past
- The rally itself was advertised as a 'unite the right' event
- There were plenty of nazi flags at the event, and attendees broke out in racist slogans such as "jews will not replace us". Now, I'm not sure about you, but if I go anywhere and people start breaking out neo-nazi flags and chanting racist slogans, I am not going to stick around. I can't envision anyone dumb enough to show up at the rally, and upon seeing nazi flags thinking "Oh, there's nothing wrong here".

So, for Trump to say that there are "fine people on both sides", he is implying that at least some of the white supremacists were "fine people".
 
Garry Kasparov's book "Winter is Coming-Why Vladimir Putin and the Enemies of the Free World Must Be Stopped" was a good read although it was a tad over the top at times.
 
You see this is why I don't like how ingrained we let "LOL all politicians are dirty, politics is all one big dirty game" get into our cultural psyche.

We've treated the concept of politics and the "politician" archtype as joke who dirtiness was just assumed with a shrug and "well whatchagonnadoaboutit?" for so long that I'm surprised it took us this long to have to deal with an outright unapologetic dirty cheating lair defended with either whataboutism directed at a whatabout that's more cliche then true or the stupid preteen angst "The whole system is rotten so I'm gonna defend the rottenest of it as a silly stupid affect to show how much more detached and better then you I am" straw nihilism.
 
Belz... said:
Not more so than ANY other president?

You really don't think that his disregard for the rule of law, which I seem to remember you thought was very important, is a cause for special concern?
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I don't accept your premise that he has disregarded the rule of law to any greater degree than a number of other presidents.
 
My problem with Hanlon's razor is that at a certain point ignorance and maliciousness become the same thing.
 
Trump blatantly encouraged supporters to assault political rivals and Don McGahn to obstruct justice.

His conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds from those two actions alone.
 
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