Woman claims she's not dead.

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After her credit card was declined, a Texas woman learned Social Security has declared her dead. It's an uphill struggle to prove otherwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-alive/ar-BBWwmNM?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

What struck me is the note in passing that this might happen 1,000 times a year. The SSA even has a web page telling you what to do if you think you're not really dead.
If you suspect that you have been incorrectly listed as deceased on your Social Security record, please visit your local Social Security office as soon as possible. Please make sure to bring one of the following pieces of identification.
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https://faq.ssa.gov/en-US/Topic/article/KA-02917
 
Bob001 said:
After her credit card was declined, a Texas woman learned Social Security has declared her dead. It's an uphill struggle to prove otherwise.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-alive/ar-BBWwmNM?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

What struck me is the note in passing that this might happen 1,000 times a year. The SSA even has a web page telling you what to do if you think you're not really dead.

https://faq.ssa.gov/en-US/Topic/article/KA-02917
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The article does say "fewer than 1,000".
Fewer than 1 mighte be acceptable.

I remember reading a SF story about a guy who was mistakenly thought by the government to be dead. Apparently we live in the future.
 
Thinking outside the literal wooden box, could this person not easily game the system? Sure voting would be right out, but so would tax. All taxes. Forever.

I mean, sure, the IRS could go after outstanding income pre-mortem. But could they go after post-mortem income?

I suspect they couldn't legally do that. I have no idea for a fact.

But I bet it would make one hell of a supreme court case. At a guess, one could make a fortune out of pay per view. Or death.
 
Trebuchet said:
The article does say "fewer than 1,000".
Fewer than 1 mighte be acceptable.

I remember reading a SF story about a guy who was mistakenly thought by the government to be dead. Apparently we live in the future.
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I misread it. Not 1,000 a year. 1,000 A MONTH!
The Office of the Inspector General said in 2016 the SSA sees fewer than 1,000 cases of mistaken death declarations a month.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...-alive/ar-BBWwmNM?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

That number tracks with an audit report we issued in 2011 that found that, over a three-year period, about 36,000 people were erroneously listed as deceased in SSA’s death records.
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https://oig.ssa.gov/newsroom/blog/march24-death-reports
 
How do you find out if your dead or not?

I like this from the SSA: if you suspect you might have been incorrectly listed as dead on your Social Security record,

No, I was correctly listed as dead.
 
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This is exactly the kind of thing a dead person would want you to believe.
 
Trebuchet said:
The article does say "fewer than 1,000".
Fewer than 1 mighte be acceptable.

I remember reading a SF story about a guy who was mistakenly thought by the government to be dead. Apparently we live in the future.
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I can see how this would happen. Two years ago, someone was using my social security number on their W-4. I got a notice from the IRS saying I didn't report income from my job at a hotel in Tennessee. I've never been to Tennessee. If that person died, I can see how I would have ended up dead according to the Social Security Administration.
 
I hope the problem gets resolved soon so that her Social Security payments of thirty braaaaaaaains per month can resume.
 
The antithesis to this thread. Man serving life sentence ends up being declared dead, but they bring him back. He then thinks he should get out of his sentence.
 
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plague311 said:
The antithesis to this thread. Man serving life sentence ends ends up being declared dead, but they bring him back. He then thinks he should get out of his sentence.
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So if we make this woman serve that man's sentence... *Rolls in chalk board* let's see subtract his age from hers then divide by the average female lifespan over the average length of a "Life" sentence.... carry the 7.... convert to Metric... adjust for windage... factor in the Capital Gains Tax... and.... done.

See? The universal balances its scales.
 
plague311 said:
The antithesis to this thread. Man serving life sentence ends ends up being declared dead, but they bring him back. He then thinks he should get out of his sentence.
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Legal wording is legal wording, is it not? I bet his sentence didn't include the words 'to serve life until he shall be permanently dead'. I bet it just said, 'until dead', so technically he is legally in the right and should appeal.
 
Vixen said:
Legal wording is legal wording, is it not? I bet his sentence didn't include the words 'to serve life until he shall be permanently dead'. I bet it just said, 'until dead', so technically he is legally in the right and should appeal.
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Death is not a temporary state. By definition it's permanent.
 
Hmm, Identity theft I assume. Get a hold of someones ID, buy life insurance, get a phony death certificate, get a one time death benefit?

Nah, more likely incompetence. SS clerk "Oh loook, Bill Smith in Indiana died" and a thousand Bill Smith's lose their credit ratings.

I had a pretty harmless bit of ID theft a few years ago. I wanted to sign up on the SS website. There address verification questions all pointed to me living in El Segundo, when I supposedly leased a vehicle. Not me, never even been to El Segundo. Seems SS uses the credit agencies for their current info. I don't use credit, no TRWs filled out in looong time. A trip to the local SS office, brought along a whole stack of my old driver's licenses. Instant fix.

So, papers to prove you died are a lot easier to get than papers that prove you are still alive?
 
Vixen said:
...until the Resurrection.
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No, because then the bodies will be reconstituted but the consciousnesses that infuse them will be aliens. We only exist to run in the bodies and test them for their future occupants.
 
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