2020 Democratic Candidates Tracker - Part II

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cullennz said:
Well I think he is.

I have been saying for about 1 1/2 years on here the corrupt, idiot orange one will probably win again.

Because the left media are incredibly dim in their tactics.
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Seems to me the reason all these Democrats are flocking to run is because they believe Trump won't win.
 
There is a kind of irony in the fact the only one that has a chance is the same type of person the left are into slagging off.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
That's thin. A local poll in one state, and a stereotype of older black voters.

Yes, religious older black voters were against gay marriage and many probably still are.

Like you also quoted but didn't bolden:

This is how propaganda works. You start with a thread of truth and weave it into the thread of whole cloth. Look deeper.
WA Po, Jonathan Capehart, Nov 6th

Then there is the biggest variable of all: If you were a black and had to choose between the white supremacist that is Trump and gay Buttigieg, which would you vote for? What percentage of Trump voters are black?
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We're still in the primary, and I think the idea if it's applied to the general might be that voter enthusiasm/turnout would be lower with Pete vs someone else.

ETA: also, check the url of the kink you hyperlined to. It's goofy.
 
I think the billionaire class is just having a hissy fit over the chance that someone might try really hard to tax them a bit more. lol
 
kellyb said:
We're still in the primary, and I think the idea if it's applied to the general might be that voter enthusiasm/turnout would be lower with Pete vs someone else.

ETA: also, check the url of the kink you hyperlined to. It's goofy.
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Sorry for quoting myself, but...
I had typed "url of the link you hyperlinked" to.

Weird.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Ugh. Just what we wanted, another elderly white male billionaire to step forward and declare that the current 20 candidates just aren't enough. He'll show those women and ethnics and gays how it's done! Same old, same old, slow steam ahead!
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Not sure what you're driving for here. Is his gender or age or skin colour or sexual orientation the issue? If not, what's that bit about telling minority groups how it's done? I don't get it.
 
Belz... said:
Not sure what you're driving for here. Is his gender or age or skin colour or sexual orientation the issue? If not, what's that bit about telling minority groups how it's done? I don't get it.
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I'm saying Bloomberg is superfluous, and his belated decision to run is insulting to the voters as well as the other candidates.
 
shemp said:
What the hell is wrong with people who "vote" by staying home like that. They need to get it through their thick skulls: Your choice is four more years of Trump and his wholesale destruction of democracy, or someone who will spend the next four years repairing the damage Trump's already done!
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No, it isn't, at least not yet. The Democrat primary process is still working out whether we'll get that or somebody who might not contribute (as much as a Republican) to making things worse but won't fix/undo anything either... and whether the latter will pretend they're trying or openly talk about how proud they are of being so "bipartisan".
 
I'm all for Bloomberg joining the race: it must really piss off Trump to know that he might be up against someone who can buy and sell him 20 times over.
 
cullennz said:
. . . the left media are incredibly dim in their tactics.
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Is this because we don't have a left media in the US? We have a robust, in your face, 24-7 right wing media presence, and then a bunch of "mainstream" media. Our mainstream media is well left of the right-wing media but it's pretty well centered. Even ostensibly marketed for liberals MSNBC actually sources its claims, i.e., it's not just Fox News for liberals.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
I'm all for Bloomberg joining the race: it must really piss off Trump to know that he might be up against someone who can buy and sell him 20 times over.
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Or he's tickled pink at the thought that for all his money, Bloomberg can't actually buy or sell The Donald, and can't even wrest the Presidency from him.

I often wonder how closely Trump's inner life matches the life his detractors have dreamed up for him.
 
theprestige said:
Or he's tickled pink at the thought that for all his money, Bloomberg can't actually buy or sell The Donald, and can't even wrest the Presidency from him.

I often wonder how closely Trump's inner life matches the life his detractors have dreamed up for him.
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You think Bloomberg couldn't destroy Trump, financially, whenever he wants?
 
Brainster said:
I think it's exactly the opposite; that they sense the current crop of Democrats doesn't have a winner in its midst.
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That's probably true for some of them, especially Steyer. I don't know Bloomberg well enough but it seems to me this late entry suggests the same.
 
kellyb said:
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ETA: also, check the url of the kink you hyperlined to. It's goofy.
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Yeah, I was afraid of that. I've been using Startpage, anonymous view for WA Po hoping the link worked when shared with others.

You seem to have access to WA Po, you'll have to search for it if you're interested. Sorry.
 
theprestige said:
Or he's tickled pink at the thought that for all his money, Bloomberg can't actually buy or sell The Donald, and can't even wrest the Presidency from him.

I often wonder how closely Trump's inner life matches the life his detractors have dreamed up for him.
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It's just amazing watching you defend the most dishonest turd on the planet. The following are FACTS.

1. Trump publicly lies on average a dozen times a day.
2. Trump has been married, not once, not twice, but three times.
3. Trump has cheated and scammed thousands of people in his businesses.
4. Trump has been accused of sexually assaulting 20+ women
5. Trump engaged in tax and securities fraud countless times.
6. Trump has cheated both donors through a fraudulent charity.

Now, I cannot speak what Trump's family life is actually like. Nor do I care.

That said Bloomberg is substantially more successful then Don the Con.
 
Joe Sestak is in an interview on CSPAN making a great case for his integrity. I'm impressed and he's believable.

Worth reminding those who think Biden can beat Trump, Sestak brings up Biden running the Anita Hill hearing. The person running the hearing had the power to treat Hill fairly. Biden did not treat Hill fairly.
 
And then came Bloomberg, age 77.

I will say this. I will unhesitatingly vote for either Biden or Bloomberg if they run against Trump, but I just wish there were a candidate who is politically a lot like them, but under 70.
 
Meadmaker said:
And then came Bloomberg, age 77.

I will say this. I will unhesitatingly vote for either Biden or Bloomberg if they run against Trump, but I just wish there were a candidate who is politically a lot like them, but under 70.
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Buttigieg seems pretty close, but maybe too young and he doesn't have the facial features or height Biden has.
 
Bloomberg is the Republican's ideal version of a Democratic candidate. God bless whoever is pulling a paycheck from this vanity project, hope they extract as much wealth as possible from this idiot before he pulls out.

Trending today around the internet is this opinion piece about Buttigieg. It's largely a response to a 2011 video of Buttigieg claiming that the problem with inner city schools is that there aren't enough role models that value education in the community.

https://www.theroot.com/pete-buttigieg-is-a-lying-mf-1840038708?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=_twitter

This struck me a as fairly damning criticism of Buttigieg and his brand of upper-class liberalism that refuses to recognize that poverty is the problem.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Bloomberg is the Republican's ideal version of a Democratic candidate. God bless whoever is pulling a paycheck from this vanity project, hope they extract as much wealth as possible from this idiot before he pulls out.

Trending today around the internet is this opinion piece about Buttigieg. It's largely a response to a 2011 video of Buttigieg claiming that the problem with inner city schools is that there aren't enough role models that value education in the community.

https://www.theroot.com/pete-buttigieg-is-a-lying-mf-1840038708?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=_twitter

This struck me a as fairly damning criticism of Buttigieg and his brand of upper-class liberalism that refuses to recognize that poverty is the problem.
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He is very like Biden in his tone deafness on matters like these.
 
TragicMonkey said:
He is very like Biden in his tone deafness on matters like these.
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Of course, when this repackaging of the "pull your pants up and turn off the rap music" solution to black poverty completely fails in the SC primary, Buttigieg supporters will just claim that black people are homophobes. Anything to avoid a substantial conversation about poverty.

I am becoming more pessimistic every day. Trump is gonna win another narrow victory.
 
Ooo, Warren, Biden and Sanders have some sour grapes about Bloomberg entering the race. And Bloomberg is playing more than a few TV ads here in the Seattle area. They're pretty slick.

It does feel like Bloomberg is a big threat to Trump.

It will be interesting to see if he rises in the polls.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
Ooo, Warren, Biden and Sanders have some sour grapes about Bloomberg entering the race. And Bloomberg is playing more than a few TV ads here in the Seattle area. They're pretty slick.

It does feel like Bloomberg is a big threat to Trump.

It will be interesting to see if he rises in the polls.
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I don't particular LIKE BB but would take him over Trump, heck I'd take a dead badger.
 
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