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Woman jailed for posing as boy to assault girls
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It's interesting that somebody with a very low IQ can be as devious as this:
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And it wouldn't require a lot of intelligence to realize that it would be easier to approach girls who are into girls, not boys, even though it narrows the field, unless the whole point of her kink is to fool straight girls. |
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Maybe this person is a "heterosexual man inside a woman's body" and therefore pursuing lesbians is not of any interest. If so, then this person doesn't want a female who is interested in females... because this person identifies as male.
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Being low IQ she probably is for all intents and purposes a child herself, unless that's the sociopath in her talking.
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I think this shows that a person can still be very bright in certain ways, even if they have low IQ. Like they have a good ability to get people to like them in order to control them. But give them a maths test and they will do poorly.
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I remember a couple of years back about a similar occurance. That fe/male got sent to prison. Then there was that pornographic actress who was e-chastised to suicide because she didn't want to screw a gay actor on film.
The rules and implications about a gay or straight cisgender person unwittingly sleeping with a transgender of either persuasion is confusing, but not something that is likely to personally affect me. |
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It just makes it easier for her to do. Changes the event from almost impossible to believable. She was going for the vulnerable. She may have targeted certain people but they said 'go away, you are suspect.' So she left them alone and went for someone else. Just like when Microsoft rings you up.
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It's my understanding that female predators operating online are quite rare. I remember the law enforcement people who assisted in the making of "To Catch a Predator" saying that the show only caught male predators because female predators most commonly target victims to whom they already have access.
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We would be a lot safer if the Government would take its money out of science and put it into astrology and the reading of palms. Only in superstition is there hope. - Kurt Vonnegut Jr And no, Cuba is not a brutal and corrupt dictatorship, and it's definitely less so than Sweden. - dann |
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That expression does exist. Here is one example
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...box=1565775467
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We would be a lot safer if the Government would take its money out of science and put it into astrology and the reading of palms. Only in superstition is there hope. - Kurt Vonnegut Jr And no, Cuba is not a brutal and corrupt dictatorship, and it's definitely less so than Sweden. - dann |
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Because the transgender "its true if you really believe it, biology be damned!" argument is his best defense. Plus his girlfriends were in love with a man, and they are not lesbians or bi sexual.
Case Closed. If he wants to admit its a scam, or taking a perverse pleasure in fooling cisgender heterosexual girls into lesbian acts, plead guilty, or admit to being a desperate girl who made foolish choices in the search for love, that's a convincing evidence that he's actually a woman. Otherwise who are we to judge a man with a vagina, presumably female breasts and a uterus and ovaries? Its not his fault he was born that way. . |
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You didn't read my link from from last summer.
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So unfortunate part of this discussion has degenerated into the often revisited anti-transgender views of certain posters. I’ll avoid asking why this is such an emotional issue for some, but instead point out that there is already a lengthy thread on this topic.
As for this thread: there is no evidence the perp considered themselves a male. Second the gender identity of the perp, cis or trans, does not affect the nature or severity of the crime. |
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It reminds me of a conversation I saw on another forum years ago. The topic had come up of a female professional wrestler who had started doing adult movies, and someone commented on the genital alterations that she had experienced due to prolonged steroid use, expressing regret about what she had done to herself for her career. Suddenly someone started accusing them of being transphobic, despite the fact that this woman had never identified as transgender or said anything suggesting that she was transgender. |
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The thing is, we are where we are. Anyone questioning the actual sex of someone who looks ambiguous is laying themselves wide open to damaging accusations of transphobia. It's perfectly possible at least some parents thought the woman was a transman, and said nothing because they knew that remarking on a transman's actual sex is considered socially unacceptable.
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