The Great Zaganza
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If people wonder if Sanders is a Democrat, what they really wonder is whether Democrats will vote for him.
I know I am going to get hell for saying this but..the behavior of some..not all...of the Bernie Bros is pretty similar to that of the Trump supporters: a incredible ability to live in their own reality.
It seems to me that the best thing a Democrat President could do at this point is to push the envelope on what a President can do unilaterally, in opposition to Congress, in violation of laws, in obstruction of justice and in rigging elections: do everything Trump did, but more.
Just be a bit smarter about it, leaving less evidence.
That seems to be the only way to get Republicans to take the Separation of Power seriously, regardless of who is in the White House.
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No. You're confusing giving them legitimate grounds to use nice justifications to condemn Democrats with them actually caring about the principles that they're invoking to condemn Democrats. The official stance of the Republican leaders for waaay too long had has nothing to do with upholding the law, the Constitution, or actually helping others and a lot to do with "F U, suckers!"
It seems to me that the best thing a Democrat President could do at this point is to push the envelope on what a President can do unilaterally, in opposition to Congress, in violation of laws, in obstruction of justice and in rigging elections: do everything Trump did, but more.
Just be a bit smarter about it, leaving less evidence.
That seems to be the only way to get Republicans to take the Separation of Power seriously, regardless of who is in the White House.
In other words, a second Obama.
The "Bernie is not a Democrat" attack strikes a bit hollow
If Bernie is not a Democrat, then neither are his many supporters. Does the establishment really want them to vote 3rd party?
In other words, a second Obama.
Same criticism has been heard before.Biden spent over one million dollars on private jets in the last 3 months of 2019.
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-elec...-dollars-private-jets-last-three-months-2019/
To weigh these options properly, me must also weigh the possibilities of what A vs B might actually be able to achieve in office.
I'm kind of on the fence about that.Oh look, the DNC took a bribe from Bloomberg so they will change the rules so he can be in the debates.
DNC shooting itself in the foot again.
**** the DNC
I'm kind of on the fence about that.
Yes, they appear to be changing the rules to allow Bloomberg to participate. However:
- He still would need to meet other criteria (such as reaching a certain threshold in the polls) to make it into the debates
- Like it or not, he MAY be a serious candidate, and democrats might want to be able to compare him to Biden/Sanders/Warren on a more direct level. If he performs really poorly it may end his campaign right there.
I think some people here really want to read everybody out of the Democratic party who is not a "Progressive".
Sort of a Bizarro version of the Tea Party.
I think some people here really want to read everybody out of the Democratic party who is not a "Progressive".
Sort of a Bizarro version of the Tea Party.
I think some people here really want to read everybody out of the Democratic party who is not a "Progressive".
Sort of a Bizarro version of the Tea Party.
Libs hate socialists more than they hate fascists. Just wait and see
Oh look, the DNC took a bribe from Bloomberg so they will change the rules so he can be in the debates.
DNC shooting itself in the foot again.
**** the DNC
HBO host Bill Maher expressed his fear that President Donald Trump and Republicans will do anything to cheat and win in 2020, saying he's glad Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has "badass" supporters willing to fight fire with fire.
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"I like Bernie and Elizabeth Warren. But I feel like, and I have said, someone like Mayor Pete or Amy Klobuchar could win more easily. But I tell you why Bernie Sanders is attractive to me now: because he's the only Democrat, who like Trump, has an army. Who when it gets to this other level, he's got a bunch of badass motherf***ers who will get in the streets," Maher said.
But, climate change!!! The post was meant to point out the hypocrisy of the climate change crowd, the leaders of which seem to only travel around by private jets. I personally don't care if they do it, they are the ones who talk incessantly about carbon footprints and saving the planet. For me, "Do as I say, not as I do" is a non-starter.
Acknowledging that there is a problem is a necessary first step.if your campaign depends on the bankrolling of billionaires it is a step you won’t be taking.
I would rather just say what I want to say
than go through some torturous dance
Why not? The marginal rate was 91% in some pretty good years before Reagan stumbled into the Oval Office.
The whole hang-wringing over "Do I do something effective or follow my values" could be solved by everyone just adopting "Effectiveness" as one of your value.
Yes, that goes without saying.
Then do that. Why all the evasions?
Here's my problem with you: you keep calling it a torturous dance and other such colourful things, but it's ONE QUESTION, which you refuse to answer. You can't claim with a straight face that I've been leading you through a maze of pointless questions and platitudes to the point that you've lost patience with me. I asked you ONE QUESTION, and you have spent a LOT of energy protesting that you won't answer it.
And you do that all the time.
The whole hang-wringing over "Do I do something effective or follow my values" could be solved by everyone just adopting "Effectiveness" as one of your value.
Linky-poo?
Why not? The marginal rate was 91% in some pretty good years before Reagan stumbled into the Oval Office.
Biden campaigning in a watering hole in Iowa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo,_Iowa
you go there by tour bus
Pete B. is next door in the metropolis of Cedar Rapids, which has 10 Starbucks stores. Counties that have ZERO Starbucks stores are known to be 80-90% Republican. In the middle and going West of here. In California, a Starbucks has much more power, just one store marks a vast Democratic stronghold.
The Sanders campaign is powered by ordinary Americans, not bought by billionaires and their one-percenter interests.
The Donors Powering the Campaign of Bernie Sanders
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont received donations from an estimated 1.4 million people through the end of 2019 — far more than any other candidate in the Democratic primary race, according to fund-raising records filed with the Federal Election Commission. The map above shows his expansive donor base around the country, including in Iowa, whose caucuses will be held on Monday.
Mr. Sanders is powering his campaign with small donations from supporters across the United States, and he collected roughly $95 million from donors in 2019 without holding a single high-dollar fund-raising event.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive.../democratic-presidential-campaign-donors.html
NYT had to come up with a separate map to illustrate what was happening with the other runners, such is his dominance.
At a guess I'd say there are ten Starbucks locations within 5 miles of my home. And I live within the most Republican major city in the country (Phoenix).
Flawed question. Explained at least twice.
Right, we don’t go through a maze of pointless questions because I will only engage with a flawed question on my terms.