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26th February 2020, 10:02 AM | #1 |
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Will Trump See Covid-19 as an Opportunity?
I'm not thinking of a business opportunity. The virus is probably going to affect the whole tourist and hospitality industry negatively: travel agencies, airlines, cruise lines, theme parks and hotels.
We also know that he has no idea whatsoever what a virus or a pandemic is. But he has already stated several times that he might try to stay in office if he is not reelected in November. Declaring a state of emergency could be the way for him to cancel or postpone the primaries as well as the presidential election altogether - at least until a vaccine is ready if it ever is. Having to cancel his own ego-boosting rallies might be the only thing preventing him from doing so. |
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26th February 2020, 10:06 AM | #2 |
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Step away from the koolaid.
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26th February 2020, 10:07 AM | #3 |
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26th February 2020, 10:09 AM | #4 |
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Last thing Republicans want is more people voting by mail.
Much harder to harass voters or keep impossible voting hours. |
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26th February 2020, 10:09 AM | #5 |
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26th February 2020, 10:24 AM | #6 |
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I suspect he is working with Putin to bring the virus to the US and then he will declare himself dictator for life.
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26th February 2020, 10:29 AM | #7 |
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26th February 2020, 10:32 AM | #8 |
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26th February 2020, 10:39 AM | #9 |
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If there is one country I doubt can deal with Corona it's Russia.
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26th February 2020, 10:52 AM | #10 |
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The first time I ever heard about Presidential Derangement Syndrome it was Clinton Derangement Syndrome. However, for the varieties labelled Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Hillary (an honorary title), it was just a mildly sarcastic was of saying, "Oh, get over it. Not everything bad is caused by (insert politician's name here)".
But with Trump Derangement Syndrome, I think it really has reached the level of mental illness for some people. Is the OP author one of those? Well, that depends. Was the OP meant to be taken seriously? Then yes. The idea that Donald Trump is going to declare himself dictator is simply nuts. Uhmmmm…..let me revise slightly. The idea that Donald Trump will successfully declare himself dictator is simply nuts. I don't know what goes on in his head. He might just imagine that he could do it, but no. Even with a Coronavirus pandemic going on, there will still be elections, and Donald Trump will still respect the results of those elections. I shiver to think what he might do during his lame duck period, but come January 20, 2025, there will be a President of the United States, and he won't be named Donald Trump. Hopefully, January 20, 2021, but that's not as easy to foretell. |
26th February 2020, 10:55 AM | #11 |
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26th February 2020, 11:02 AM | #12 |
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What are you basing this on? He's said that he wants to stay in the White House and he's floated the idea to get a reaction more than once. It's not like this is some "out of left field" type of idea. Calling someone mentally ill should require them to at least contradict the words spoken by the target of their ire.
His concept is no more crazy than claiming someone is mentally ill without any ******* evidence to support the claim at all. Even if it's a hypothetical, again, it's not far off the mark. Trump has floated the idea more than once (with regards to staying in office). You guys just calling someone mentally ill isn't really refuting a ******* thing. It's the actual definition of an ad hom attack. You didn't contest anything about his argument. You said he was deranged and nothing else. That's the antithesis of skepticism. LoL the OP never said it would be successful, just that Trump would try it. How do you know he'll respect the elections? There's way more evidence to support the OP saying Trump will try to stay in office than your claim that he will respect the elections. Do you have actual evidence Trump will respect the elections? He respects absolutely nothing else. I think what you mean is Trump will be forced to adhere to the election results. I'd say it's more deranged and mentally ill to think Trump would adhere to any respected norm as he hasn't shown any evidence he will up to this point. |
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26th February 2020, 11:09 AM | #13 |
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26th February 2020, 11:11 AM | #14 |
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26th February 2020, 11:17 AM | #15 |
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26th February 2020, 11:20 AM | #16 |
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The only way that this would be comparable to so-called “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is if Clinton was on record implying multiple times that he committed murder and snorted cocaine.
I think a more appropriate term to use during the Trump era is Head-In-Sand Syndrome. |
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26th February 2020, 11:29 AM | #18 |
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I remember the Asian flu which I had at age 11 and had there been a way to avoid that level of misery I certainly would have done it. I doubt if this current virus is as bad as that one was. These things come along and people get hurt even if they are able to avoid the virus themselves. You lose money and that's all there is to it. The misery level of being sick is what scares people away and I don't blame them.
Its been 61 years since the Asian flu was around but it was a serious illness that cost the lives of thousands of elderly patients and young children with compromised immune systems or weak in some way already. Prior to to getting sick I was healthy as a horse but I will never forget the fever, the aches, the pains and the overall feeling of agony that coame with the Asian flu. |
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26th February 2020, 11:37 AM | #19 |
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26th February 2020, 11:46 AM | #20 |
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And that's the part where you got it wrong. Obama Derangement Syndrome was so significant, it literally took over the mainstream of the Republican Party, got Trump elected, and still dictates a large part of their agenda. The earlier examples of Presidential Derangement Syndromes were largely confined to the Alex Jones type fringe nutcases.
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ODS was based on virtually nothing. It was drawn entirely out of the minds of the people who went nuts seeing Obama in the Oval Office. In contrast, "TDS" is based on things that Trump has actually done and said. Oh, sure, he's "just joking"; oh sure, his agenda "isn't as bad as you make it out to be". But there's worlds of difference between concerns based at least somewhat on reality, and concerns pulled entirely out of thin air. |
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26th February 2020, 11:51 AM | #21 |
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The issue is that Trump is entirely transactional, and he no longer has any adults around him that might stop him from doing something that, at first glance, looks like it would give him a short-term advantage.
We can see right now how he tries to manipulate the Stock Market by lying about the scope of the Pandemic. It's not that Trump would plan to use the virus scare to delay elections, but neither is there reason to believe he wouldn't do so if given the opportunity and motivation; Trump hasn't shown any restraint of his own so far. |
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26th February 2020, 11:54 AM | #22 |
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26th February 2020, 12:14 PM | #25 |
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26th February 2020, 12:25 PM | #27 |
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26th February 2020, 12:26 PM | #28 |
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Well, we can probably start with
1. Nominate as many unqualified partisan sycophants to the Federal benches as he can and have Moscow Mitch jam them through Senate confirmation just as fast as possible. 2. Pardons galore for all the criminals who were loyal to him - Manafort, Flynn, Stone. 3. Withdraw from NATO There might be one named Donald Trump Jr though. I have no doubt that Dump will try to create a presidential dynasty by grooming Junior to become his successor. Of course, he would have to win the Republican nomination first, but I am sure Dump's base would support Junior 100%. |
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26th February 2020, 12:29 PM | #29 |
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Okay, even though we've down-graded from "mental illness" to "far-fetched", I am curious to know why you think it is far-fetched.
Trump has expressed a desire and willingness to stay in office beyond the legal term limit (I acknowledge that these are supposed to be "jokes", but that he said it cannot be denied). Trump has also exhibited a flagrant disregard for norms, protocols, and even the law. So where is the far-fetched part? |
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26th February 2020, 12:45 PM | #33 |
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26th February 2020, 12:46 PM | #34 |
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The part where Trump goes full retard.
Do you think he could succeed in what would amount to a coup? No, he couldn't. Do you think he doesn't know he couldn't succeed? Of course he knows. Do you think he doesn't know that he would pay a price for trying and failing? Again, of course he knows. So even with the worst reading of Trump's motives, why would he do something so obviously self-destructive? |
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