Merged I killed Duality and Uncertainty for a Theory of Everything

The answer seems to be that the wave function was never involved. If a particle is going to be physical, it will be so from start to finish. A classical state.
 
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It is either a particle Or a wave, not both at the same time. The quantum field does still have the power to make it ageless and wobble when a particle. Duality is dead! Look at the title of this thread
 
Dammit. He almost had me convinced that uneducated proclamations were better than science and math.
 
Usual lies about the double slit experiment, etc.

Nope, there are cases for it to only be a wave.....
17 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: Usual lies about the double slit experiment and what he wrote.

His last delusion was "Duality at all stages of a particles life is a misconception." This is obviously a ignorant delusion because no experiment that does that. what we have is the experimental fact that whenever a double slit experiment is done wave/particle duality is seen. That covers all of the "stages of a particles life" - emission, flight, and absorption.

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17 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: "The answer seems to be that the wave function was never involved." insanity .
A wave function in quantum physics is a mathematical description of the quantum state of an isolated quantum system.

17 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: "Did you read this?" idiocy linking to one of his posts of deluded gibberish, stupidity of an irrelevant quantum computing image and an irrelevant classical state page.

17 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: "or is duality a Density Matrix? (mixed states)" insanity.
Insane because Google and Wikipedia exist. Wave–particle duality. Density matrix

17 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: "It is either a particle Or a wave, not both at the same time. ..." lie and gibberish.
A point of the double slit experiment (especially single particle) is that the particles act as both waves and particles depending on the measurements taken. No which-path information (which slit) = waves. Measure which-path information and the same particles act as particles!
Another example is the electrons in atoms. They have the properties of quantum particles - mass, charge, spin. But their location has the same electrons acting as waves.
 
459 items of ignorance, fantasy, delusion, by pittsburghjoe since 4 September 2019

450 items of ignorance, fantasy, delusion, by pittsburghjoe since 4 September 2019

14 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: A demented "Do we have proof decohered condenced wave packets are still waves?" question.
14 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: Lies about my posts which are useful and helpful.
14 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: The "wave is not a wave" insanity for a wave rather than a wave packet.
14 February 2020 pittsburghjoe: Usual ignorant delusion about wave-particle duality.
Usual lies about the double slit experiment, etc. (5 items)
 
The Observer Effect

The unobserved quantum realm doesn't care about time or distance so the order goes something like this:

  1. quantum field excitation of a new particle is about to happen
  2. it gets assigned a path in the quantum field
  3. if the path contains a spacetime enactor (a detector), it swaps the particle to physical
  4. the particle or wave is sent via the quantum field if it's a wave / spacetime if physical


Uncertainty

Delta x Delta p = h-bar/2

There isn't a problem with position and momentum when the object is physical and not a quantum wave. The Uncertainty Principle is for waves.

Duality isn't a thing anymore. You may think you have evidence of a particle acting as a wave at the same time ..but you don't. You are assuming they are both at the same time because you are not taking observation into account. You wouldn't catch a quantum wave being a wave before it went through a detector (that it was moving towards). The particle is likely pre-set to be physical or a wave before it starts moving. Observation gives one type of result ..a physical one. (unless you messing around with polarizers) .

They key to killing duality is pointing out that the final panel of an experiment doesn't count as observation. When you say you can measure wave-like properties, it is derived from that final panel. If quantum observation doesn't show wave-like properties, duality at the same time falls apart. Quantum observation is only for detectors in the path of a particle that allows the particle to continue on.

People say uncertainty applies to physical objects because you peg an electron with a photon so its momentum changes ..well, duh, two objects just hit each other.

You can be certain that the particle in question will be physical if you place anything that will acknowledge its existence while it propagates on its path. That's what observation is, acknowledging a particle while it's moving from a to b. The delayed choice quantum eraser shows us that the entire life of both entangled particles is known. The first particle knows if the partner will ever be observed while in flight. Time in flight is not a factor for the state a particle will be from start to finish.


The realms of the Observed vs Unobserved

This post predicts what happens when Spacetime gets involved with unobserved quantum waves from the act of observation.
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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: zooterkin

Good!

That stupid, idiotic, lying troll who called himself 'pittsburghjoe' finally managed to get himself banned from the Forum.

It is always so nice when POS individuals like him finally get themselves flushed.
 
Good!

That stupid, idiotic, lying troll who called himself 'pittsburghjoe' finally managed to get himself banned from the Forum.

It is always so nice when POS individuals like him finally get themselves flushed.

Oh, he will be back, we killed at least 4 sock puppets of his at CQ.
 
He's had more than 4 at scienceforums.net; not always banned, he sometimes just goes away for a bit then comes back with a new name and pretends his ideas are fresh.

Pretty sure this is his latest there: ht tps://ww w.scienceforums.net/topic/121329-i-need-help-with-math-for-my-attempt-at-an-interpreation/

Also seen him at naked scientists (which is very loosely moderated) and scienceforums.com (which is pretty dire, but where he's mostly ignored). The cranks are sure of their ideas, so keep searching for support, rather than learning.
 
He's had more than 4 at scienceforums.net; not always banned, he sometimes just goes away for a bit then comes back with a new name and pretends his ideas are fresh.

Pretty sure this is his latest there: ht tps://ww w.scienceforums.net/topic/121329-i-need-help-with-math-for-my-attempt-at-an-interpreation/

Also seen him at naked scientists (which is very loosely moderated) and scienceforums.com (which is pretty dire, but where he's mostly ignored). The cranks are sure of their ideas, so keep searching for support, rather than learning.

Oh my, that reads very familiarly ...
 
It is either a particle Or a wave, not both at the same time. The quantum field does still have the power to make it ageless and wobble when a particle. Duality is dead! Look at the title of this thread

This is, admittedly, flogging a dead horse, or at least a banned one, but I found the confusion shown here to be instructive.

It's true that a photon, or any other object, is not "both at the same time". Er, well, not exactly. Any such object is what it is, and depending on how you interact with it, can behave either like a wave or a particle,and sometimes like both. The distinction is not as clear and absolute as people like Joe would like to think.

Take an electron, for example. Clearly a particle, right? Except that, at the right scale, it can simultaneously behave like both a wave and a particle. Aim a beam of electrons at a tilted single-crystal nickle surface, and it scatters just like a wave does on a diffraction grating. So it's a wave. But each electron can be detected discretely, so it's a particle.

It's amazing how the particle/wave duality wars break out in obscure corners of the field. You'd think that the last 50 years never happened.
 

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