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Old 26th March 2020, 03:30 PM   #1801
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Strictly for the purposes of appreciating this particular gripe, do you think that savvy users who find themselves a (sometimes reluctant) resource for assorted relatives and friends could include themselves as people inside IT?

Because I think I can feel your pain.

My mother is having problems with the streaming service Britbox we got her for an Xmas present. What's the problem? I don't know. She starts explaining "it just stops when I'm watching something, like this episode of Midsomer Murders where this lady drank this cup of tea and..." an hour later I've gotten her ideas of what the plot was, and which actors she recognized from other shows, but not the technical problem.

So now I just cut her off early with a helpful suggestion that she ask my sister, who knows all about this kind of problem.
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Old 26th March 2020, 03:47 PM   #1802
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Massive fustercluck going on right now. No-one know's what's going wrong but it's affecting pretty much everyone who's working from home, which apparently is nearly half the workforce. We're getting conflicting information about some computers that have reverted to the Professional version of windows rather than the Enterprise version but that's very obviously not the entire story.

How's your day going?
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Old 26th March 2020, 07:04 PM   #1803
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How's your day going?
You ever tried reading a Bitlocker recovery key to a 63 year old nursing assistant from your cell phone to her speaker phone while her dog yips in the background?
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Old 26th March 2020, 07:38 PM   #1804
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
You ever tried reading a Bitlocker recovery key to a 63 year old nursing assistant from your cell phone to her speaker phone while her dog yips in the background?
I think you've got me on that one. But how about this? A non-standard proprietary piece of software has stopped working. It's a business critical application, there is no workaround, and the whole team is affected. Team being 15 people. It qualifies for Priority 3, but given everything else that's going on...
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Old 27th March 2020, 08:25 AM   #1805
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I think you've got me on that one. But how about this? A non-standard proprietary piece of software has stopped working. It's a business critical application, there is no workaround, and the whole team is affected. Team being 15 people. It qualifies for Priority 3, but given everything else that's going on...
We had a data collection app where someone had mis-set a CRON schedule for a database info pull. They'd set it to * * * * * ?, So it ran every second. Just finished getting that one sorted.
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Old 27th March 2020, 09:22 AM   #1806
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It's slightly saner today. The users are getting settled into working from home and all the little quirks and remaining issues are getting knocked out.
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Old 27th March 2020, 07:58 PM   #1807
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Last update, 89% percent of my service is working from home, full time.

Sadly a related agency performed an update that locked 90% of them out of Citrix for a day. Fortunately, barely any of my team were affected because of the specific method we're using.

On Thursday night, I was performing scripted data updates remotely, with assistance from four other team members (including a DBA) who were also working from home.

Miraculously, our work was completed and everything back online and fully operational before the Citrix outage (10PM).

We were cutting it fine towards the end, and I confess to experiencing a little anxiety.

(Worst case though, I would have had to drive in and complete the work locally, along with a couple of other team members).

If even had my first Zoom meeting with a couple of colleagues.

(We didn't connect via the government network)

Next week I get to find out if we can make webex work.
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Old 28th March 2020, 06:45 AM   #1808
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Reportedly, my company (OpenText) as of early last week was 97% remote work. Mind you, we're a technology company; R&D, in particular, is mostly software developers (who, in theory should be comfortable with remote work).
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Old 28th March 2020, 12:31 PM   #1809
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No way I can work form home. The type of service we do is hands on, even when our hands are on a long stick or an IR remote control (much equipment is 12 to 20 ft in the air). Just got, finally, a company letter asserting I'm an essential worker in an essential industry. So far I haven't been challenged.

Some years ago I found that a universal leaning remote could work with some of our equipment and have been using one since then. I have some series of usual recovery operations programmed as macros. With a remote control camera enabled car or drone I could do some recoveries remotely. However, others would still require physical contact, whether that be with the long stick or us up on ladders and/or scaffolding.
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Old 29th March 2020, 07:28 PM   #1810
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I am very glad that today I am working from home and not from work. I took a look at the wallboard and we had a 20 minute wait for calls. That's the longest I've ever seen it.
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Old 30th March 2020, 12:03 PM   #1811
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ERROR MESSAGES PEOPLE!

Give us a little bit of information about the problem you're having, or you're just wasting everybody's time.
There is an upside to that...

My old company had a two business hour response time to new tickets and an internal policy that all new tickets should be responded to at close of business. "Could you maybe give us a clue about what software you're using and what the actual problem is?" was a legitimate first response.
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Old 30th March 2020, 12:09 PM   #1812
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Massive fustercluck going on right now. No-one know's what's going wrong but it's affecting pretty much everyone who's working from home, which apparently is nearly half the workforce. We're getting conflicting information about some computers that have reverted to the Professional version of windows rather than the Enterprise version but that's very obviously not the entire story.

How's your day going?
Well, all my dogs were total bastards today. Including the bitches. And one of them slipped her lead and ran away. But on the other hand I didn't have to go through logs , my hourly rate was better than I ever got in IT and most of my dogs are smarter than the users were. Those that aren't are cuter (okay to be fair there was this one young lady in... No not gonna go there)
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Desk-side really are the foot soldiers. Last couple of weeks have been some rapid office set ups and bulk laptop builds. Running stuff between sites today. All the while taking this virus seriously with temperature checks and sanitising of hands and equipment. Help desk hand overs too.

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The thing that's been impressing me the most about this whole situation is how chill everyone is being about it. We have systems falling apart, well not quite but it seems that way sometimes. We have 20-minute wait times on the phones. We have a 2-day backlog of emails. And everybody we speak to is like "yeah, no worries, you guys must be swamped, totally understand, you're doing a great job".

Which is nice to hear.
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Stop leaving me voicemails saying that "generic first name" person needs my help.

We're in the medical field. 95% of our 750+ users are middle aged or slightly older women. Half of them are named Sarah or Kimberly or Susan it feels like.
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Old 6th April 2020, 07:41 AM   #1816
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Mac users are the worst. Paying a premium to have a fancy shiny thing and they don't even bother to learn the basics. And added security requirements in Catalina are not helping.

Also: "this function required for working from home hasn't worked for months, but I need you guys to fix it now"

Your procrastination is not my emergency.
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Mac users are the worst. Paying a premium to have a fancy shiny thing and they don't even bother to learn the basics. And added security requirements in Catalina are not helping.

Also: "this function required for working from home hasn't worked for months, but I need you guys to fix it now"

Your procrastination is not my emergency.
I don't think that's fair. Most people aren't very computer-savvy. Certainly not to the point of proactively validating tools they're not actually using.

"This function I've never needed before, that didn't affect my work and isn't part of my skillset, turns out to be broken right when the company you and I both work for need it the most. As the experts in these things, I'm depending on you to get it fixed as soon as you can."
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Mac users are the worst. Paying a premium to have a fancy shiny thing and they don't even bother to learn the basics.
Also, having been both a Mac user and a PC user, and having supported both Mac users and PC users, my perception is there is no meaningful difference between them, in terms of computer-related skills and mindsets.
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I don't think that's fair. Most people aren't very computer-savvy. Certainly not to the point of proactively validating tools they're not actually using.

"This function I've never needed before, that didn't affect my work and isn't part of my skillset, turns out to be broken right when the company you and I both work for need it the most. As the experts in these things, I'm depending on you to get it fixed as soon as you can."
We run department-wide work from home testing. People are either lying about their results or simply not participating. And if you find a problem when you are working from home, we have 24-hour coverage to assist. There's no reason to let something like that go for months and then expect us to have an instant solution while we are dealing with a deluge of problems.
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The thing that's been impressing me the most about this whole situation is how chill everyone is being about it. We have systems falling apart, well not quite but it seems that way sometimes. We have 20-minute wait times on the phones. We have a 2-day backlog of emails. And everybody we speak to is like "yeah, no worries, you guys must be swamped, totally understand, you're doing a great job".

Which is nice to hear.
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You desktop/end user facing admins must be swamped with all the WFH these days.
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Reading the last few pages makes me even more grateful for working at a small business! I have 5 remote users. I bought a 5 pack of sonicwall SSL licenses, linked to AD, and turned on the VPN to the WAN port. After that, 15 minutes of testing and we were done. All things said and done I enabled my entire office to do work from home for $250, and 40 minutes of time invested. Booya.
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Not all heroes wear capes.

You desktop/end user facing admins must be swamped with all the WFH these days.
We actually got pulled from supporting internal users and had to triage client calls 2 weeks ago because our customer service department got overwhelmed.
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Also, having been both a Mac user and a PC user, and having supported both Mac users and PC users, my perception is there is no meaningful difference between them, in terms of computer-related skills and mindsets.
On the whole, I don't disagree, but this is for corporate use and we make the work from home requirements very clear. We make the remote access validation dependant on the role of the user, so you know what you need for your specific job. If, after all that, you still choose to pay a premium for a luxury brand, understanding how to properly remove an application or where your audio settings are is a small ask to help us with our workflow.
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This week we appear to be keeping up quite well. The queues certainly seem more under control.

Wish my promotion and security clearance would come through, though. I'm starting to think I've been lost.
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I should have said something weeks ago. I just received my letter of offer for the permanent promotion. I'll print it out, sign it, and return it when I go in to the office tomorrow.
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I should have said something weeks ago. I just received my letter of offer for the permanent promotion. I'll print it out, sign it, and return it when I go in to the office tomorrow.
You're in a government department. You're lucky that letter arrived any time in 2020.
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You're in a government department. You're lucky that letter arrived any time in 2020.
It certainly didn't help that the letter went all the way to HR's desk before HR said "yeah, we have a different system now" and made us start all over again.
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Someone literally just printed an email, scanned it, and emailed it to us as a PDF.



In other news, today is my last day as a contractor! I start as a permanent employee of the Australian Public Service tomorrow! Yay! Flextime, I have my eye on you.
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Someone literally just printed an email, scanned it, and emailed it to us as a PDF.
Of course you are angry. I would be too. Surely you should use an OCR program and convert it to text before creating the PDF?



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In other news, today is my last day as a contractor! I start as a permanent employee of the Australian Public Service tomorrow! Yay! Flextime, I have my eye on you.
Congrats!
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In other news, today is my last day as a contractor! I start as a permanent employee of the Australian Public Service tomorrow! Yay! Flextime, I have my eye on you.
Congratulations! Just in time to be furloughed due to COVID-19.
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Congratulations! Just in time to be furloughed due to COVID-19.
Not from the APS. It's considered "essential service". It's actually quite difficult to get involuntarily discharged from the APS. Basically you have to be convicted of a crime.
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Not from the APS. It's considered "essential service". It's actually quite difficult to get involuntarily discharged from the APS. Basically you have to be convicted of a crime.
Well...

If you ever need to, I'd suggest punching someone. They used to take that quite seriously.

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Of course you are angry. I would be too. Surely you should use an OCR program and convert it to text before creating the PDF?
Congrats!
I though the path was :
  • print email
  • photo printout with phone in landscape and at an angle
  • email photo from personal email to work email
  • embed photo in word document
  • screenshot word doc
  • paste in email

Also congrats!
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
I though the path was :
  • print email
  • photo printout with phone in landscape and at an angle on a wooden table
  • email photo from personal email to work email
  • embed photo in word document
  • screenshot word doc
  • paste in email

Also congrats!
There. Fixed it for you.

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Old 16th April 2020, 08:25 AM   #1835
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Relevant xkcd.
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Old 16th April 2020, 10:05 AM   #1836
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Originally Posted by Wudang View Post
I though the path was :
  • print email
  • photo printout with phone in landscape and at an angle
  • email photo from personal email to work email
  • embed photo in word document
  • screenshot word doc
  • paste in email

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Oh come on! It's so much easier to just take a picture of the screen showing the email with your phone, then attach the picture to an email and send it from your phone.
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Old 16th April 2020, 10:21 AM   #1837
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Not quite as convoluted, but yesterday I had a user ask if he could email me a pdf so that I could print it, scan it, and then email it to someone else. Not entirely illogical if, say, he needed to sign or stamp the hard copy and then scan and email that version. When I asked if he needed to do something to the printed version before emailing it, he was confused until I explained that if there was to be no change, he could simply email the pdf that he already had to the next person himself. In his defense, he was appropriately embarrassed for not thinking of that.

(Not a system admin. QA document control for a pharma company, but the main printer/scanner on this end of the building is in the document control room, which is a limited access area, so I am also the person who helps everyone with their printing and scanning needs when they don't want to walk to the other end of the building.)

At my previous job, I provided user support for the company's electronic document management system, which morphed into user support for MS Office and Adobe Acrobat and whatever other software was needed to use the EDMS. I appreciate this thread.
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The amount of paperwork I have had to do for this new position is astonishing. And yes, I said paperwork. Treeware. Things that I need to sign and date with a pen. So many of our forms are electronic now, and I think I've had to use every one that isn't in the last 48 hours.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
The amount of paperwork I have had to do for this new position is astonishing. And yes, I said paperwork. Treeware. Things that I need to sign and date with a pen. So many of our forms are electronic now, and I think I've had to use every one that isn't in the last 48 hours.
Do you have a special form for requisitioning the helicopter?

We do.
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Do you have a special form for requisitioning the helicopter?

We do.
Nah, don't have a helicopter. Best I can do is an Audiovisual and Theatre Booking form.
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