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Old 2nd June 2020, 06:23 AM   #1
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How many bombs did the US military drop in 2019?

Not sure about which forum to put this, but ... I do believe there is a conspiracy to keep us in the dark on this subject so....

I note that for years 'The Air Force Magazine' published a daily report that listed the number and types sorties flown each day by the Air Force, but that was discontinued.

Googling I can find that the US dropped 7000+ bombs on Afghanistan in 2019, and on Sept. 10 dropped 40 tons of bombs on an island in Iraq.

But I can't find any comprehensive numbers. Are they available?
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Old 2nd June 2020, 07:18 AM   #2
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Why would this be a conspiracy neglecting the fact that the AF discontinued publishing numbers?
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Old 2nd June 2020, 07:28 AM   #3
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Why are you asking us? Doesn't the Air Force have a press office?
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Just go to the CENTCOM operations page and click the links. They list all of their strikes for the various months going all the way back.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 03:13 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Why are you asking us? Doesn't the Air Force have a press office?
Because the question came up once before on this forum and someone gave the answer. So, it's in the archive, but I can't find it. I'm hoping the same person reads this thread. As I recall, the Air Force Magazine Daily Archive was part of the discussion, but using google search on this forum I still can't find it. If I could easily search my own posts I think I could find the discussion and then the answer.

In face according to google search "air force magazine" has appeared in only one post (other than in this thread) in the history of the skepticsinternational forum, and I'm pretty sure I discussed it, and the question about how many bombs, before ?????

But I could be wrong, were I right, google search should produce the answer, and I'm not finding it.

The other reason was that I looked at all the topics on the Forum currently, and I couldn't find any where the question seemed to fit.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 03:23 PM   #6
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Too many.
End of thread.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 03:41 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Saggy View Post
Because the question came up once before on this forum and someone gave the answer. So, it's in the archive, but I can't find it. I'm hoping the same person reads this thread. As I recall, the Air Force Magazine Daily Archive was part of the discussion, but using google search on this forum I still can't find it. If I could easily search my own posts I think I could find the discussion and then the answer.

In face according to google search "air force magazine" has appeared in only one post (other than in this thread) in the history of the skepticsinternational forum, and I'm pretty sure I discussed it, and the question about how many bombs, before ?????

But I could be wrong, were I right, google search should produce the answer, and I'm not finding it.

The other reason was that I looked at all the topics on the Forum currently, and I couldn't find any where the question seemed to fit.
Thanks for the explanation.

Are you committed to trying to get the answer from this forum? What do you think of the options suggested above, such as checking the CENTCOM website or contacting a military press office?

If there's a discussion you want to have about present or recent-past military operations, the Politics or Social Issues subforums seem like good places to start a thread.

If you want to discuss a proposed conspiracy regarding bombs dropped, this is probably the right subforum.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 03:44 PM   #8
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Why would this be a conspiracy neglecting the fact that the AF discontinued publishing numbers?
If the information is not readily available it is an obvious conspiracy on the part of the government/media to keep the public uninformed. That is obvious. Just because it is obvious doesn't mean it's not a conspiracy.

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Are you committed to trying to get the answer from this forum?
No, not at all. I would like to find the answer, anywhere. The thing is there is a site that has the answer, a govt. site as I recall.

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What do you think of the options suggested above, such as checking the CENTCOM website or contacting a military press office?
I think the suggestions are disingenuous and not helpful.

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Politics or Social Issues subforums
I thought of that, but ... it doesn't really fit. It seems like another forum is needed - government policies, war and peace, foreign policy are possible suggestions.

I really thought the question had been answered on this forum long ago, and I can't quite believe my memory is that faulty, but ..... according to google search, it is.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 03:49 PM   #9
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Maybe it's just a pain in the ass to collect all the numbers of all the bombs dropped by all the units involved in all the sorties, all in one convenient place for the general public to surf to on the World Wide Web.

Maybe it's not so much a conspiracy as it is just seeing the effort as an obvious waste of resources.

Especially since the military does list all the sorties themselves, apparently. What do you believe is important about knowing the exact number of bombs?

I doubt there's anyone anywhere in the Pentagon who actually knows the exact number. Why would they?
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Old 2nd June 2020, 04:05 PM   #10
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Jesus, guys, seriously?

Operation Inherent Resolve:

https://www.inherentresolve.mil/Rele...rike-Releases/

Strikes:

https://www.inherentresolve.mil/Rele...rike-Releases/

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CJTF-OIR does not report the number or type of aircraft employed in a strike, the number of
munitions dropped in each strike, or the number of individual munition impact points against a
target.
The information used to compile the daily strike releases is based on 'Z' or Greenwich
Mean Time.
Resolute Support (Asscrackistan):

https://rs.nato.int/page113865718.aspx

There you are. Go nuts.

You'll just have to estimate.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 04:38 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Saggy View Post
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I really thought the question had been answered on this forum long ago, and I can't quite believe my memory is that faulty, but ..... according to google search, it is.
Could the discussion have been in a members only section? External search engines cannot index those.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 04:48 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
Jesus, guys, seriously?.
I think the links you have provided is probably as good as it's going to get.

The information in the strike reports is not nearly as detailed as that the Air Force Magazine Daily Report as the report listed 'sorties' which I think refers to individual aircraft and categorizes them by purpose, and it is, a day by day report. However, it too did not list numbers of bombs dropped.

Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
You'll just have to estimate.
It would take a lot more info than we have to estimate .... I checked on the one report that made it to the news, linked in the first post, of 40 tons of bombs dropped on an island in Iraq on Sept. 10, 1919 ...

In the strike reports we read ....

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Between September 1 and September 30, 2019, CJTF-OIR conducted 28 strikes consisting of 33 engagements against Daesh targets in Iraq. CJTF-OIR engaged 33 Daesh tactical units, destroyed two tunnels, three weapons caches, 10 fighting positions, one bed-down location, two buildings, and two safe-houses.
So the 40 tons of bombs on Sept. 10 did not merit a mention.

Occasionally summaries do appear .... the latest I'm aware of is from 2017
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/30/...-military-2017
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The military dropped nearly 40,000 bombs in 2017 compared to the around 31,000 released during Obama’s last year.
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Could the discussion have been in a members only section? External search engines cannot index those.
Thanks, I'm not losing my mind after all !
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Old 2nd June 2020, 05:13 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Saggy View Post
Because the question came up once before on this forum and someone gave the answer. So, it's in the archive, but I can't find it. I'm hoping the same person reads this thread. .
It was a Ron Paul fan on the Skeptic Society forum who gave you this data, in the holocaust denial forum where you were arguing there was no holocaust. Look up your own posts there.
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It was a Ron Paul fan on the Skeptic Society forum who gave you this data, in the holocaust denial forum where you were arguing there was no holocaust. Look up your own posts there.
Give me a clue .... I think I was banned ... the 'saggy' account is listed as inactive .... pointing out the absurdity of the holohoax is generally sufficient to get one banned from a 'skeptics' forum (can you appreciate the irony?), and most of the rest of the internet, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc., now that the ADL is censoring most of the net (for example here is a vid that was banned from YouTube ... https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ul72dV4SbAoh/)

If you know the answer, why not say it, instead of being such an ... ??? what's the word ....
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If I could easily search my own posts I think I could find the discussion and then the answer.
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Originally Posted by Saggy View Post
So the 40 tons of bombs on Sept. 10 did not merit a mention.
Just another day at the office. ISIS wants to die for Allah, we're happy to help them out.

Then there's this:


https://apnews.com/cfc8a7dfb803453c96deb338f971ce35

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BAGHDAD (AP) — The U.S.-led coalition says American warplanes have dropped 36,000 kilograms (40 tons) of bombs on an Island in the Tigris River “infested” with members of the Islamic State group.

The coalition said F15 and F35 warplanes took part in the bombing on Qanus Island in the central province of Salaheddine, north of the capital Baghdad.

Tuesday’s attack is part of operations carried out by Iraqi forces and the U.S.-led coalition against IS, which was defeated in Iraq in 2017.

IS sleeper cells have since carried out deadly bombings in Iraq.

IS controlled large swathes of Syria and Iraq where they declared a caliphate in 2014.
That means they issued a statement. An F-15E has a payload of 23,000 pounds. You can look up their load out.
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Originally Posted by Saggy View Post
It would take a lot more info than we have to estimate .... I checked on the one report that made it to the news, linked in the first post, of 40 tons of bombs dropped on an island in Iraq on Sept. 10, 1919 ...

In the strike reports we read ....

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Between September 1 and September 30, 2019, CJTF-OIR conducted 28 strikes consisting of 33 engagements against Daesh targets in Iraq. CJTF-OIR engaged 33 Daesh tactical units, destroyed two tunnels, three weapons caches, 10 fighting positions, one bed-down location, two buildings, and two safe-houses.
So the 40 tons of bombs on Sept. 10 did not merit a mention.
Or, as September 10 falls between September 1 and September 30, it was included in the engagements you quoted above.

I'll add my name to the list of those puzzled as to why this is in the Conspiracy forum.
The US is making no secret of its fight against Daesh, nor do I see any reason why it should. I fail to see what significance the exact number of bombs dropped has, nor why there should be a conspiracy to conceal it.
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Originally Posted by Saggy View Post
Because the question came up once before on this forum and someone gave the answer. So, it's in the archive, but I can't find it. I'm hoping the same person reads this thread. As I recall, the Air Force Magazine Daily Archive was part of the discussion, but using google search on this forum I still can't find it. If I could easily search my own posts I think I could find the discussion and then the answer.

In face according to google search "air force magazine" has appeared in only one post (other than in this thread) in the history of the skepticsinternational forum, and I'm pretty sure I discussed it, and the question about how many bombs, before ?????

But I could be wrong, were I right, google search should produce the answer, and I'm not finding it.

The other reason was that I looked at all the topics on the Forum currently, and I couldn't find any where the question seemed to fit.
You posted about it here - http://www.internationalskeptics.com...8#post11861028
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If the information is not readily available it is an obvious conspiracy on the part of the government/media to keep the public uninformed. That is obvious. Just because it is obvious doesn't mean it's not a conspiracy.



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No it is not obvious that would be a conspiracy. There may be many factors that the AF decided to stop the information flow. And many if not all are not conspiracy elated. Is the glass half full or half empty?
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My instincts haven't changed. Seeing "global research dot ca" in that post...
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