Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 23

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Horatius said:
It's probably a poll amongst Trump supporters. Those are the only opinions he cares about, and no one in his employ will dare tell him that only listening to sycophants is a bad idea.
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I don't believe it's even that.

He cites 96% approval among Republicans regularly. I've never seen any poll giving him that.

Until I can find a citation, I assume the numbers were made up out of whole cloth.
 
CNN analysis savaged Trump's Rushmore speech. I avoid CNN analysis, got too burned out on the "this is the last straw" aspect. But I read this one and he didn't miss any chance for "dog whistles" that everyone can hear. Which makes them not dog whistles, I guess. Openly going for hysteria to "take our country back." I have to hope it will backfire because the alternative is pretty depressing.
 
How many people turned up for his Mt. Rushmore rally? I can't seem to find anything about that in the newspapers I usually read. Was it a dud like Tulsa, or did he manage to get a crowd this time?
 
Safe-Keeper said:
How many people turned up for his Mt. Rushmore rally? I can't seem to find anything about that in the newspapers I usually read. Was it a dud like Tulsa, or did he manage to get a crowd this time?
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They were expecting 7500. From the pictures I saw I can believe they had that many. It was like an amphitheater.
 
SezMe said:
Here is how Trump responded to two right-wing flunkies who asked what his goals were for his second term.

You'll end up on the floor either laughing or crying ... or both.
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In my opinion trump can't give an honest answer because even his supporters, "Can't handle the truth." He wants a second term because he wants to continue as U. S. president for four more years. That's basically it. He loves it, being Number One, all the attention, the air time. He was lucky enough to get voted in -- by the electoral college -- at a time when the economy was booming. The last four months the ride got a little bumpy but so what? Because when you could care less about anyone but yourself, bad things that happen to other people are no problem.
 
newyorkguy said:
In my opinion trump can't give an honest answer because even his supporters, "Can't handle the truth." He wants a second term because he wants to continue as U. S. president for four more years. That's basically it. He loves it, being Number One, all the attention, the air time. He was lucky enough to get voted in -- by the electoral college -- at a time when the economy was booming. The last four months the ride got a little bumpy but so what? Because when you could care less about anyone but yourself, bad things that happen to other people are no problem.
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He seems to want to be some kind of figurehead, like a king in a constitutional monarchy, what with the low amount of actual... presidenting he does, and how he seems to be so detached from the rest of the government, preferring to rule through Twitter. I think he actually would have reveled in the role of "first lady", whatever the title for that position is going to be when a woman wins the election. No responsibility, lots of attention, and a chance to be influential when he wants to be (or wants to pretend to be).

POTUS, though? I think he just finds it at the same time overwhelming and difficult, and dreadfully boring.
 
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underdog13
@heretosaveday07
The New York Times endangered U.S. troops by reporting that Russia was offering bounties.What will be the price they pay for this ??????
Rep. Banks: NY Times Endangered Troops With Russia Report
newsmax.com
 
Ladewig said:
Yes. But if one’s view of science falls somewhere between distrust and contempt, then of course President Trump will come out on top.

Science tells us that burning coal will create problems with the health of Americans; that global climate change will changes America’s agriculture, shoreline, weather, and biomes; that President Trump’s incompetence, ignorance, and pride dramatically raised the death toll; that a vaccine may not be available for a year or more; that UV-C ultraviolet Light kills viruses but also harms human cells so trying to expose human organs to UV light will not “clean the virus from the body”; that the best way to reduce America’s Corona virus statistics is not to simply reduce the number of tests.

In short, science tells us that President Trump is wrong.

Of course, the true believers will trust Trump over a [insert a snort of derision here] medical doctor.
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This is all true. But I thought (obviously mistaken) that if their lives or their loved one's lives were on the line they would defer to science.
 
Trump's speech last night disgusted me to my very core. That he would turn the celebration of America's birthday into a speech of hate and division like it was a campaign rally is beyond reprehensible. Just when you think he can't sink any lower, he does.
 
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Cases, Cases, Cases! If we didn’t test so much and so successfully, we would have very few cases. If you test 40,000,000 people, you are going to have many cases that, without the testing (like other countries), would not show up every night on the Fake Evening News.....

....In a certain way, our tremendous Testing success gives the Fake News Media all they want, CASES. In the meantime, Deaths and the all important Mortality Rate goes down. You don’t hear about that from the Fake News, and you never will. Anybody need any Ventilators???
 
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Will be speaking at 7:00 P.M. Thank you for all of the nice comments on the Mount Rushmore speech last night!!!

Big 4th of July Air Show soon coming down the East Coast. Get ready to look up to the sky. Check local listings!
 
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Paul Sperry
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According to the PC Coronavirus Police, protesting America is safe, but celebrating America is unsafe #HappyFourthOfJuly
 
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BDW
@BryanDeanWright
As patriotic Americans celebrate the nation today, remember what we are up against:
A fascist Democratic Party that wants us to hate ourselves, hate each other, and — most of all — hate America.
This is our fight.

The NY Times spent three years pushing Russian disinformation targeted against a duly elected American president that set the nation utterly afire.
I’m not interested in one damn word from this rag about anything, let alone darkness and division.
Enemy of the Republic.

Mollie
@MZHemingway
Republicans ought to be extremely happy with how much that speech has left the entire media complex apoplectic with rage and resorting to 100% lying about it. An unquestionable sign of its quality and success if they are all-hands-on-deck lying about it.
 
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Andy McCarthy
@AndrewCMcCarthy
The Flagrant Distortions and Subtle Lies of the ‘1619 Project’ - timely revival of @RichLowry setting straight the American record on slavery ...


The Flagrant Distortions and Subtle Lies of the ‘1619 Project’
Nikole Hannah-Jones isn’t remotely honest in her lead 1619 essay.
nationalreview.com
 
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This would be the beginning of the end. He has no clue, but he wouldn’t be calling the shots!!!
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Finally, Biden asked more precise question about monuments. Responds by saying that it would be "better" if local governments took steps to take down confederate statues, but won't condemn people lawlessly tearing them down.
 
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...And if the Federal Government wasn’t getting ready to go in, and we were all set, it would still be a squatter’s (anarchist’s) mess!
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Kimberley Strassel
@KimStrassel
Durkan is right to care about the safety of her family, and right to be upset her home was vandalized. Now, if only she'd exhibited the same care for the safety and property rights of the legal residents/businessowners of CHOP. twitter.com/jwhittenbergK5…
 
Stacyhs said:
Trump's speech last night disgusted me to my very core. That he would turn the celebration of America's birthday into a speech of hate and division like it was a campaign rally is beyond reprehensible. Just when you think he can't sink any lower, he does.
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I didn't see it, or read it, but did click on a CNN analysis. As it sank in I wondered if he didn't go too far with the rhetoric. So many if his lines suggested "yeah, but" responses from anyone who considers themselves even slightly moderate. "We want free and open debate, not speech codes and cancel culture." Yeah, but he's the one constantly trying to muzzle the press and insisting on no-disclosure agreements. Plus I don't think "cancel culture" is really in the mainstream of American speech. To my ear, he doth protest too much, though of course I'm more primed to hear that than his mainstream "supporters."

I put "supporters" in quotes because I think one thing above all might chip away at that, which is the very simple fact that he did just about everything he could to actively discourage the wearing of masks. And now Republicans are urging everyone to do it anyway. Which raises the question, for what? What was his gratuitous discouragement of mask-wearing meant to accomplish? It was *all* about sowing division, as far as I can tell, and now his own party had broken ranks. The cost of that dick move hasn't been calculated but the bill is coming due in some red states with lots of older people.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
To be fair, a lot of men call their wives mother if they have kids. My dad called my mom Mother on occasion.
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Yeah sorry that's weird as hell. And this isn't judgement from an outsider my grandparents used the terms as well and I thought that was weird too.
 
dudalb said:
jimbob said:
That is *really* unfair on Benedict Arnold.
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Not Really,Arnold was planning on a "fake" attack that would dhave gotten US troops killed in order to cover his turning over West Point to the British. There are reasons why his name is sysnonomous with Treason in the US.
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Arnold's history is quite a bit more complicated than that.

Jimbob was talking about a comparison between Trump and Arnold. Unlike Trump there are also reasons that, before he finally saw the British as better friends than the Continental Congress, his name was synonymous with "hero", "military genius", and more. It is very likely that had it not been for the dedication, prowess, and brilliance of Arnold's service to the fledgling nation we would have lost that revolution.

Trump's career in service to the country has offered little else but treason. Any comparisons to Arnold are specious.
 
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