Is Kamala Harris evidence of Team Biden embracing the H1B companies that steal US Job

theprestige said:
Kudos to Michelle Obama, for paraphrasing such a clear rhetorical victory over the perfidious Them.
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Are you pretending that she isn't speaking about a specific group of people?

Your post is pure sophistry.
 
pgwenthold said:
My favorite attack now is how she has an ancestor who was a SLAVE OWNER.

Like somehow it is an issue for Harris because she is descended from a slave owner who raped one of his slaves?

Has she tried to erect a statue to honor him or something?
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Don't let that bother you. It's the same thinking that allows racists to call the left the "real" racists, or that allows theists to call science a worse religion. It simultaneously seeks to absolve them of their flaws via equivocation ("everyone does it"), admits that it's a flaw and ignores the obvious implication all at once.
 
Belz... said:
Yes, because Trump has demonstrated that he deserves the same amount of respect as any member here.
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Not the members, the double standard. The amount of abuse Trump receives here, I won't consider any argument that Harris is off limits to even a fraction of the same kind of abuse.

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It's ironic that the only people here talking about Harris' skin color are the progressives. The only people using skin color as an insult are progressives. A depressing number of people seem to think this forum is, or should be, a safe space to express every kind of bigotry dear to progressives. The kind of bigotry they imagine I harbor in my heart, they wear on their sleeves.

So acbytesla and Stacyhs want to lecture me for cracking wise about Harris' face-lift? Boop to that.
 
theprestige said:
Not the members, the double standard. The amount of abuse Trump receives here, I won't consider any argument that Harris is off limits to even a fraction of the same kind of abuse.

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It's ironic that the only people here talking about Harris' skin color are the progressives. The only people using skin color as an insult are progressives. A depressing number of people seem to think this forum is, or should be, a safe space to express every kind of bigotry dear to progressives. The kind of bigotry they imagine I harbor in my heart, they wear on their sleeves.

So acbytesla and Stacyhs want to lecture me for cracking wise about Harris' face-lift? Boop to that.
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Face lift? I didn't even know she had a face lift.

Mocking Trump's fake orange 'tan' isn't even in the same ball park as expressing racism because of a person's natural skin color. Give me a break.

ETA: From what I've found, the face lift bit is just another rumor going around. You might want to take the gossip to twitter where it belongs.
 
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Several posts moved to AAH.

Whilst the topic of this thread may not be particularly well-defined in the OP, it is a) related to Kamala Harris and b) clearly not about one another.

Please keep on topic, or not post in this thread at all.

Thank you.
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Kamala Harris is not well liked among the majoritarian Hindutva political structure in India. The same applies for the Industialists and entrepreneurs. As far as they are concerned, she is an opponent of Modi's close friend Trump, so she is bad. To some of the more extreme types she is a race traitor. As one major journalist (from a wannabe Fox channel) put it, Indians "should not take pride in her appointment as she is more concerned about human rights than her "Indian" heritage." The general trend in the right wing social media is abuse (as usual) and calling her an anti-Indian traitor.
I guess she must be doing something right.
 
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Stacyhs said:
I'm still trying to figure out the logic* behind connecting Kamala Harris with an increase in companies increasing usage of H1b visas to hire IT people from India...
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It supports another right wing troll meme: Democrats hate the United States. Remember, right wingers don't require evidence, it just has to feel good when they write or say it.
 
Let's not lose sight of the OP that started this whole thing. That Kamala Harris is on board with Team Biden's attempts to import "low quality Subcontinental IT workers driving down wage levels in an all around bid to screw America." Referring to that popular meme that Democrats hate the U.S. As Fox News' Tucker Carlson recently 'reported,'
“The leaders of today’s Democratic Party ... despise this country,” [Tucker Carlson] said. “They have said so. They continue to. That is shocking but it is also disqualifying. We cannot let them run this nation because they hate it. Imagine what they would do to it.” link to Associated Press article
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Ready for some more?

Days after reports surfaced that some Republicans were discussing Carlson as a potential 2024 presidential contender, he delivered a monologue Monday night striking in its language and amplification of points made by Trump over the Fourth of July weekend.
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Belz... said:
Go ahead, list the things Harris has done that deserve scorn and ridicule, and I can list a hundred for each of them about Trump. Your attempt to create a false equivalency under the pretense of calling out hypocrisy is transparent and pointless.
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I'll list the silent part that they won't say, but believe, out loud:
  1. She's black
  2. She has black/brown parents
  3. She's not a Trumpanzee
  4. She's black
  5. She's a liberal
  6. She's a Democrat
  7. She's black
  8. She's a woman
  9. She wants to restore our democracy
  10. She's black
 
The Don said:
Kamala Harris is the multi-racial child of comparatively recent immigrants to the US. Selecting her as the Vice Presidential candidate is apparently sending the message that the the future is unlimited immigration :confused::boggled::tinfoil


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My experience of "Low quality Subcontinental IT workers" is that they are well trained, highly motivated, diligent and hard-working. There are some cultural differences which you need to be aware of if you're working with them (specifically an unwillingness to contradict a superior (me :)) even when they're flat out wrong :o) but if you're aware of this and can read between the lines then you can usually work around this.

I'd take that over lazy, entitled, disinterested and stupid any day.
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Well said.
I've been in ICT for decades, I've worked with all sorts. There's always some cultural issues with people from any group but they can be managed. Frankly the 'Indians' (in the generic, sub-continent sense) have less issues than, as you say, the "lazy, entitled, disinterested and stupid" or even the god-bothering types.

I rather suspect that the "lowest difficulty setting" USAians are scared of the competition.

Regarding Senator Harris, she's the Trumpettes' worst nightmare; intelligent, able and utterly unwilling to be browbeaten. Something they cannot handle well, like the Tantrump himself.
 
Joe Random said:
NB : I do not agree with this position, but my understanding of the idea is that companies will lay off Americans currently working and replace them with immigrants brought in, who would do the same work for far lower wages/benefits. While there is a little bit of truth to some of the underlying concepts (why did so many US companies off-shore call centers to India, after all?) it falls apart when you try to say it's going to be driven intentionally by the government.

Any given company wanting to replace its staff with people they can pay less? Sure, the company benefits and doesn't have to worry about the now-laid off worker. But the government doing it, and doing it at such a large scale, now just created a massive unemployment problem for themselves.
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Then perhaps those USAians should take the matter up with their government? "Offshoring" of jobs, dismantling of unions and social protection and ending worker rights have been planks of Republican policy for many years.
 
Future Republican presidential candidate Tucker Carlson the other night being corrected on mispronuncing Kamala Harris' first name and saying, "So what?"
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Some of the people who replied on Twitter zinged Tucker Carlson over his patented 'blank stare.' I've mentioned this before but, is it unfair to mention that? ;)
 

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rockysmith76 said:
Is a new influx of H1b contractors into the US about to despoil the US Job market, hell, the Canadian one to for that matter. Low quality Subcontinental IT workers driving down wage levels in an all around bid to screw America (and Canada)?
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Maybe you are not aware of this one detail, so I will attempt to explain it to you...

Even if Biden does win the 2020 Presidential Race, then he will not actually become the President until 20 JAN 2021 and Harris will not become the Vice-President until that same date.

Therefore, it is quite unlikely that Harris has anything to do with that "new influx of H1b contractors" that you are so terribly fretting about.
 
Crossbow said:
Maybe you are not aware of this one detail, so I will attempt to explain it to you...

Even if Biden does win the 2020 Presidential Race, then he will not actually become the President until 20 JAN 2021 and Harris will not become the Vice-President until that same date.

Therefore, it is quite unlikely that Harris has anything to do with that "new influx of H1b contractors" that you are so terribly fretting about.
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She will also be in an office with virtually no substantive power until Biden quits or drops dead.
 
Babbylonian said:
She will also be in an office with virtually no substantive power until Biden quits or drops dead.
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I don't know - Dick Cheney ended up getting a lot of stuff he wanted.

She's not going to be Mike Pence - she may have the drive to turn the vice presidency into something it hasn't been before.
 
newyorkguy said:
Some of the people who replied on Twitter zinged Tucker Carlson over his patented 'blank stare.' I've mentioned this before but, is it unfair to mention that? ;)
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That is amazing. If he weren't wearing different clothes, I might have thought that was all one picture.

Does he practice, I wonder? It's amazingly consistent.
 
Minoosh said:
I don't know - Dick Cheney ended up getting a lot of stuff he wanted.

She's not going to be Mike Pence - she may have the drive to turn the vice presidency into something it hasn't been before.
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All the VP drive in the world only matters if the President lets it matter.
 
Minoosh said:
That is amazing. If he weren't wearing different clothes, I might have thought that was all one picture.

Does he practice, I wonder? It's amazingly consistent.
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Making fun of it is fruitless because it's one of his bits. While those who consider him a white supremacist ******* see the look and think it's dumb, his loyal viewers see it as a baffled reaction to something dumb/crazy a liberal did or said.
 
Steve said:
Seems the answer to the op is “no”. Are any more comments necessary?
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Agreed.

Which is a bit sad because I think H1B visas are actually worthy of a bit more scrutiny. I think people would be surprised that the biggest users of H1B visas are not even American companies. Oh well.
 
I assume there aren't as many US companies that provide IT contractors?
 
I am not sure how an immigrant worker can drive down wages? Do they routinely ask the prospective employer to pay less or might it be the employer lowers the wages knowing an immigrant will do the job?

Surely it is the employer who is driving down the wages.

Why would any free market republican object to this? As an employers biggest cost surely they would object to any regulation to prevent them keeping this cost as low as possible.
 
learner said:
I am not sure how an immigrant worker can drive down wages? Do they routinely ask the prospective employer to pay less or might it be the employer lowers the wages knowing an immigrant will do the job?

Surely it is the employer who is driving down the wages.

Why would any free market republican object to this? As an employers biggest cost surely they would object to any regulation to prevent them keeping this cost as low as possible.
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I'm pretty sure different Republicans have different views on this. Generally the old Republican establishment would probably be in favour of the low wages, while the Trumpian faction would be more interested in the impact of those low wages on existing workers..
 
shuttlt said:
I'm pretty sure different Republicans have different views on this. Generally the old Republican establishment would probably be in favour of the low wages, while the Trumpian faction would be more interested in the impact of those low wages on existing workers..
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So Trumpians are against employers running their businesses as they see fit? Would they favour regulation to limit employers use of low wages and immigrants?
 
learner said:
So Trumpians are against employers running their businesses as they see fit? Would they favour regulation to limit employers use of low wages and immigrants?
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Trumpian voters hate immigrants. Trumpian donors like cheap labor. Trump will do whatever he can to appeal to both.
 
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