[Merged] What is Parler? / Parler gets owned

William Parcher · 31st December 2020, 12:05 PM

I'm seeing references to Parler but I don't know what it is. Seems like another new social media thing.

Thermal · 31st December 2020, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

I'm seeing references to Parler but I don't know what it is. Seems like another new social media thing.

I gather it is an uncensored Facebook kind of thing. Kind of like the 4chan of social media. White supremacists took a fancy to it when FB gave them the boot. Parler means 'to talk' in French IIRC.

Cavemonster · 31st December 2020, 12:14 PM

A new social media space in reaction to what some on the right view as censorship by Facebook and Twitter.

It's meant to be a place of greater freedom.

Voat was a similar "anything goes" space. In that case, the wild west lack of rules made it a haven for the more toxic side of things, which lost them any more mainstream users who wandered over and got turned off, leaving the remaining discussion to get even more toxic.

I expect Parler will either experience a similar effect or they'll exercise some restrictions or moderation while arguing about how theirs are different.

Over on Reddit, the conservative subreddits tend to be both incredibly vocal about the evils of social media moderation as a violation of free speech. They also tend to be the most moderated spaces. r/conservative has about half of their threads limited to confirmed conservatives.

William Parcher · 31st December 2020, 12:37 PM

I didn't think it was something I'm interested in. I don't even do Facebook, so no thanks for this one. I was just curious. Uncensored can be really ugly.

Mojo · 31st December 2020, 12:45 PM

Let’s Parler Franglais c’est un book par le remarkable author Anglais Monsieur Miles Kington. Il a ete aussi le player de bass pour le beat combo populaire Instant Sunshine.

alfaniner · 31st December 2020, 01:37 PM

Now you've done it...

Hope you brought your Piece of Eight!

Trebuchet · 31st December 2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cavemonster

A new social media space in reaction to what some on the right view as censorship by Facebook and Twitter.

It's meant to be a place of greater freedom.

Voat was a similar "anything goes" space. In that case, the wild west lack of rules made it a haven for the more toxic side of things, which lost them any more mainstream users who wandered over and got turned off, leaving the remaining discussion to get even more toxic.

I expect Parler will either experience a similar effect or they'll exercise some restrictions or moderation while arguing about how theirs are different.

Over on Reddit, the conservative subreddits tend to be both incredibly vocal about the evils of social media moderation as a violation of free speech. They also tend to be the most moderated spaces. r/conservative has about half of their threads limited to confirmed conservatives.

You have the freedom to express any far right idiocy you like on Parler. The slightest hint of liberalism will get you banned right quick.

TJM · 31st December 2020, 08:21 PM

From the Nashville Bombing thread, some comments from the Parler braintrust:

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

Seen on Twitter:

I'm in awe of the towering intellect on display.

smartcooky · 1st January 2021, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by AJM8125

From the Nashville Bombing thread, some comments from the Parler braintrust:

I'm in awe of the towering intellect on display.

Oh, not to mention the extraordinary level of literacy!

"blue up the building"
"a escape goat"
"domino machine"

William Parcher · 1st January 2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by AJM8125

From the Nashville Bombing thread, some comments from the Parler braintrust:
I'm in awe of the towering intellect on display.

That sure isn't any mainstream chatting.

plague311 · 5th January 2021, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by smartcooky

Oh, not to mention the extraordinary level of literacy!

"blue up the building"
"a escape goat"
"domino machine"

I keep my escape goat in the garage behind the freezer. Still no one has found it.

alfaniner · 5th January 2021, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by plague311

I keep my escape goat in the garage behind the freezer. Still no one has found it.

The Escape GOAT, of course, is nothing other than The Amazing Randi.

(OK, maybe after Houdini...)

ahhell · 5th January 2021, 10:41 AM

Its a conservative facebook, even other conservatives are making fun of it.

plague311 · 6th January 2021, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

The Escape GOAT, of course, is nothing other than The Amazing Randi.

(OK, maybe after Houdini...)

It took me 3 reads to figure this out. I like it!

alfaniner · 6th January 2021, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by plague311

It took me 3 reads to figure this out. I like it!

Squeegee Beckenheim · 10th January 2021, 08:26 AM

This thread talks about why, given recent events, Parler is likely dead for good.

Darat · 10th January 2021, 08:40 AM

Yeah - William probably should ask the mods to edit the title to “What was Parler?”

Ron Obvious · 10th January 2021, 09:07 AM

"Escape Goat" I've heard a few times before, but what is a "Domino Machine"? I tried saying it out loud and didn't figure it out. Deux Ex Machina? What?

TJM · 10th January 2021, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ron Obvious

"Escape Goat" I've heard a few times before, but what is a "Domino Machine"? I tried saying it out loud and didn't figure it out. Deux Ex Machina? What?

Dominion vote counting machines, the ones which stole the election.

Ron Obvious · 10th January 2021, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by AJM8125

Dominion vote counting machines, the ones which stole the election.

Ah, duh! Thanks!

Wudang · 11th January 2021, 04:04 AM

For a moment I thought they meant Lotus Domino servers.

cow_cat · 11th January 2021, 05:17 AM

Parler is a sloppily hacked together, joke of a social-media site which has so many security flaws, this just happened.

TL;DR, the entire Parler database, including deleted posts (which weren't actually deleted, just removed from public view), images and their metadata (locations, IP address of uploader etc), account information, and even verified account information has been downloaded and stored in various places online. How do you get a Parler verified account? You upload a copy of the front and back of your driver's license and link it to your account.

I won't link to the online copies of Parler's content, but I don't suppose that it's too difficult to find, should you be curious. There might be a bottleneck on downloading the data, as quite a few law enforcement agencies are probably downloading the information also. If you're wondering why the FBI were so quickly and easily able to populate the no-fly list and take into custody certain people, this is probably part of the reason why.

Congratulations to all involved.

malbui · 11th January 2021, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Wudang

For a moment I thought they meant Lotus Domino servers.

Thanks for bringing on my PTSD.

shemp · 11th January 2021, 08:26 AM

https://twitter.com/mattsheffield/st...73748450918402

Quote:

This Parler user explains it quite well here. Because of yet more security flaws at Parler, it's now possible for all that "free speech" to be shared and archived with the world, even if the posters tried to erase their not-at-all innocent videos and GPS data.

In slightly more technical terms, it seems as though Parler never closed some of their developer-friendly security holes (sort of the programming equivalent of game cheat codes made by devs) and as a result, their anyone with the right knowledge could have admin access.

Parler never actually deleted anything its users posted. And, stupidly, they also kept it accessible to admin users.

This meant that anyone with admin access could still download it.

Once Parler's two factor authentication feature was disabled, because it was designed for developer convenience rather than security, anyone with the knowledge could become an administrator. And that's how Parler just got owned.

People have been downloading the raw videos, photos, and text posts by the gigabyte and archiving it for later public distribution.

All that perfect, totally harmless free speech will still be searchable, even now that Amazon locked out Parler from its servers.

I haven't confirmed this yet but it's possible that among the not-actually-deleted data might be the archived photos of the state identification cards that Parler invited users who wanted to be verified to upload.

Look forward to massive Wikileaks-type data dumps.

ponderingturtle · 11th January 2021, 08:29 AM

Truly taking the democratization of free speech seriously by letting anyone be an admin.

Wudang · 11th January 2021, 08:31 AM

Thanks cow_cat.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1785343.html

Quote:

‘There is nothing you can do to prevent what’s already happened. All you can do is prepare for the fallout’ a message from the North Central Florida Patriots Telegram chat reads.

As the saying goes: oh look it's the consequences of your actions.

Estimates seem to differ between 70 and 80 TB of data.

DuvalHMFIC · 11th January 2021, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by Cavemonster

A new social media space in reaction to what some on the right view as censorship by Facebook and Twitter.

It's meant to be a place of greater freedom.

Voat was a similar "anything goes" space. In that case, the wild west lack of rules made it a haven for the more toxic side of things, which lost them any more mainstream users who wandered over and got turned off, leaving the remaining discussion to get even more toxic.

I expect Parler will either experience a similar effect or they'll exercise some restrictions or moderation while arguing about how theirs are different.

Over on Reddit, the conservative subreddits tend to be both incredibly vocal about the evils of social media moderation as a violation of free speech. They also tend to be the most moderated spaces. r/conservative has about half of their threads limited to confirmed conservatives.

I don't even think you can post on r/conservative until you give yourself flair showing off your political leanings. This makes it much easier for them to steer the narrative.

Jack by the hedge · 11th January 2021, 08:36 AM

Assuming this is real, but if not it would also work as an amazing prank, if one wanted to troll those charming consequence-free speech advocates into abandoning parler.

cow_cat · 11th January 2021, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Wudang

Thanks cow_cat.
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1785343.html

As the saying goes: oh look it's the consequences of your actions.

Estimates seem to differ between 70 and 80 TB of data.

The people behind this "archiving" are the real heroes.

I am now rather glad I resisted my baser instincts to create a Parler account for the purposes of "trOllZing tEh maGaZ". Parler is now offline, and it looks like nobody is interested in hosting it or being involved in it anymore.

This is being discussed in a few places - here and here. I wonder if a merge is in order.

plague311 · 11th January 2021, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

Truly taking the democratization of free speech seriously by letting anyone be an admin.

In their defense, they were really terrible at programming, network security, and data encryption, but if it helps, they also lost their services so fast I don't think they had a chance.

From what I've read in a few spots, it sounds like their 2FA and email verification provider stopped providing them the service. This meant accounts could be created without any registration process at all. Someone used that to figure out how to create an account with admin privileges (I still haven't figured that one out) and then scripted it to make a ton of admin accounts, which have the perms to download everything. They also never actually deleted posts that were "deleted" through the app, they just changed the visibility bit to false. Meaning nothing was ever really deleted and people "verified" their accounts using their state issued ID's. It's just terrible all around.

The right move would have been to just shut it off once you realized your services vendors were dropping you. They didn't, now they'll pay the price.

Wudang · 11th January 2021, 08:54 AM

It's worth reading the twitter feed from https://twitter.com/donk_enby

Python script to create users at https://gist.github.com/d0nk/7251444...9cc69987070e21

Safe-Keeper · 11th January 2021, 09:02 AM

So when you say data dump, do you mean only users' posts and perhaps direct messages, or is it email addresses and other confidential user information?

Edit: looking through the twitter account now, apparently it's even location data.

cow_cat · 11th January 2021, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

So when you say data dump, do you mean only users' posts and perhaps direct messages, or is it email addresses and other confidential user information?

Edit: looking through the twitter account now, apparently it's even location data.

I put this in another Parler-related thread earlier today, it's probably better off here.

Originally Posted by cow_cat

Parler is a sloppily hacked together, joke of a social-media site which has so many security flaws, this just happened.

TL;DR, the entire Parler database, including deleted posts (which weren't actually deleted, just removed from public view), images and their metadata (locations, IP address of uploader etc), account information, and even verified account information has been downloaded and stored in various places online. How do you get a Parler verified account? You upload a copy of the front and back of your driver's license and link it to your account.

I won't link to the online copies of Parler's content, but I don't suppose that it's too difficult to find, should you be curious. There might be a bottleneck on downloading the data, as quite a few law enforcement agencies are probably downloading the information also. If you're wondering why the FBI were so quickly and easily able to populate the no-fly list and take into custody certain people, this is probably part of the reason why.

Congratulations to all involved.

So it appears that A LOT of user registration data are now out there, even down to the location, IP Address and maybe even MAC address associated with logins and pictures.

Oops...

plague311 · 11th January 2021, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by cow_cat

So it appears that A LOT of user registration data are now out there, even down to the location, IP Address and maybe even MAC address associated with logins and pictures.

Oops...

The MAC addresses might be tough unless Parler had it as part of the phone registration if you use the app. Network gateways discard layer 2 data as it's only really useful on a local network as far as routing goes.

The Great Zaganza · 11th January 2021, 09:23 AM

If I was a Conspiracy Nut, I might think that the FBI created Parler as a trap ...

cow_cat · 11th January 2021, 09:24 AM

I was wondering that while I was typing. I thought I saw something on a tweet earlier today mentioning MAC address information. I couldn't locate my source (and even if I could - it's twitter), so that's why I surrounded it with a "maybe". See - conditional language that completely absolves me of any wrongdoing, perceived or implied!

Even so, jpeg pictures tied to jpeg EXIF data tied to accounts tied to the front and back of driving licenses. Oops...

Safe-Keeper · 11th January 2021, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

If I was a Conspiracy Nut, I might think that the FBI created Parler as a trap ...

I'm not sure if that would even be such an outlandish CT. Not that I believe it in this case, but haven't they already done this to catch sexual predators, particularly those sharing images and videos of children?

Safe-Keeper · 11th January 2021, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by cow_cat

Parler is a sloppily hacked together, joke of a social-media site which has so many security flaws, this just happened.

A "sloppily hacked together joke" seems to describe the entire alt-right and gravy SEAL movement at the moment.

Wudang · 11th January 2021, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

If I was a Conspiracy Nut, I might think that the FBI created Parler as a trap ...

Nah, it's a corrolary to Hanlon's Law "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".

Upchurch · 11th January 2021, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

If I was a Conspiracy Nut, I might think that the FBI created Parler as a trap ...

If I were the FBI and Parler was my trap, I would have kept the doors open as long as possible. Certainly until after the inauguration and at least to for a good period of time after to try to catch more terrorist plans in the works.

31st December 2020, 12:05 PM	#1
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31st December 2020, 12:09 PM	#2
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 13,539	Originally Posted by William Parcher I'm seeing references to Parler but I don't know what it is. Seems like another new social media thing. I gather it is an uncensored Facebook kind of thing. Kind of like the 4chan of social media. White supremacists took a fancy to it when FB gave them the boot. Parler means 'to talk' in French IIRC.
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31st December 2020, 12:14 PM	#3
Cavemonster Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 6,538	A new social media space in reaction to what some on the right view as censorship by Facebook and Twitter. It's meant to be a place of greater freedom. Voat was a similar "anything goes" space. In that case, the wild west lack of rules made it a haven for the more toxic side of things, which lost them any more mainstream users who wandered over and got turned off, leaving the remaining discussion to get even more toxic. I expect Parler will either experience a similar effect or they'll exercise some restrictions or moderation while arguing about how theirs are different. Over on Reddit, the conservative subreddits tend to be both incredibly vocal about the evils of social media moderation as a violation of free speech. They also tend to be the most moderated spaces. r/conservative has about half of their threads limited to confirmed conservatives.
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31st December 2020, 12:37 PM	#4
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,770	I didn't think it was something I'm interested in. I don't even do Facebook, so no thanks for this one. I was just curious. Uncensored can be really ugly.
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31st December 2020, 12:45 PM	#5
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31st December 2020, 01:37 PM	#6
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31st December 2020, 04:15 PM	#7
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,066	Originally Posted by Cavemonster A new social media space in reaction to what some on the right view as censorship by Facebook and Twitter. It's meant to be a place of greater freedom. Voat was a similar "anything goes" space. In that case, the wild west lack of rules made it a haven for the more toxic side of things, which lost them any more mainstream users who wandered over and got turned off, leaving the remaining discussion to get even more toxic. I expect Parler will either experience a similar effect or they'll exercise some restrictions or moderation while arguing about how theirs are different. Over on Reddit, the conservative subreddits tend to be both incredibly vocal about the evils of social media moderation as a violation of free speech. They also tend to be the most moderated spaces. r/conservative has about half of their threads limited to confirmed conservatives. You have the freedom to express any far right idiocy you like on Parler. The slightest hint of liberalism will get you banned right quick.
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31st December 2020, 08:21 PM	#8
TJM Potsing Whiled Runk Tagger Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 21,642	From the Nashville Bombing thread, some comments from the Parler braintrust: Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B Seen on Twitter: I'm in awe of the towering intellect on display.
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1st January 2021, 12:36 AM	#9
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 16,820	Originally Posted by AJM8125 From the Nashville Bombing thread, some comments from the Parler braintrust: I'm in awe of the towering intellect on display. Oh, not to mention the extraordinary level of literacy! "blue up the building" "a escape goat" "domino machine"
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1st January 2021, 05:12 PM	#10
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 25,770	Originally Posted by AJM8125 From the Nashville Bombing thread, some comments from the Parler braintrust: I'm in awe of the towering intellect on display. That sure isn't any mainstream chatting.
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5th January 2021, 09:57 AM	#11
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 8,478	Originally Posted by smartcooky Oh, not to mention the extraordinary level of literacy! "blue up the building" "a escape goat" "domino machine" I keep my escape goat in the garage behind the freezer. Still no one has found it.
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5th January 2021, 10:34 AM	#12
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,891	Originally Posted by plague311 I keep my escape goat in the garage behind the freezer. Still no one has found it. The Escape GOAT, of course, is nothing other than The Amazing Randi. (OK, maybe after Houdini...)
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5th January 2021, 10:41 AM	#13
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6th January 2021, 01:54 PM	#14
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 8,478	Originally Posted by alfaniner The Escape GOAT, of course, is nothing other than The Amazing Randi. (OK, maybe after Houdini...) It took me 3 reads to figure this out. I like it!
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6th January 2021, 02:00 PM	#15
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,891	Originally Posted by plague311 It took me 3 reads to figure this out. I like it!
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10th January 2021, 08:26 AM	#16
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10th January 2021, 08:40 AM	#17
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10th January 2021, 09:07 AM	#18
Ron Obvious Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 454	"Escape Goat" I've heard a few times before, but what is a "Domino Machine"? I tried saying it out loud and didn't figure it out. Deux Ex Machina? What?
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10th January 2021, 10:21 AM	#19
TJM Potsing Whiled Runk Tagger Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 21,642	Originally Posted by Ron Obvious "Escape Goat" I've heard a few times before, but what is a "Domino Machine"? I tried saying it out loud and didn't figure it out. Deux Ex Machina? What? Dominion vote counting machines, the ones which stole the election.
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10th January 2021, 10:24 AM	#20
Ron Obvious Critical Thinker Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 454	Originally Posted by AJM8125 Dominion vote counting machines, the ones which stole the election. Ah, duh! Thanks!
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11th January 2021, 04:04 AM	#21
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11th January 2021, 05:17 AM	#22
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11th January 2021, 05:29 AM	#23
malbui Beauf Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,781	Originally Posted by Wudang For a moment I thought they meant Lotus Domino servers. Thanks for bringing on my PTSD.
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11th January 2021, 08:29 AM	#25
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11th January 2021, 08:31 AM	#26
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,501	Thanks cow_cat. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1785343.html Quote: ‘There is nothing you can do to prevent what’s already happened. All you can do is prepare for the fallout’ a message from the North Central Florida Patriots Telegram chat reads. As the saying goes: oh look it's the consequences of your actions. Estimates seem to differ between 70 and 80 TB of data.
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11th January 2021, 08:33 AM	#27
DuvalHMFIC Graduate Poster Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,558	Originally Posted by Cavemonster A new social media space in reaction to what some on the right view as censorship by Facebook and Twitter. It's meant to be a place of greater freedom. Voat was a similar "anything goes" space. In that case, the wild west lack of rules made it a haven for the more toxic side of things, which lost them any more mainstream users who wandered over and got turned off, leaving the remaining discussion to get even more toxic. I expect Parler will either experience a similar effect or they'll exercise some restrictions or moderation while arguing about how theirs are different. Over on Reddit, the conservative subreddits tend to be both incredibly vocal about the evils of social media moderation as a violation of free speech. They also tend to be the most moderated spaces. r/conservative has about half of their threads limited to confirmed conservatives. I don't even think you can post on r/conservative until you give yourself flair showing off your political leanings. This makes it much easier for them to steer the narrative.
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11th January 2021, 08:36 AM	#28
Jack by the hedge Safely Ignored Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,892	Assuming this is real, but if not it would also work as an amazing prank, if one wanted to troll those charming consequence-free speech advocates into abandoning parler.

11th January 2021, 08:42 AM	#29
cow_cat Mr. Parodied Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Between the Sun and the Stars Posts: 1,947	Originally Posted by Wudang Thanks cow_cat. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b1785343.html As the saying goes: oh look it's the consequences of your actions. Estimates seem to differ between 70 and 80 TB of data. The people behind this "archiving" are the real heroes. I am now rather glad I resisted my baser instincts to create a Parler account for the purposes of "trOllZing tEh maGaZ". Parler is now offline, and it looks like nobody is interested in hosting it or being involved in it anymore. This is being discussed in a few places - here and here. I wonder if a merge is in order.
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11th January 2021, 08:47 AM	#30
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 8,478	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle Truly taking the democratization of free speech seriously by letting anyone be an admin. In their defense, they were really terrible at programming, network security, and data encryption, but if it helps, they also lost their services so fast I don't think they had a chance. From what I've read in a few spots, it sounds like their 2FA and email verification provider stopped providing them the service. This meant accounts could be created without any registration process at all. Someone used that to figure out how to create an account with admin privileges (I still haven't figured that one out) and then scripted it to make a ton of admin accounts, which have the perms to download everything. They also never actually deleted posts that were "deleted" through the app, they just changed the visibility bit to false. Meaning nothing was ever really deleted and people "verified" their accounts using their state issued ID's. It's just terrible all around. The right move would have been to just shut it off once you realized your services vendors were dropping you. They didn't, now they'll pay the price.
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11th January 2021, 08:54 AM	#31
Wudang BOFH Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: People's Republic of South Yorkshire Posts: 13,501	It's worth reading the twitter feed from https://twitter.com/donk_enby Python script to create users at https://gist.github.com/d0nk/7251444...9cc69987070e21
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11th January 2021, 09:02 AM	#32
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,395	So when you say data dump, do you mean only users' posts and perhaps direct messages, or is it email addresses and other confidential user information? Edit: looking through the twitter account now, apparently it's even location data.
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11th January 2021, 09:07 AM	#33
cow_cat Mr. Parodied Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Between the Sun and the Stars Posts: 1,947	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper So when you say data dump, do you mean only users' posts and perhaps direct messages, or is it email addresses and other confidential user information? Edit: looking through the twitter account now, apparently it's even location data. I put this in another Parler-related thread earlier today, it's probably better off here. Originally Posted by cow_cat Parler is a sloppily hacked together, joke of a social-media site which has so many security flaws, this just happened. TL;DR, the entire Parler database, including deleted posts (which weren't actually deleted, just removed from public view), images and their metadata (locations, IP address of uploader etc), account information, and even verified account information has been downloaded and stored in various places online. How do you get a Parler verified account? You upload a copy of the front and back of your driver's license and link it to your account. I won't link to the online copies of Parler's content, but I don't suppose that it's too difficult to find, should you be curious. There might be a bottleneck on downloading the data, as quite a few law enforcement agencies are probably downloading the information also. If you're wondering why the FBI were so quickly and easily able to populate the no-fly list and take into custody certain people, this is probably part of the reason why. Congratulations to all involved. So it appears that A LOT of user registration data are now out there, even down to the location, IP Address and maybe even MAC address associated with logins and pictures. Oops...
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11th January 2021, 09:17 AM	#34
plague311 Great minds think... Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North Dakota Posts: 8,478	Originally Posted by cow_cat So it appears that A LOT of user registration data are now out there, even down to the location, IP Address and maybe even MAC address associated with logins and pictures. Oops... The MAC addresses might be tough unless Parler had it as part of the phone registration if you use the app. Network gateways discard layer 2 data as it's only really useful on a local network as far as routing goes.
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11th January 2021, 09:23 AM	#35
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,683	If I was a Conspiracy Nut, I might think that the FBI created Parler as a trap ...
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11th January 2021, 09:24 AM	#36
cow_cat Mr. Parodied Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Between the Sun and the Stars Posts: 1,947	I was wondering that while I was typing. I thought I saw something on a tweet earlier today mentioning MAC address information. I couldn't locate my source (and even if I could - it's twitter), so that's why I surrounded it with a "maybe". See - conditional language that completely absolves me of any wrongdoing, perceived or implied! Even so, jpeg pictures tied to jpeg EXIF data tied to accounts tied to the front and back of driving licenses. Oops...
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