2020 Congressional Election - Page 8

Firestone · 8th January 2021, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

Pretty remarkable shift in just two months, because Perdue missed the 50 % direct win threshold in the first round by only about 15k votes.

Yep, I am the record that Dems won't win either of the two seats in Georgia.
Never was I so glad to be so wrong about something.

On the flip side, Ossoff's election to the US Senate at the age of 33 is a nightmare for every Jewish boy now. "What, you're only a lawyer with 1.000.000 $/year at 34, Simon? Ossoff sat in the f- Senate before that!, oy vey!"

Dr. Keith · 8th January 2021, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by timhau

Pretty remarkable shift in just two months, because Perdue missed the 50 % direct win threshold in the first round by only about 15k votes.

That was before Trump came to town to help him campaign.

dirtywick · 8th January 2021, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Yep, I am the record that Dems won't win either of the two seats in Georgia.
Never was I so glad to be so wrong about something.

On the flip side, Ossoff's election to the US Senate at the age of 33 is a nightmare for every Jewish boy now. "What, you're only a lawyer with 1.000.000 $/year at 34, Simon? Ossoff sat in the f- Senate before that!, oy vey!"

I would have agreed in early nov, though loeffler was fairly vulnerable. but a lot changed since then

Firestone · 8th January 2021, 01:11 PM

Perdue has conceded.

In his concession statement, he manages not to mention the name of the next Senator, Jon Ossoff.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29D2SM

Quote:

A source with Jon Ossoff’s campaign confirms to CNN that Senator David Perdue did not call Jon Ossoff to concede, instead releasing a paper statement today that did not name the new Democratic Senator-elect by name.

https://twitter.com/holmescnn/status...983458817?s=19

dudalb · 8th January 2021, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Yep, I am the record that Dems won't win either of the two seats in Georgia.
Never was I so glad to be so wrong about something.

On the flip side, Ossoff's election to the US Senate at the age of 33 is a nightmare for every Jewish boy now. "What, you're only a lawyer with 1.000.000 $/year at 34, Simon? Ossoff sat in the f- Senate before that!, oy vey!"

The GOP refrained from pulling out the Anti Semitism this time, they won't the next time.

thaiboxerken · 10th January 2021, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Perdue has conceded.

In his concession statement, he manages not to mention the name of the next Senator, Jon Ossoff.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29D2SM

Republicans are the sorest losers ever. It's become the party of bullies who turn into cry-babies when they don't get their way.

Firestone · 10th January 2021, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Republicans are the sorest losers ever. It's become the party of bullies who turn into cry-babies when they don't get their way.

Indeed.

And it has dark roots in US history.
A chilling opinion on Politico: Wake Up, America. This Is Who We Are

Quote:

For at least three decades, Americans have watched one incident after another of democratic backsliding and hoped, similarly, that these moments don’t represent who we are. There was the movement to delegitimize Barack Obama based on a false claim about where he was born. There were the Republican state legislators in North Carolina and Wisconsin who stripped constitutional and statutory powers from incoming Democratic governors. Earlier this week, there was the GOP-controlled state Senate in Pennsylvania that simply refused to seat a duly elected Democratic member, using its procedural powers to block the decision of the voters.

In the longer arc of history, these backslides aren’t an aberration at all. In fact, they’re quintessentially American, with roots in one of the deepest divisions in American politics, the conflict over race and power. Since the nation’s founding, a large portion of white citizens have embraced free and democratic elections only when the political system did not require them to share power with people of color.

This toxic current has shifted over the years. It was once the province of Democrats, and now it lives squarely in the GOP. The geography has changed, too. This used to be a uniquely Southern problem, but demographic changes over the past several decades — creating a realignment that has rendered the Republican Party more homogeneous and the Democratic Party more diverse — have made it national. What hasn’t changed is the underlying pattern, the one growing stronger in today’s Republican Party: a stubborn, and increasingly dangerous, contempt for the will of anyone’s voters but their own.

smartcooky · 11th January 2021, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Indeed.

And it has dark roots in US history.
A chilling opinion on Politico: Wake Up, America. This Is Who We Are

A very apt way of expressing it!!

PhantomWolf · 11th January 2021, 10:06 PM

Because this got rather over-shadowed by recent events:

Final results:

Ossoff (D) +55k votes won by 1.2%

Warnock (D) +93K votes won by 2.0%

The Don · 12th January 2021, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Because this got rather over-shadowed by recent events:

Final results:

Ossoff (D) +55k votes won by 1.2%

Warnock (D) +93K votes won by 2.0%

Yeah, but once the illegally case votes are stripped out, the GOP candidates won bigly.

Have both GOP candidates conceded ?

Are they challenging the results in the courts ?

Firestone · 12th January 2021, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Yeah, but once the illegally case votes are stripped out, the GOP candidates won bigly.

Obviously.

Also, they would have lost by 20% if Trump hadn't tirelessly campaigned for them.

Originally Posted by The Don

Have both GOP candidates conceded ?

Yes. Not with class, but they did.

Originally Posted by The Don

Are they challenging the results in the courts ?

No.

Firestone · 19th January 2021, 11:33 AM

Georgia certifies the Senate runoff results. https://results.enr.clarityelections...4614/#/summary

Ossoff and Warnock to be sworn in tomorrow by VP Harris.

Puppycow · 20th January 2021, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by PhantomWolf

Because this got rather over-shadowed by recent events:

Final results:

Ossoff (D) +55k votes won by 1.2%

Warnock (D) +93K votes won by 2.0%

Both of those margins are considerably wider than the margin by which Biden beat Trump.

FWIW, 4,999,960 people in Georgia voted in the Presidential election (including those who voted for other candidates) and 4,484,902 and 4,484,954 voted in the senate runoffs. A bit more than half a million fewer. But in the past, the lower turnout tended to favor Republicans. This time, the margin increased in favor of Democrats.

JoeMorgue · 21st January 2021, 01:39 PM

Congratulations to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont) for being the first person to have the Joker hold a knife to his face in a Batman movie to be elected to President Pro Tempore of the Senate.

Skeptic Ginger · 26th January 2021, 09:42 PM

This post is about progress in the Senate and it's a whole new day in this country. Feeling happy Trump is gone got lost for me and I want it back.

Looking at the current COVID death count for the day (>4,000), and the total that Trump is responsible for... > 425,000 people.... this is so sad.

I was happy when Trump finally left. Then I was preoccupied with eBay dropping PayPal and a bunch of stuff related to it made a mess for me. I almost have it straightened out. And I'm not stressed by it now.

Then I was furious that McConnell might still have the Senate hogtied. I'm not sure exactly what happened with the 60 Senator rule but both Rachel Maddow and Schumer were pleased. Schumer announced all the Democratic Senators in charge of all the committees. The deadlock McConnell was clinging to was over.

It's been reported that there won't be the delays like they were in the Obama's first 2 years. Schumer and Biden look to be moving quickly to get this country back on track. Schumer's convinced the Democrats can pass legislation which people will see immediate results from, unlike the ACA which took time for people to see the results.

C SPAN: Majority Leader Schumer Says Budget Resolution Vote Could Come Next Week

Quote:

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announces that he has informed party colleagues to be prepared for a vote on a Budget Resolution as early as next week in order to take up a COVID relief package. The move would ensure that such the package could pass with 51 votes following Senate consideration.

I'm happy again. Hopefully I'll stay that way. The POTUS and the Congress have a huge job in front of them. And there is still a big Trump faction in Congress, more in the House than the Senate I hope. The next few weeks will be wonderful or a nightmare. Or a bit of both if we figure in the COVID death count.

8th January 2021, 05:38 AM	#281
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,995	Originally Posted by timhau Pretty remarkable shift in just two months, because Perdue missed the 50 % direct win threshold in the first round by only about 15k votes. Yep, I am the record that Dems won't win either of the two seats in Georgia. Never was I so glad to be so wrong about something. On the flip side, Ossoff's election to the US Senate at the age of 33 is a nightmare for every Jewish boy now. "What, you're only a lawyer with 1.000.000 $/year at 34, Simon? Ossoff sat in the f- Senate before that!, oy vey!"
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8th January 2021, 12:56 PM	#282
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 22,488	Originally Posted by timhau Pretty remarkable shift in just two months, because Perdue missed the 50 % direct win threshold in the first round by only about 15k votes. That was before Trump came to town to help him campaign.
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8th January 2021, 01:10 PM	#283
dirtywick Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,121	Originally Posted by Firestone Yep, I am the record that Dems won't win either of the two seats in Georgia. Never was I so glad to be so wrong about something. On the flip side, Ossoff's election to the US Senate at the age of 33 is a nightmare for every Jewish boy now. "What, you're only a lawyer with 1.000.000 $/year at 34, Simon? Ossoff sat in the f- Senate before that!, oy vey!" I would have agreed in early nov, though loeffler was fairly vulnerable. but a lot changed since then
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8th January 2021, 01:11 PM	#284
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,995	Perdue has conceded. In his concession statement, he manages not to mention the name of the next Senator, Jon Ossoff. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29D2SM Quote: A source with Jon Ossoff’s campaign confirms to CNN that Senator David Perdue did not call Jon Ossoff to concede, instead releasing a paper statement today that did not name the new Democratic Senator-elect by name. https://twitter.com/holmescnn/status...983458817?s=19
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8th January 2021, 01:17 PM	#285
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by Firestone Yep, I am the record that Dems won't win either of the two seats in Georgia. Never was I so glad to be so wrong about something. On the flip side, Ossoff's election to the US Senate at the age of 33 is a nightmare for every Jewish boy now. "What, you're only a lawyer with 1.000.000 $/year at 34, Simon? Ossoff sat in the f- Senate before that!, oy vey!" The GOP refrained from pulling out the Anti Semitism this time, they won't the next time.
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10th January 2021, 11:37 AM	#286
thaiboxerken Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 31,706	Originally Posted by Firestone Perdue has conceded. In his concession statement, he manages not to mention the name of the next Senator, Jon Ossoff. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN29D2SM Republicans are the sorest losers ever. It's become the party of bullies who turn into cry-babies when they don't get their way.
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10th January 2021, 12:05 PM	#287
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,995	Originally Posted by thaiboxerken Republicans are the sorest losers ever. It's become the party of bullies who turn into cry-babies when they don't get their way. Indeed. And it has dark roots in US history. A chilling opinion on Politico: Wake Up, America. This Is Who We Are Quote: For at least three decades, Americans have watched one incident after another of democratic backsliding and hoped, similarly, that these moments don’t represent who we are. There was the movement to delegitimize Barack Obama based on a false claim about where he was born. There were the Republican state legislators in North Carolina and Wisconsin who stripped constitutional and statutory powers from incoming Democratic governors. Earlier this week, there was the GOP-controlled state Senate in Pennsylvania that simply refused to seat a duly elected Democratic member, using its procedural powers to block the decision of the voters. In the longer arc of history, these backslides aren’t an aberration at all. In fact, they’re quintessentially American, with roots in one of the deepest divisions in American politics, the conflict over race and power. Since the nation’s founding, a large portion of white citizens have embraced free and democratic elections only when the political system did not require them to share power with people of color. This toxic current has shifted over the years. It was once the province of Democrats, and now it lives squarely in the GOP. The geography has changed, too. This used to be a uniquely Southern problem, but demographic changes over the past several decades — creating a realignment that has rendered the Republican Party more homogeneous and the Democratic Party more diverse — have made it national. What hasn’t changed is the underlying pattern, the one growing stronger in today’s Republican Party: a stubborn, and increasingly dangerous, contempt for the will of anyone’s voters but their own.
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11th January 2021, 04:17 AM	#288
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 16,786	Originally Posted by Firestone Indeed. And it has dark roots in US history. A chilling opinion on Politico: Wake Up, America. This Is Who We Are A very apt way of expressing it!!
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11th January 2021, 10:06 PM	#289
PhantomWolf Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 20,278	Because this got rather over-shadowed by recent events: Final results: Ossoff (D) +55k votes won by 1.2% Warnock (D) +93K votes won by 2.0%
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12th January 2021, 01:52 AM	#290
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,342	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Because this got rather over-shadowed by recent events: Final results: Ossoff (D) +55k votes won by 1.2% Warnock (D) +93K votes won by 2.0% Yeah, but once the illegally case votes are stripped out, the GOP candidates won bigly. Have both GOP candidates conceded ? Are they challenging the results in the courts ?

12th January 2021, 01:57 AM	#291
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,995	Originally Posted by The Don Yeah, but once the illegally case votes are stripped out, the GOP candidates won bigly. Obviously. Also, they would have lost by 20% if Trump hadn't tirelessly campaigned for them. Originally Posted by The Don Have both GOP candidates conceded ? Yes. Not with class, but they did. Originally Posted by The Don Are they challenging the results in the courts ? No.
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19th January 2021, 11:33 AM	#292
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,995	Georgia certifies the Senate runoff results. https://results.enr.clarityelections...4614/#/summary Ossoff and Warnock to be sworn in tomorrow by VP Harris.
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20th January 2021, 02:45 AM	#293
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 25,738	Originally Posted by PhantomWolf Because this got rather over-shadowed by recent events: Final results: Ossoff (D) +55k votes won by 1.2% Warnock (D) +93K votes won by 2.0% Both of those margins are considerably wider than the margin by which Biden beat Trump. FWIW, 4,999,960 people in Georgia voted in the Presidential election (including those who voted for other candidates) and 4,484,902 and 4,484,954 voted in the senate runoffs. A bit more than half a million fewer. But in the past, the lower turnout tended to favor Republicans. This time, the margin increased in favor of Democrats.
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21st January 2021, 01:39 PM	#294
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26th January 2021, 09:42 PM	#295
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,877	This post is about progress in the Senate and it's a whole new day in this country. Feeling happy Trump is gone got lost for me and I want it back. Looking at the current COVID death count for the day (>4,000), and the total that Trump is responsible for... > 425,000 people.... this is so sad. I was happy when Trump finally left. Then I was preoccupied with eBay dropping PayPal and a bunch of stuff related to it made a mess for me. I almost have it straightened out. And I'm not stressed by it now. Then I was furious that McConnell might still have the Senate hogtied. I'm not sure exactly what happened with the 60 Senator rule but both Rachel Maddow and Schumer were pleased. Schumer announced all the Democratic Senators in charge of all the committees. The deadlock McConnell was clinging to was over. It's been reported that there won't be the delays like they were in the Obama's first 2 years. Schumer and Biden look to be moving quickly to get this country back on track. Schumer's convinced the Democrats can pass legislation which people will see immediate results from, unlike the ACA which took time for people to see the results. C SPAN: Majority Leader Schumer Says Budget Resolution Vote Could Come Next Week Quote: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer announces that he has informed party colleagues to be prepared for a vote on a Budget Resolution as early as next week in order to take up a COVID relief package. The move would ensure that such the package could pass with 51 votes following Senate consideration. I'm happy again. Hopefully I'll stay that way. The POTUS and the Congress have a huge job in front of them. And there is still a big Trump faction in Congress, more in the House than the Senate I hope. The next few weeks will be wonderful or a nightmare. Or a bit of both if we figure in the COVID death count.
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