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Old 13th January 2021, 11:50 AM   #601
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Originally Posted by ponderingturtle View Post
Oh that is a serious issue but they also need to be able to function with less than a full house.
The House is full, people are just going "Nope, not voting."

That's the problem.

There's a difference between taking a sick day and just going into work and going "Nope I've decided I won't work today."

And 100% vote on impeachment is something we should be able to demand.
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Old 13th January 2021, 11:50 AM   #602
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
"There is no excuse for President Trump's actions. Others, including myself, are responsible for not speaking out sooner — before the President misinformed and inflamed a violent mob." - Republican Rep. Dan Newhouse.

Good. More of you need to say that.
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Honestly, at this point, I think I may start just laughing at people that complain about "cancel culture." For a bit of start, though, it's well worth considering the points made in Time on the subject. Going further than that, though, the sheer audacity of Trump supporters to rage against "cancel culture" is sorta incredible. Where's all that outrage when right-wing radio hosts were literally being fired in the middle of their broadcasts for offering any criticism towards Trump? I certainly didn't hear a hint of it. Where's their outrage at the eminently predictable FLOODs of death threats towards those who break with Trump and those who Trump attacks? That sure seems to have become pretty much standard tactics on the right. There's so much more that could be poked at, really, but meh. It's just the usual situation of the right attempting to claim a moral high ground and preach at the left about the splinter in their eye while refusing to acknowledge or do anything about the friggin' log in their own eye.

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We had a thread on here about “cancel culture”, turned out it was simply what the rich and powerful had always been doing to their “opponents”. It is an attempt to create a new strawman akin to how the right created the “political correct” strawman.
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Old 13th January 2021, 11:52 AM   #604
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Rep. Boebert is insane. She's comparing apples and oranges. None of those calls to violence against Trump she quotes from the "hypocritical left" were from members of Congress, they were from private citizens. What stupid woman.

HAPPY IMPEACHMENT V2 DAY!
It's between Boebert and Taylor Greene for the "most batcrap crazy member of the House".
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Old 13th January 2021, 11:52 AM   #605
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At least 6 Republicans in the House will vote to impeach Trump.
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Old 13th January 2021, 11:56 AM   #606
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Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell will not consent to reconvening the Senate on Friday under emergency authorities, delaying the start of President Trump's likely impeachment trial until Jan. 19 at the earliest, McConnell's team confirmed to Axios.
So, anyone who was skeptical of the claim that "McConnell really wants to hate trump and is in favor of impeachment" were right...

Moscow Mitch doesn't really care about "removing Trump". I suspect he just wants to drag the impeachment out to interfere with the confirmation of Biden's cabinet.
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Old 13th January 2021, 11:57 AM   #607
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Trump statement:

"In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind. That is not what I stand for, and it is not what America stands for. I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You."

Fits in a tweet, by the way.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/13...869038594?s=19
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:25 PM   #608
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Again the idea the Senators can just... like not vote is already stupid to me. I mean that's literally your job.

The idea that they can't do it during an impeachment is worse.

When you're a member of Congress and the decision is on this level, you shouldn't get to stay in the corner.
I kind of agree. This is a possible strategy that allows them not to vote on a controversial issue. It's a possibility, but it is also not very likely for the reason you mention. I sincerely doubt they will avail themselves to this out.
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:26 PM   #609
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
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When a Republican says "impeachment is divisive" it's the same as when an abusive spouse tells you that if you leave or call the cops, you're the one tearing the family apart.
From Twitter.
Well put. I wanted to throw something at the TV when Kevin McCarthy went on about how an impeachment would only further divide the country and how we need to come together in unity now. This coming from the man who has been one of the largest megaphones spreading the "election fraud" message and done everything he can to aid and abet Trump including signing on to that ridiculous TX lawsuit and voting to object to the certification of the election on Jan. 6th. So NOW he wants to stop the divisiveness that he is a major cause of?
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:32 PM   #610
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And yes...Marjorie Taylor Greene continues to prove she is just as stupid as we think she is.
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:36 PM   #611
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
Trump statement:

"In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind. That is not what I stand for, and it is not what America stands for. I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You."

Fits in a tweet, by the way.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/13...869038594?s=19
Anyone else think that wasn't Trump?
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:38 PM   #612
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Anyone else think that wasn't Trump?
No way that was him. Zero chance.
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:41 PM   #613
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
Trump statement:

"In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind. That is not what I stand for, and it is not what America stands for. I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You."

Fits in a tweet, by the way.

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/13...869038594?s=19
Wasn't there a *wink* at the end of that, in the original?
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:46 PM   #614
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
And yes...Marjorie Taylor Greene continues to prove she is just as stupid as we think she is.
That does it. Taylor Green and Boebert are neck in neck for biggest idiot in the House competition.
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:47 PM   #615
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Originally Posted by chrispy View Post
No way that was him. Zero chance.
Written by a PR hack.
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Old 13th January 2021, 12:50 PM   #616
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Anyone else think that wasn't Trump?
Originally Posted by chrispy View Post
No way that was him. Zero chance.
The all-caps were used "correctly". Punctuation OK. Use of multi-syllable words spelled correctly and in cogent grammatical order. And a totally un-Trump-like sentiment.

Agreed. Not Diaper Don at all. Probably didn't even see this. Guessing it's by his (last remaining) lawyer.
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Some GOP COngresswoemn from Tennesee just played the Antifa card and then dragged in God.
Typical Chriso Fascist.
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Old 13th January 2021, 01:02 PM   #618
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The behind the scenes scuttlebutt (as always take with a grain of salt) is that unlike the last impeachment is that McConnell isn't pushing nearly as hard for the GOP to be a "single" voice and encouraging Senators to just vote how they want.

I half wonder if something similar changed in the House. If the "We all have to speak as one" thing is less pronounced this time.
That's because Mitch has his pro-corporate judges in, and if they also toss out abortion rights, marriage equality, Brown vs. Board, and so forth, he simply does not care.

Again, he is the single worst person in US politics today.
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The all-caps were used "correctly". Punctuation OK. Use of multi-syllable words spelled correctly and in cogent grammatical order. And a totally un-Trump-like sentiment.

Agreed. Not Diaper Don at all. Probably didn't even see this. Guessing it's by his (last remaining) lawyer.
And the style of the PR is so bland. Sure sign a hack wrote it.
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McConnell has said he wouldn't agree to reconvening early

He said he would vote to convict.
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ANohter moron from the South accusing the Dems of being the real violent ones.
I am beginning to be really prejudiced against Southerners.
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Good God, I really ******* hate Republicans.
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Old 13th January 2021, 01:07 PM   #623
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ANohter moron from the South accusing the Dems of being the real violent ones.
I am beginning to be really prejudiced against Southerners.
We're not all mouth breathing morons but unfortunately we do have our fair share.
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McConnell has said he wouldn't agree to reconvening early

He said he would vote to convict.

I see Mitch's strategy is deestroy Trump politically. He thinks removing from him office might make Donnie a Matry, but letting his term run out and later vote to impeach and then ban him from holding ofice.
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A GOP congressmen accused Peolsi of inciting violence and playing the Antifa card and is proclaming the virtues of DOnald J Trump. Another loyal follower of Dear Leader.
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Would McConnell have any reason to fear a brief Pence presidency? I can't think of one, but maybe I'm missing something.
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McConnell has said he wouldn't agree to reconvening early

He said he would vote to convict.
I see Mitch's strategy is deestroy Trump politically. He thinks removing from him office might make Donnie a Matry, but letting his term run out and later vote to impeach and then ban him from holding ofice.
Or... Moscow Mitch wants to harm the Democrats, and having a delay and holding impeachment proceedings in the senate at the same time that Biden is trying to get a cabinet confirmed, deal with covid relief, etc, is one way to do that.
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Would McConnell have any reason to fear a brief Pence presidency? I can't think of one, but maybe I'm missing something.
I think it's more Mitch thinks it be easier to get GOP votes to convict after Trump is out of office then when he in office. Mitch's real objective is to purge Donnie from the GOP.
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https://youtu.be/OpZ8EkK3eWY
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...100% vote on impeachment is something we should be able to demand.
Why demand it, though? The boycott stratagem described in the OP yields better results for all involved.

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I see Mitch's strategy is deestroy Trump politically. He thinks removing from him office might make Donnie a Matry, but letting his term run out and later vote to impeach and then ban him from holding ofice.
McConnell was just reelected to 6 more years in the Senate. He really has nothing to lose at this point. He lost his position as Senate Majority leader. I'm wondering if he might now lose being Senate Minority leader.
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McConnell was just reelected to 6 more years in the Senate. He really has nothing to lose at this point. He lost his position as Senate Majority leader. I'm wondering if he might now lose being Senate Minority leader.

The GOP calling for healing reminds me of Hiimmler's statement, in the last days of the third reich, in his inept attempt to negotiae a seperate peace with the Western Allies, , that the Germans and the Jews "should bury the Hatchet".
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
The all-caps were used "correctly". Punctuation OK. Use of multi-syllable words spelled correctly and in cogent grammatical order. And a totally un-Trump-like sentiment.

Agreed. Not Diaper Don at all. Probably didn't even see this. Guessing it's by his (last remaining) lawyer.
If Donnie did not write that, which I don't think he did, it should not be allowed at the Senate trial to be presented as if he did. His lack of trying to mitigate any further violence would be yet more proof of his guilt.
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Would McConnell have any reason to fear a brief Pence presidency? I can't think of one, but maybe I'm missing something.
A Trump pardon.
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McConnell has said he wouldn't agree to reconvening early

He said he would vote to convict.
Without even seeing the charge ?
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I think it's more Mitch thinks it be easier to get GOP votes to convict after Trump is out of office then when he in office. Mitch's real objective is to purge Donnie from the GOP.
Exactly. Also, the Senate will have more Democrat senators so less Republican votes will be needed.
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The GOP calling for healing reminds me of Hiimmler's statement, in the last days of the third reich, in his inept attempt to negotiae a seperate peace with the Western Allies, , that the Germans and the Jews "should bury the Hatchet".
... firmly between the shoulder blades of the Germans?
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Or this is a "On no please don't throw me in the Briar Patch" moment and Mitch is counting on legal battles determining that you can't impeach a President after they leave office.

Again a LOT of this is still uncharted territory. Mitch could argue that the impeachment process becomes null/void after Trump lives office. At least a few high level judges have expressed that opinion.

What if Mitch already knows that the Conservative Supreme Court will just throw out an impeachment after Trump leaves office?

//Note. I'm not saying that's the only or most likely scenario, only that it would be foolish to completely ignore it.//
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McConnell has said he wouldn't agree to reconvening early

He said he would vote to convict.
I can't see getting a conviction before Jan. 20 even if this was greased to the skids.
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I don't know how it works. Is there going to be a vote today on impeachment? Will we know today if it happens, or tomorrow, or what?
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