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One must never overlook the possibility of agent provocateure.
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I think he's most likely talking about Twitter, Apple and Amazon. They're kicking Trump and his CHUDs off their platforms, so in his mind they're suppressing their freedom of speech. He doesn't realize that those privately owned platforms can decide who can and can't use them, without amounting to a violation of their free speech rights. If someone goes into a restaurant and makes a mess, harasses other patrons and damages the furniture, if the owner tells him he's not welcome back, he isn't suppressing his right to food.
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Counterbalance in the little town of Ridgeview, Ohio. Two people permanently enslaved by the tyranny of fear and superstitution, facing the future with a kind of helpless dread. Two others facing the future with confidence - having escaped one of the darker places of the Twilight Zone. |
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No joke. That's certainly fair. And just because none have actually been found so far (all those reactively identified by some Trumper websites as "antifa" have proven not to be) doesn't mean none were there.
But here's the problem with that. Nobody held a gun to Trump supporters' heads and made them follow any handful of "provocateurs". No one or two people attacking the police made the entire crowd turn on the police en masse. Nobody forced them into the Capitol Building, and nobody forced them to chance "Hang Mike Pence" while they were doing it. |
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Counterbalance in the little town of Ridgeview, Ohio. Two people permanently enslaved by the tyranny of fear and superstitution, facing the future with a kind of helpless dread. Two others facing the future with confidence - having escaped one of the darker places of the Twilight Zone. |
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Maybe Agents Provocouture... the latest in infiltrator fashions.
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I read a comic decades ago in which the main character was visiting a stereotypical Banana Republic. At one point, a pair of armed guerillas charged out of the jungle to attack government troops. "Pig insurgents!!" "Resurgents." "What?" "They were the insurgents last week. This week we're the insurgents and they're the resurgents." "Oh. Pig resurgents!!" |
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Agreed. There are reasons to suspect Antifa agents...the guy smashing the window (where the women got shot) was also filmed agitating the crowd immediately after, and then it looks like he goes to his backpack a few steps away and changes clothes, maybe. But thats not clear. https://www.theepochtimes.com/video-...o_3652783.html |
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Positively Hegelian...
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Are there any journalistic efforts underway to see what percentage of those arrested or being sought are legitimate Trump supporters? Don't shoot me. I'm just trying to be a good skeptic and look for evidence.
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I've been asking my Facebook friends why Trump was so easy to dupe if it was antifa that invaded the capitol. Trump did say he loved the rioters and told them to go home. So far I have not received any kind of explanation from them.
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So, does this mean that the Trumpkins and Q-Tips are not actually capable or starting a riot by themselves and need a bunch of softy lefties to do it for them?
Did they never listen to The Clash? "White riot, I wanna riot, a riot of my own". |
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I really like the capitalizing of ANTIFA. I can almost see Tucker Carlson screaming it.
Is it supposed to make them look like HYDRA or something? It's a bunch of guys who don't want neo-Nazis in their community, and push back when neo-Nazis come in. They are not Dr Evil's henchmen. |
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