Loose Change - Part II

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It should be no surprise that family members wouldn't buy this. Even the family members of the producers of the film don't buy it.

In part, thanks to "Loose Change 2," evidence of flaws in the 9/11 Commission's report has reached mainstream news. Yet some Americans continue to scoff. Why? "Some people just can't see it," says Bermas. Bermas tried to show "Loose Change 2" to his family, but "they just left the room. They just couldn't watch it."
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This is available at Screw Loose Change, since I can't post a link yet.
 
Manny said:
Heh. I can see the site but they're not getting a hold of my work IP if I can help it.

Speaking of which: WARNING!!!

Persons who post to the Loosers from work or are considering doing so should check out the second post of this thread. The Looser moderators have contempt for the basic rules of netiquette as regards on-line privacy and will post your IP lookup for everyone to see. So unless you want to see your employer's domain name and your IT head's name and number displayed for all to see I recommend caution.
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Yea, it's pretty clear that all the guy's buddys are the mods and admins over there.

I wounder if when you sign up as a part of the user agreement they agree not to post personal info. I'm thinking the admin doing that could get him into trouble.
 
JamesB said:
It should be no surprise that family members wouldn't buy this. Even the family members of the producers of the film don't buy it.
In part, thanks to "Loose Change 2," evidence of flaws in the 9/11 Commission's report has reached mainstream news. Yet some Americans continue to scoff. Why? "Some people just can't see it," says Bermas. Bermas tried to show "Loose Change 2" to his family, but "they just left the room. They just couldn't watch it."
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I guess that means he has the basement of mom's house to himself again. . .
 
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Manny said:
Heh. I can see the site but they're not getting a hold of my work IP if I can help it.

Speaking of which: WARNING!!!

Persons who post to the Loosers from work or are considering doing so should check out the second post of this thread. The Looser moderators have contempt for the basic rules of netiquette as regards on-line privacy and will post your IP lookup for everyone to see. So unless you want to see your employer's domain name and your IT head's name and number displayed for all to see I recommend caution.
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A couple other funny things about that thread.

Roxdog taking offense at my suggestion that Fred Phelps and his peons should be beaten silly by a platoon of angry marines. How insane do you have to get that you'll start standing up for the "God hates f_gs" idiots?

I seem to have been banned for trolling the trolling section.

Finalstrikes claim that I will someday have an epiphany, wake up and be converted to thier silly cult...

...as soon as they can demonstrate the existence of a technology that can teleport 40,000 explosive charges through 1.25 million tons of steel, concrete and drywall without disturbing interior surfaces in a space of 36 hours, that is. :p
 
Kiwiwriter said:
Second, for the general public, they take a messy, complex world full of loose ends, ambiguity, unfinished business, and vagueness, and turn it into a neat clean fairy tale/soap opera, with everything explained and set out as carefully as a math problem. Everything fits together...the world is comprehensible.
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I think you summarized it perfectly there. 9/11 was such a traumatic event, such an huge and horrible act of hatred, that it is dificult to grasp. To this day, I don't understand it myself. I think the world hasn't made sense of it yet either. I think humankind maybe never will completely. For some people, as you said, try desperatly to put meaning to it. That's what the CT are doing because they can't acknowledge the horrible fact that human beings can be monsters. So they invent a large invisible evil organisation to explain everything, to place the blame on somethig that doesn't have a face.
 
Pardalis said:
I think you summarized it perfectly there. 9/11 was such a traumatic event, such an huge and horrible act of hatred, that it is dificult to grasp. To this day, I don't understand it myself. I think the world hasn't made sense of it yet either. I think humankind maybe never will completely. For some people, as you said, try desperatly to put meaning to it. That's what the CT are doing because they can't acknowledge the horrible fact that human beings can be monsters. So they invent a large invisible evil organisation to explain everything, to place the blame on somethig that doesn't have a face.
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Thing is, they often then end up putting a face on their invisible evil organization.
 
Wow - They're starting to sound like the fundies as well

"dude hasnt had self realisation yet thats all" from Swords' thread and
And finding the answers yourself is the only way some people "See the light" from the family thread, Bleh.

On another note if you're worried about them broadcasting your IP address then an Anonymiser site should be able to assist.

**Warning**
Make sure you're chummy with your network manager first, if you can access the site. They're often blocked for very good reasons. If you wish to use things like this at home make sure you have a couple of spyware apps running, there are dubious uses for this and some places it shows.
 
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chipmunk stew said:
Another relationship headed for collapse:
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=5239&view=findpost&p=4916842
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I kind of have the same problem with a few of my friends. I was watching a hockey game with a friend when during the break somehow we got to talking about the movie "United 93". I was shocked at the violence of his reaction when he said that these passengers were probably inventions of the US government propaganda. I was so shocked that I couldn't say anything, I just stood there in awe. Fortunately the hockey game resumed and we never talked about it again. Now every time the conversation even comes close to the 9/11 events, I just change the subject. I really value this friend but I really am surprised that paranoia can be get to an intelligent person so easily.
 
Mongrel said:
On another note if you're worried about them broadcasting your IP address then an Anonymiser site should be able to assist.

**Warning**
Make sure you're chummy with your network manager first, if you can access the site. They're often blocked for very good reasons. If you wish to use things like this at home make sure you have a couple of spyware apps running, there are dubious uses for this and some places it shows.
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There are other programs you can use that bounce your IP address around a few times to make it difficult to trace. I've used Ghostsurf before, it limits what websites you go to, but AFAIK it has been effective.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
Thing is, they often then end up putting a face on their invisible evil organization.
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Yeah, it often ends up being Bush's face, but I think they just use him as a scapegoat. The "They" the CTs are always referring to are rather faceless, multi-national, multi-generational and all encompassing, wich makes "Them" virtually impossible to catch. So whatever happens next, whatever important event occurs, it will surely be "Their" doing.

ETA: Like Delphi noted, it's a really simplistic way of seeing things, and intellectually lazy. The real sick result of all this is that the real perpetrators avoid accountablility for their actions this way.
 
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Wow bobkark that was a quick response. I doubt you even clicked on the link.

Unless you took up speed reading courses.
 
ob986s said:
That is precisely what I have been thinking about this "Truth" movement. How long is it before one of these guys, fueled on by their idiot fellow "truthers" actually harms someone. I honestly believe that it is only a matter of time at this point.
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These types of groups tend to attract the frustrated and disenchanted members of society, peel them away from people who aren't like minded, and then fill their heads with more and more preposterous ideas. Having that many unquestioning believers together with the mentally unstable is like storing gasoline and a box of matches in a 3rd grade classroom where the teacher is on vacation.
 
60hzxtl said:
That tears it!

Was It bombs that pulled it and the missile, and released the anthrax, which resulted in memory loss of melted metal in WTC paid for by the black pope and the Naudet brothers knew, because they were in on it?


But hey, I'm just asking questions.
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Mock mock mock

It's no wonder why you can't see the obviousness of the us government's complicity in sept 11, joker.
 
geggy said:
sighs I feel sorry for you people...

Read this...

http://www.freewebs.com/abigsecret/grove.html

This is serious...!!
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Don't you have to be an insider to be a whistleblower? He's not a whistleblower, just another loony CT'er whe can't speak clearly or get to the point of his argument.

The inability to write a coherent paragraph seems to be the norm for CT'ers for some reason. Perhaps that reason is to disguise the fact that there is no actual evidence for the CT?
 
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