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greyleonard · 13th September 2006, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by shuize

Exactly. I've said for a long time that if I honestly believed that the government murdered three thousand fellow citizens, I'd be doing a lot more than just sitting around whining about it on the in ...

Have you always been this pragmatic?

Bob Klase · 14th September 2006, 12:43 AM

So how long do you think it will take until they realize that the entire 186,000,000 of us that aren't Cter's are getting paid off to keep our mouths shut? With all their finger pointing and screaming that everybody's in collusion with the gubamit to cover up the inside job, you'd think they'd have figured out that they're the only people in the country who aren't in on the coverup.

When they gonna realize that all they have to do is come over to the dark side and collect a big paycheck just like the rest of us did?

defaultdotxbe · 14th September 2006, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bob Klase

So how long do you think it will take until they realize that the entire 186,000,000 of us that aren't Cter's are getting paid off to keep our mouths shut? With all their finger pointing and screaming that everybody's in collusion with the gubamit to cover up the inside job, you'd think they'd have figured out that they're the only people in the country who aren't in on the coverup.

When they gonna realize that all they have to do is come over to the dark side and collect a big paycheck just like the rest of us did?

i think thats the whole issue, they are just mad becuase they arent important enough to be in on it

Marquis de Carabas · 14th September 2006, 12:46 AM

Come on, guys, remember, they're Just Asking Questions^TM.

Which I shall henceforth refer to as JAQing off.

defaultdotxbe · 14th September 2006, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Which I shall henceforth refer to as JAQing off.

i vote to make it an official term

gumboot · 14th September 2006, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing.

Based on your assertations of an inside job, you do realise how ridiculous this statement above is, right?

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start.

Released.

The fact that you la-la's think there are more is irrelevant.

(And you do realise it would be ILLEGAL for the government to release evidence that is private property, right?)

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

NTSB only investigate accidents. The destruction of the four flights on 9/11 was a criminal act, and the investigation is conducted by the FBI. The NTSB provide expertise in given areas, such as FDR analysis. These NTSB reports are available online. Try looking.

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers?

You realise it is illegal for them to release such information, right? Surely, given you are spouting federal law, you understand all this? I am sure you are well up on, for example, the law passed in the early 90's making it illegal to publicly release CVRs from air crashes, right?

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

I don't believe it is standard practise to publicly release evidence from a crime. How about all those murder scene photos? Why haven't they been released? Huh?

(By the way, if you have not seen photographs of aircraft wreckage in The Pentagon you SERIOUSLY have made NO effort to look)

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models?

Why haven't the government publicly released the vending-machine re-filling schedules for all government buildings? DISGUSTING!

You want a bit of information? Stop whining and ask for it.

Complaints like this make me furious. You are utterly oblivious and ungrateful for the nation you live in. Are you aware of how few countries around the world allow their citizens to gain access to official government documents? And yet with the United States FOIA, ANYONE IN THE WORLD can make requests! I have never even BEEN to the USA and yet I can file a FOIA Request and get stuff sent to me. Do you have ANY idea how significant that is?

Sometimes I honestly just wish the USA did become a police state so ungrateful cretins like you got a taste of what living in one is REALLY like.

-Andrew

jhunter1163 · 14th September 2006, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe

i vote to make it an official term

I second this motion.

gumboot · 14th September 2006, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by jhunter1163

I second this motion.

Thirded.

Admittedly a thirding isn't required but hey, I'm a sheeple.

-Andrew

Calcas · 14th September 2006, 05:48 AM

Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum.

It took me all of one post to get banned at the LC forum (funny how dissent is NOT allowed on a forum looking for 'truth') so I may as well continue my good will journey...

Psiload · 14th September 2006, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models?

Yeah... that's how Woodward and Bernstein did it. They sat on their asses and waited for the government to hand them the keys to the kingdom. Or better yet... I think what they did was stand on the sidewalk out in front of the Watergate Hotel hooting and hollering like lunatics.

gumboot · 14th September 2006, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Calcas

Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum.

Depleted Uranium.

Originally Posted by Calcas

It took me all of one post to get banned at the LC forum (funny how dissent is NOT allowed on a forum looking for 'truth') so I may as well continue my good will journey...

Welcome!

While debate here can be fierce, and unsupported claims will be decimated, you will find this forum to be very fairly moderated. As long as you do not violate the few simple rules of the forum, you will never get banned here.

-Andrew

Brainache · 14th September 2006, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Calcas

Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum.

...

I think the're talking about a site called Democratic Underground. Not been there myself but it sounds like CT paradise.

Hastur · 14th September 2006, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by Calcas

Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum.

Democratic Underground. Their alliance with CTers is born of a "we hate Bush" mentality than a real belief in the veracity of the CTs.

NobbyNobbs · 14th September 2006, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models?

Why wait? According to the CTers, there's plenty of evidence already out there. Otherwise, what is your theory based on? Fairies? Use what you've got, grab yourselves a lwayer, and go to town!

I don't see the point in waiting if you think your case is already so slam shut.

realitybites · 14th September 2006, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by gumboot

Thirded.

Admittedly a thirding isn't required but hey, I'm a sheeple.

-Andrew

Fourthed.

Can't wait to call them JAQ-offs on Saturday.

In all seriousness though, where'd Truthy-poo go? I'd honestly like an answer to why they need to see the 4,082,756 other Pentagon tapes. C'mon Truth. You guys rave and salivate over how many "experts" you have in your Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Half of you fellate Alex Jones every time you see him. (Side note: I could've SWORN I saw at least two male truthers throw their boxers at Jones on Monday screaming, "I love you Alex!!!!"). Get these people to work!

You don't need the government. It's evil. They're lying to you. Anything they still have at this point is tampered with, planted, or disposed of. You're essentially asking Dahmer if you could look in his fridge.... Ya' know. Just to see.

You're waiting for the government to tip their hand when every last one of you claim they already have. Smoking guns abound. It's all so obvious!!!

So get up off your pimply [rule8]ing ass, and do something about it.

LashL · 14th September 2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Brainache

I think the're talking about a site called Democratic Underground. Not been there myself but it sounds like CT paradise.

Yes, it was Democratic Underground that was referred to. They have a September 11 forum that is referred to as "the dungeon". It is so named because the administrators don't want the conspiracy crap showing up on the main forums, and have made it so that threads in the dungeon cannot be nominated for more prominent display and whenever someone starts a conspiracy thread on the main forums, it gets relegated to the dungeon.

Killtown has had so many names there (he gets banned regularly) that it's hard to keep up with them all. But his style is unmistakable.

DarkMagician · 14th September 2006, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by realitybites

Fourthed.

Can't wait to call them JAQ-offs on Saturday.

Fifthed.

Damn, this thing just keeps on going, don't it?

valis · 14th September 2006, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234

We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What?

How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those.

How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models?

Can't you file a law suit with the voluminus evidence you already have and then supeona the additional information that you need?

T.A.M. · 14th September 2006, 12:13 PM

DU = Democratic Underground.

I will not tar the entire site with the same brush, but the wingnuts in the 9/11 thread are just as close minded to logic and real evidence as any over at LC. Same church, different pew.

TAM

LashL · 15th September 2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by DarkMagician

Fifthed.

Damn, this thing just keeps on going, don't it?

Sixthed

13th September 2006, 11:46 PM	#41
greyleonard Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 222	Originally Posted by shuize Exactly. I've said for a long time that if I honestly believed that the government murdered three thousand fellow citizens, I'd be doing a lot more than just sitting around whining about it on the in ... Have you always been this pragmatic?
greyleonard Thinker Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 222

14th September 2006, 12:43 AM	#42
Bob Klase Master Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,937	So how long do you think it will take until they realize that the entire 186,000,000 of us that aren't Cter's are getting paid off to keep our mouths shut? With all their finger pointing and screaming that everybody's in collusion with the gubamit to cover up the inside job, you'd think they'd have figured out that they're the only people in the country who aren't in on the coverup. When they gonna realize that all they have to do is come over to the dark side and collect a big paycheck just like the rest of us did?
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14th September 2006, 12:44 AM	#43
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,474	Originally Posted by Bob Klase So how long do you think it will take until they realize that the entire 186,000,000 of us that aren't Cter's are getting paid off to keep our mouths shut? With all their finger pointing and screaming that everybody's in collusion with the gubamit to cover up the inside job, you'd think they'd have figured out that they're the only people in the country who aren't in on the coverup. When they gonna realize that all they have to do is come over to the dark side and collect a big paycheck just like the rest of us did? i think thats the whole issue, they are just mad becuase they arent important enough to be in on it
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14th September 2006, 12:48 AM	#45
defaultdotxbe Drunken Shikigami Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 7,474	Quote: Which I shall henceforth refer to as JAQing off. i vote to make it an official term
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14th September 2006, 03:00 AM	#48
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25,327	Originally Posted by jhunter1163 I second this motion. Thirded. Admittedly a thirding isn't required but hey, I'm a sheeple. -Andrew
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14th September 2006, 12:46 AM	#44
Marquis de Carabas Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 27,071	Come on, guys, remember, they're Just Asking Questions^TM. Which I shall henceforth refer to as JAQing off.

14th September 2006, 02:21 AM	#47
jhunter1163 beer-swilling semiliterate Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Connecticut, or King Arthur's Court. Hard to tell sometimes. Posts: 25,756	Originally Posted by defaultdotxbe i vote to make it an official term I second this motion.

14th September 2006, 05:48 AM	#49
Calcas Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,466	Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum. It took me all of one post to get banned at the LC forum (funny how dissent is NOT allowed on a forum looking for 'truth') so I may as well continue my good will journey...
Calcas Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,466

14th September 2006, 06:00 AM	#50
Psiload Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,102	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What? How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those. How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models? Yeah... that's how Woodward and Bernstein did it. They sat on their asses and waited for the government to hand them the keys to the kingdom. Or better yet... I think what they did was stand on the sidewalk out in front of the Watergate Hotel hooting and hollering like lunatics.
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14th September 2006, 06:06 AM	#51
gumboot lorcutus.tolere Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 25,327	Originally Posted by Calcas Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum. Depleted Uranium. Originally Posted by Calcas It took me all of one post to get banned at the LC forum (funny how dissent is NOT allowed on a forum looking for 'truth') so I may as well continue my good will journey... Welcome! While debate here can be fierce, and unsupported claims will be decimated, you will find this forum to be very fairly moderated. As long as you do not violate the few simple rules of the forum, you will never get banned here. -Andrew
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14th September 2006, 06:18 AM	#52
Brainache Nasty Brutish and Tall Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canberra Posts: 17,510	Originally Posted by Calcas Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum. ... I think the're talking about a site called Democratic Underground. Not been there myself but it sounds like CT paradise.

14th September 2006, 06:33 AM	#53
Hastur Critical Thinker Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 323	Originally Posted by Calcas Excuse my ignorance, but what, exactly, is "DU." I'm assuming it's another troother site/forum. Democratic Underground. Their alliance with CTers is born of a "we hate Bush" mentality than a real belief in the veracity of the CTs.
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14th September 2006, 06:33 AM	#54
NobbyNobbs Gazerbeam's Protege Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 5,617	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What? How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those. How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models? Why wait? According to the CTers, there's plenty of evidence already out there. Otherwise, what is your theory based on? Fairies? Use what you've got, grab yourselves a lwayer, and go to town! I don't see the point in waiting if you think your case is already so slam shut.
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14th September 2006, 06:40 AM	#55
realitybites Graduate Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,066	Originally Posted by gumboot Thirded. Admittedly a thirding isn't required but hey, I'm a sheeple. -Andrew Fourthed. Can't wait to call them JAQ-offs on Saturday. In all seriousness though, where'd Truthy-poo go? I'd honestly like an answer to why they need to see the 4,082,756 other Pentagon tapes. C'mon Truth. You guys rave and salivate over how many "experts" you have in your Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Half of you fellate Alex Jones every time you see him. (Side note: I could've SWORN I saw at least two male truthers throw their boxers at Jones on Monday screaming, "I love you Alex!!!!"). Get these people to work! You don't need the government. It's evil. They're lying to you. Anything they still have at this point is tampered with, planted, or disposed of. You're essentially asking Dahmer if you could look in his fridge.... Ya' know. Just to see. You're waiting for the government to tip their hand when every last one of you claim they already have. Smoking guns abound. It's all so obvious!!! So get up off your pimply [rule8]ing ass, and do something about it.

14th September 2006, 11:37 AM	#56
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 36,396	Originally Posted by Brainache I think the're talking about a site called Democratic Underground. Not been there myself but it sounds like CT paradise. Yes, it was Democratic Underground that was referred to. They have a September 11 forum that is referred to as "the dungeon". It is so named because the administrators don't want the conspiracy crap showing up on the main forums, and have made it so that threads in the dungeon cannot be nominated for more prominent display and whenever someone starts a conspiracy thread on the main forums, it gets relegated to the dungeon. Killtown has had so many names there (he gets banned regularly) that it's hard to keep up with them all. But his style is unmistakable.

14th September 2006, 11:42 AM	#57
DarkMagician Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,532	Originally Posted by realitybites Fourthed. Can't wait to call them JAQ-offs on Saturday. Fifthed. Damn, this thing just keeps on going, don't it?
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14th September 2006, 12:10 PM	#58
valis Muse Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 647	Originally Posted by TruthSeeker1234 We're waiting for the government to release the mountain of evidence we know they have, for one thing. How bout the old Pentagon videos? Those would be a start. How about the NTSB plane crash reports? They did investigate the crashes and document all the serialized plane parts, as per federal law, didn't they? They didn't? What? How about the recordings of the phone calls, instead of transcripts? How about that tape of the air traffic controllers? How about the photos of plane wreckage around columns inside the Pentagon, that the PM guys talked about? I haven't seen those. How about the blueprints to the twin towers? How about the data from the NIST computer models? Can't you file a law suit with the voluminus evidence you already have and then supeona the additional information that you need?
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14th September 2006, 12:13 PM	#59
T.A.M. Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20,795	DU = Democratic Underground. I will not tar the entire site with the same brush, but the wingnuts in the 9/11 thread are just as close minded to logic and real evidence as any over at LC. Same church, different pew. TAM

15th September 2006, 09:48 AM	#60
LashL Goddess of Legaltainment™ Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 36,396	Originally Posted by DarkMagician Fifthed. Damn, this thing just keeps on going, don't it? Sixthed