True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

Stop personalizing the argument.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson
He always does this. He doesn't have an argument, just personal attacks!
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Lee you are petrified of these people because you want to remain in their group and so because you lack courage and conviction, you suppress your true thoughts and opinions for supposed advantage. Your silence shows you have no courage or backbone.

Youre a groupie, Lee. You are churchy to the hilt and love the god of your own making. And love being in the congregation of those that think they are gods.

Very very poor choice Lee, as you are getting worse and worse and worse with time and with the hardening of your heart. I told you this would happen to you, as you have to keep rejecting the Lord and His TRUTH. No wonder yuor girlfriend has rejected you. She must see your lack of courage and principles.
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I'm not petrified, and am not desperate to say in this group. If you'll remember, you were the one who directed me here. I had nothing to do with these guys, and it has remained this way.

**** You, don't ****ing talking to me about courage. I'm a million times more courageous than you'll ever be!!!

I don't suppress my own thoughts etc, if you actually knew anything, you would see that i come out with my own opinions constantly. I don't come out with your opinions though!

My silence? I'm replying to your every message, even if it's not direected towards me, and many more from others.

Me? Churchy? You having a laugh man! Either that or you're crazy. I suspect the latter, but being bedridden with nothing but your mind and a computer can do that to you, can't it!

I am in no congragation that believes in any god! I am an atheist! I don't believe any god exists! Is it just that you can't imagine a life without a god? Well get to know some atheists! You can start wih me! I don't believe in any gods. I am not a god! I am a human who is living out his life like any other. Accept that!

I don't care what you think DJJ. To you my beliefs are a poor choice, and to me your beliefs are even poorer. Live and let live i say.

The Lord doesn't exist to have any truth DJJ. I can't therefore accept that which doesn't exist!

My girlfriend hasn't rejected me. I'm still with her, she still loves me, does that sound like rejection?!
 
I am not allowed to respond to you Panda.... nor classify your actions or describe what you are doing. You obviously have that freedom and can name call me and villify me all you want.
Recently I have been labeled a demon, a devil, nuts, a druggie and even Satan Himself, but that has been deemed not a personal attack and so the name calling against me goes on.... So think up new names if you like, you are among your own and they will protect you.



We shall be called 'Devils' in the End-Time

[SIZE=-1]I think it would make a world of difference if some would understand that we will not be called 'Christians' in the End-Time, but devils, demons, perverted cultists, rebels, terrorists and worse. So if you want the praise of man, you better get out of true Christainity no. Why ? Because if you have the Light, the majority will turn on you and yours when the days get darker.

In the LATTER DAYS, the worldly people who are either religious or non-religious both shall have to conform and choose the Anti-Christ as their 'worldly saviour' to continue on in his One World Government. So they will ALL be saying thatthey have chosen the right Messiah, and are the faithful ones and the enlightened ones, and all will have to follow because their Lord who speaks so well, and looks so stately, and who works miracles and has the lineage and the background and who has defeated every major nuclear power in the world ... He will is the Christ. For even the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Anti-Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] himself shall sit in the temple of Jerusalem and say, He is God (2 Thessalonians 2) and the vast majority of the people of the world of all nationalities and all previous religions of the world will believe Him. Why, mainly because they are of this world, (John 15: 19) and because they love this present life and need their jobs and their worldly systems. They won't understand what's going on, (Daniel 12) and won't want to. They will think, 'Why buck it, why fight it, why die.' And they will take the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]MARK[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], and like others will look to show their dedication to the new Christ by turning in backsliders, apostates, perverts, and the deceived ones. Who are these new rebels us, and a few other people worldwide that will not accept His damnable MARK and will not bow to his demands and his commands.

We will be called 'Baelzebub', exactly like Jesus said. For if they called Jesus, Baelzebah, HOW MUCH MORE US !!! For It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household? (Mathew 25: 10)

So we have to get used to being called 'devils' we won't have the glorious title of Christians in the End-Time, we won't be dying as 'Christians'. even though we will be true Christians of the Lord of Lords. There won't be drunken mobs of new agers, who have come in from their communes to persecute Christian people, as some imagine. And there won't be wild Islamics looking for blood for their Madhi... No our persecutors in the End-Time will be composed of all nationalities and all religions and all walks of life, because the Anti-Christ will unite them into ONE. And there will be only [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Two Religions[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], them and us. They will deem themselves as believers, and us as the unbelieveing infidels. They will be respected citizens of the last government and totally mainstream. Why, because the Anti-Christ will be the only Stream allowed !!

The Anti-Christ won't be a '[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]M[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]adman[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]' but a heroic figure that apparrently has saved the world from destruction and given it peace. He won't be drooling at the mouth, but a well articulated speaker with an extremely proud and [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]stately look[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].

We won't be goody two shoes working inside his system and witnessing to others on the weekend, but literally on the run and in hiding during the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Tribulation[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]. We won't be the good guys in the eyes of the world but the bad guys. just as Jesus said. So we won't be having nice neat glorious deaths in front of our local church buildings. We would be dying for our Christ, but they would say we are devils that need destroying because we are incorrugab trouble makers and against their Christ. They will be calling us ... Anti-Christs. Are you catching the way, Satan will be twsisting things around, to make black, white and white, black.

For the Inquisition was nothing, this Tribulation will be worse than any wars or persecutions that have ever happenned. We won't be working in the A.C. system, for when we refuse to obey and take the MARK, they will hunt us down and kill us ignominously or whatever horrible way they choose. John 16:2 And when they kill you they will say, Let God be glorified, their God, the A.C.

They will be the most '[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]R[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]eligious people[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]'[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] ever on Earth, and like all the self-righteous religionists before them they will persecute and kill the Lord's people.. For which if the prophets have they not killed. (Acts 7: 52). They have killed them all, and they will kill any of us that don't bow in the End-Time...and they won't call us 'Christians'. They will say they are the true Christians, they are the true Jews, they are the true submissive Islamic Ones. They are the chosen ones of the Messiah that has come to Earth. And we shall be called 'Devils'



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Should I take that to mean you are not interested in engaging me in a "true debate" so you can show me how a "true skeptic" acts?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I am not allowed to respond to you Panda.... nor classify your actions or describe what you are doing. You obviously have that freedom and can name call me and villify me all you want.
Recently I have been labeled a demon, a devil, nuts, a druggie and even Satan Himself, but that has been deemed not a personal attack and so the name calling against me goes on.... So think up new names if you like, you are among your own and they will protect you.
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This is the only bit i read. I can't be bothered with the rest, which you probably just copied and pasted from your geosite anyway.

I don't have the freedom, i cannot name-call any more than you can. The name calling and insults have went on for so long from you that the mods are now stepping in. I have name called once! Calling you Satan himself, for a bit of fun. I also say that you are bedridden etc, but this is to show you that it's not nice to make up things that you really can't know about someone! How would i know you are bedridden unless you told me? The same as how would you know every here is atheist, and i am everything little thing you've said I am without at least meeting me, or knowing me. I am almost nothing you say I am, and it is extremely offensive for you to claim i am! This is the reason, i think, the mods stepped in. We have claimed you are a few things, Satan and mad. But this is to hopefully show you the error of your ways. If you say we are all these things which we are not, and you won't listen to us, then the best way to show you your error is to do it back to you!

Now when i say "we", it sounds like I'm grouping with these guys. But the only way I'm grouping is because you have done this to all of us. You have called us all false skeptics, and many other things without evidence etc.

I am in noway associated with the people here other than that i think you are wrong in most of what you say, and these people seem to think the same way. I do not plot with them, i barely even talk with any of them!

Lee
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
We shall be called 'Devils' in the End-Time

[SIZE=-1]For even the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Anti-Christ[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] himself shall sit ...[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]The Anti-Christ won't be a '[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]M[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]adman[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]' but a heroic figure that apparrently has saved the world from destruction and given it peace. [/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]In [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]His[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] Service[/SIZE]

[SIZE=-1]David Jay Jordan[/SIZE]
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So true skeptics are nut cases who think they have an inside track with Christ? What would Christ say? What would Carman do? As a jew what would jesus say about christians and true skeptics and how would Jesus help "CT" dolts find facts?

Is that you and your girl friend on your web site? Or are those lies too?

Hitler was an excellent anti-Christ you are wrong in your paper. That piece is a do-over. I have to assume your thread has been debunked since you are now hopelessly lost in some religious rant which does not seem to support the "true skeptic" theme. Is this true?
 
beachnut said:
So true skeptics are nut cases who think they have an inside track with Christ? (((NO al true skeptics are not Christians but logically would eventually have to become Christians as Christianity encorporates all truths. Not churchianity, but Christianity meaning JESUS...as He created all truths. true skeptics look for and searcvh for truths. False skeptics deny truths and look for denials))))

What would Christ say? (((The above )))

As a jew what would jesus say about christians and true skeptics and how would Jesus help "CT" dolts find facts? (((As above)))

Hitler was an excellent anti-Christ you are wrong in your paper. (((Yes he was a type of Anti-Christ but not the End Time ANTI-CHRIST))) That piece is a do-over. I have to assume your thread has been debunked since you are now hopelessly lost in some religious rant which does not seem to support the "true skeptic" theme. Is this true?
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(((No very consistent but you false skeptics have proven beyond a sgadoww of a doubt that false skeptics do NOT look for truths, but deny them when faced with truths)))

Don;t you all have any good debunkers or intelligent writers among you. Don;t you have any heavyweights when you light weights fail so miserably ?
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Originally Posted by beachnut
So true skeptics are nut cases who think they have an inside track with Christ? (((NO al true skeptics are not Christians but logically would eventually have to become Christians as Christianity encorporates all truths. Not churchianity, but Christianity meaning JESUS...as He created all truths. true skeptics look for and searcvh for truths. False skeptics deny truths and look for denials))))

What would Christ say? (((The above )))

As a jew what would jesus say about christians and true skeptics and how would Jesus help "CT" dolts find facts? (((As above)))

Hitler was an excellent anti-Christ you are wrong in your paper. (((Yes he was a type of Anti-Christ but not the End Time ANTI-CHRIST))) That piece is a do-over. I have to assume your thread has been debunked since you are now hopelessly lost in some religious rant which does not seem to support the "true skeptic" theme. Is this true?

(((No very consistent but you false skeptics have proven beyond a sgadoww of a doubt that false skeptics do NOT look for truths, but deny them when faced with truths)))

Don;t you all have any good debunkers or intelligent writers among you. Don;t you have any heavyweights when you light weights fail so miserably ?
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Why would they logically go to christianity? Hitler was a christian, who didn't really have much time for church either. So he seems to be one of those people you say are true skeptics.

I'm glad we proved something to you DJJ, even though we aren't even false skeptics. Do you not see that we are all searching, but in doing so are finding ourselves further and further from what you are saying. Maybe it is your who does not search!

We are all heavyweight in comparison to you. You don't know how to debate, all you know how to do is preach! Shout the same thing over and over even though every time you do it is debunked!

Lee
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Don;t you all have any good debunkers or intelligent writers among you. Don;t you have any heavyweights when you light weights fail so miserably ?
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You are soooooo funny DJJ, you have not shown any intelligent writings, or have shown any ability to learn from your mistaken ideas, it is just full steam ahead with your ignorance.

Paul

:) :) :)

You see patterns where there are none, just because you what them to be there, to show that you have some kind of deep insight, when in truth it is all BS and just quickly thrown together with no real logic behind it.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
(((No very consistent but you false skeptics have proven beyond a sgadoww of a doubt that false skeptics do NOT look for truths, but deny them when faced with truths)))

Don;t you all have any good debunkers or intelligent writers among you. Don;t you have any heavyweights when you light weights fail so miserably ?
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Don't you have spell check? Don't you have any idea how moronic you sound?
Come on, dude. Act like something besides a child throwing a tantrum. My goodness, you're supposed to be a man of god, and yet you behave like this. Very disappointing. Yet, somehow, it keeps with the character you've shown from the start.
 
gumboot said:
Frankly, if any of that religious stuff is true, and there really is a heaven and hell, based on what goes for "sin", and based on what goes for "holiness", and based on the fact that hell = no God, if I was given a choice I'd choose hell.
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So would I. I mean, not only do I actually RULE hell, but they've got the prettier girls!
 
Belz... said:
So would I. I mean, not only do I actually RULE hell, but they've got the prettier girls!
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Hell has no pretty girls whatsoever, only in your dreams. Jesus created them and sex... so you are going to have to do without. Your choice..... but a very poor one.

See religion thread concerning the same..or

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/JesusCreatedSex.html

Notice how an integrated cohesive truths all fit together while most of you wobble from nothingness to your dreams and hopes back to nothingness

Once you realize that Jesus himself created sex, then your whole attitude
about the most pleasurable experience in life should change. For it is not evil
but good. Sex didn’t come about by accident or evolutionary mutationsbut by
design. Evolution didn’t create sex, nor did the Devil who tries to take the credit
for it, but theKing of Kings, Jesus created Sex.

He is the Creator, who did you think was ? SEE[SIZE=-1] [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Jesus is the Creator[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] He and the Father and the Eternal Spirit are One and the same. And He as, He said has been around from the beginning when He created all things.

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

Who dwelt among us and was the Living WORD that created the Universe and everything within it including us / Jesus !! Now you are catching it, as we are [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Made in His Image[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]. And just as He is sexy, so are we !!

Sex was and is part of the Great Design by the Great Designer. (SEE [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Creation not Evolution Board[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]) Matter of fact, His first commandment to his first couple was ‘Be fruitful and multiply’ in Genesis 1:28. What does that mean, ? ‘Have sex, make love and make children’ and they obeyed his natural normal commandment via His God-given hormones and we are the result of their obedience.

The sin of [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Adam and Eve[/SIZE][SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]had absolutely nothing to do with sex. They disobeyed andate of the tree of good and evil when they were told not to. The dam devil convinced Eve that the Lord had lied to her and enticed her to eat evil when she and Adam had all the good fruit in the world to eat, including a healthy happy sex life. The fruit wasn’t sex, it was evil knowledge like the fallen angels brought to earth a little while later. So who told Adam and Eve that they were naked and should be embarassed. it wasn't the Lord

[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Genesis 3:7-11 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou? And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself. And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked?[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]

So who told them, they were naked, the dam Devil and not the Lord, for after that they tried to cover up themselves with fig leaves, but it didn't work. Therefore don't let the dam devil deceive you as well, or tell you that he created sex, when he didn;t. Nor let him tell you that you have to join his side to enjoy sex, because that also is a lie. The dam devil didn’t create sex and nor entice Adam and Eve with sex in the garden. They already had it and were experiencing it. Sex is not the original sin, where in hell did that perverted idea come from. Sex is from heaven and is holy and sacred when done with a pure heart. But when the devil tries to steal it, he convinces people that it is dirty and vile, and so to partake of it, people have to side with him.

The devil has not created anything. He doesn’t have that kind of power. He can’t create anything. He is a liar and a deceiver and nothing more. He didn’t create himself nor his demons. All things were made by the Lord of Lords and there is nothing that is, that wasn’t made by Him. Even the dark side isjust being used by the Lord in their fallen state to provide a darkened backdrop and alternative choice for people. They have nothing and will be removed when their usefulness is no more. They can;t come up with anything new or exciting, as they are mere copycats and theivess.

The serpent would love to take credit for sex, but can’t. It’s too amazing, too beautiful, too miraculous and empowering and too pleasurable. It is too unifying !!! And the evil One is against people getting together as One. He hates union and only likes separation and division, for in this way, does he hope to conquer.

But we should know better and study better, so we can live better. We don't have to believe that the devil is the creator of sex, we can know the truth and enjoy the truth. For when Jesus said "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free' that meant in all areas of your life and not just one or two. So can we know sexual freedom if our hearts are right ? Yes, despite the fact that the devils people try to do the same.

For there is nothing wrong with healthy clean sex and creating children (as long as we take care of them). And there is nothing wrong with pleasure. For does not his Word say ‘Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.' Ppsalms 16: 11). And so with sexual pleasure, as [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Jesus[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] is the Creator of Sex.

Don't you agree?

David
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Think I figurted out why DJJ wont give up his real name.

Judging by the the obsessive sexual content of the post above.

hes likely on a sexual offender list.
 
I Read This Whole Thread, and all I got was this lousy

JOHN 3:16 Sign

And a big multi-colored Afro wig!!
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Hell has no pretty girls whatsoever, only in your dreams.
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Whew! Well, that's a load off my mind. Here I've been wasting so much time agonizing over doing the right things, helping people, figuring out what I believe, and what the universe means but since I'm a pretty girl (or so I've been told on occasion), I can't burn in hell. Sweet.

Davidjayjordan said:
Jesus created them and sex... so you are going to have to do without.
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You seem to be implying that pretty girls were created for sex and would only be in heaven to as concubines for men. That's no what you're saying right? Because that would be awfully misogynistic, wouldn't it?

Plus, are you saying that there's sex in heaven? Um...how does that work exactly? Everybody there's gonna be dead and their physical bodies, you know the things people use to have sex with, will be dust.
 
yodaluver28 said:
Plus, are you saying that there's sex in heaven? Um...how does that work exactly? Everybody there's gonna be dead and their physical bodies, you know the things people use to have sex with, will be dust.
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If there was a couple of bodies up there, there'd be a lot of sex with all the spirits up there.

...sorry, had to make that pun.
 
Unless there is nothing to do in heaven, everyone in it will go to hell one day. You can’t live an eternally and not screw up doing something sometime and pissing god off and becoming a fallen angel.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
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