How it works what exactly? How it is 'used', or how it works in your mind?
You wont understand how it can be used until you understand how it is already working in your mind.
My time and output.
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How it works what exactly? How it is 'used', or how it works in your mind?
You wont understand how it can be used until you understand how it is already working in your mind.
My time and output.
to a biologist. to the machine, the machine isn't finding evolutionary traits, however, it is finding symmetrical patterns that repeat.
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Is that a no then?
I'd settle for a coherent description of how it is working in my mind, and frankly I'll be flabbergasted if it is comprehensible and in any way original.
That's the problem, we all dont mutually explain or understand words exactly the same.
Remember, as Yaffle is starting to gather, all things external have a subjective component. That subjective component is our experience. We all understand words subjectively very differently. Objective/subjective is an example, they are not agreed upon in common language, and since o/s are ideas which relate to a fundamental aspect of our reality and all things relate to them, then if there is confusion about o/s, then there is confusion about all things which relate to them by default.
There are things in many branches of philosophy which support many aspects of OS 012, from linguistics to objectivism in the west, to taoism and zen in the east.
I dont have time to make an epistemological list, but that is apart of this stage of the project, and I have a MA in philosophy who is going to compile all of those
gee, you got my meaning regardless? interesting, eh?
BF
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With the rather crucial difference that people realise that Science Fiction is fiction.
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Nice, Mojo, nice!
Dangerously close to another 20 points there Bubb:
23. 20 points for every use of science fiction works or myths as if they were fact.
...and, of course the ever accumulating points from this:
26. 20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.
Now, it's a request for clarification. You can't understand how to apply math if you dont know how to add.
Developing an online framework that guides people through a discussion where ALL ideas in the discussion are noted, compiled, and listed in three values is not a far leap to see when you get it.
Only you can see 'how' it is working in your mind. Our minds are made of language. Our brain circuits are ternary in nature, our brains already operate in something like ternary logic. I suggest that is the root of all of this, our brains.
How that gets translated into experience and understanding is another story, yours.
The Aymara Language is very interesting then in this regard. It's structure is in three values, and this language gives us the ability to translate ALL other languages into mutual understanding.
OS 012 is very interesting, it's structure can give us the ability to translate ALL philosophies into mutual understanding and language.
What happens when you combine OS 012 with Aymara? hehe, that's apart of the next phase, but it looks like something wonderful so far, according to me, and the fellow who originally discovered the logical and mathematical properties of the Aymara Language.
How it works in your mind is natural. It's already in your mind. The problem is, in theory, that the mind is confused into assuming that it's metalogic is bivalent, not realizing that it's true metalogic is ternary, and binary is simply a logical subset.
You wont get it until you can get what objective/subjective mean in ternary. Until you get that, you havent a hope to see how it could work. If you cant see it working in your self, then you cant see it working period.
Mojo
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Where is the subjective component in the statement "Angelina Jolie is a woman"?
I dont think you got the point. Science Fiction is the inspiration for future science. Star Trek predicted the cell phone. Science Fiction is ahead of science in myth, and science is catching up to it. Isaac Asimov is a prophet for science, or external technology. Ancient Myths were told by prophets that relate internal technology.
Both science fiction and ancient myth address the mystery, and their inspirations keep the species moving forward.
Bubblefish is no longer rationally engaging magical arguments!
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The Managment
The observation of Angelina Jolie. The statement does not relate any subjective information about her, but we know that it views her, right?
Mojo
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Science Fiction doesn't predict; it speculates. Once again there is a crucial difference.
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So it was a "no" then.
You are going to keep trying to argue for your system without actually explaining it.
Are you sure you don't work for Steorn?
Remarkable, "Diet English"! It looks almost exactly like English but has none of the fattening "meaning" that can be so bothersome in real discussions.
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sinnikal
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Sounds like we haven't achieved our 'breakthrough' yet. Sounds suspiciously like them good ol' swivel-eyed evangelical fundies idea of 'breakthrough'
Mojo
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Are you suggesting that observing her has some effect on the truth value of the statement "Angelina Jolie is a woman"?
Bubblefish has never been responding to any arguments whatsoever. Why bother to tell us something we already knew?
So?
And I'm sorry, there is tons of science fiction which also predicts, ever read 1984? There was a prediction that perhaps PREVENTED that, it just does it in a way that is creative.
Science Fiction deals with MYSTERY, which is BOTH science, and FICTION. Even look at the word, notice the inference, from science we can infer TRUTH, from fiction we can infer FALSE.
Science fiction is a 1/2 coupling!
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
- Arthur C. Clarke
A good science fiction story should be able to predict not the automobile but the traffic jam.
- Fred Pohl
Most of us came to technology through science fiction; our imaginations remain secretly moved by science-fictional ideas.
- Jason Pontin
http://www.aaai.org/AITopics/html/scifi.html
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf086/sf086b07.htm
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060924-7816.html
No longer?
Shurly shome mistake?
Jim has also started referring to himslelf in the third person, can he get some pointe soo?
Bubblefish is no longer rationally engaging magical arguments!
Regards,
The Managment