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I saw a photograph recently of what is purported to be a women standing alongside a column at the entry hole of the plane into the first tower that was hit.

Anyone know the background to this photo? Is it real. Troofers use to say it couldn't have been that hot if someone could stand right at the hole.
 
buka001 said:
I saw a photograph recently of what is purported to be a women standing alongside a column at the entry hole of the plane into the first tower that was hit.

Anyone know the background to this photo? Is it real. Troofers use to say it couldn't have been that hot if someone could stand right at the hole.
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It's real. The woman is believed to be Edna Cintron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Edna_Cintron_standing_in_WTC1.jpg?redirect=no

http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/people/3707.html
http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/met_MISSING_1125_cintron.html

ETA: I'm trying to look up more information, but I get a load of troofer crap.
ETA: 2 more links.
 
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buka001 said:
I saw a photograph recently of what is purported to be a women standing alongside a column at the entry hole of the plane into the first tower that was hit.

Anyone know the background to this photo? Is it real. Troofers use to say it couldn't have been that hot if someone could stand right at the hole.
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"Troofers" are quite right. It couldn't be "that hot" if someone was standing in the hole. It couldn't be "that hot" right there in that specific spot.

I wonder why someone would risk standing in such a dangerous place, clinging to shattered steel at the edge of a plummet to certain death? What could possibly be wrong with the rest of the building? Too smoky? Or perhaps too hot?

-Gumboot
 
Here is a wide angle shot.

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The fires are above her at that particular place.
 
In one of the photo's there is also a man visible between the columns iirc on the floor above and to the left of Edna.
 
I hate that photograph.

When I look at it, I see a fragile human being in the final, horrifying moments of her life. A person who has done nothing to deserve their fate standing in stark realization of exactly how few choices she has left and knowing with absolute certainty what that fate is going to be. In careful hands that photograph would bring people together in empathy and loss.

When a troother looks at that photograph they see an opportunity to play amateur fire investigator. A chance to pick at the threads on the hem of the investigation so they can convince others that their particular frankenstein monster of a theory is somehow more credible than all the other conspiracy theories and that the official conclusion is somehow wrong. All based on the final moments of a person's life, captured by chance on film. In their hands it is a nothing but a tool: a prybar with jagged edges used to worry any perceived gap.

I don't know who that woman is, but I hope she passed as quickly and painlessly as possible in that hell. No one deserves that treatment in life, and she definitely doesn't deserve this treatment afterwards.
 
Bell said:
In one of the photo's there is also a man visible between the columns iirc on the floor above and to the left of Edna.
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It's terrible how they use these pictures to further their agenda. Absolutely terrible.
 
gumboot said:
"Troofers" are quite right. It couldn't be "that hot" if someone was standing in the hole. It couldn't be "that hot" right there in that specific spot.

I wonder why someone would risk standing in such a dangerous place, clinging to shattered steel at the edge of a plummet to certain death? What could possibly be wrong with the rest of the building? Too smoky? Or perhaps too hot?

-Gumboot
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My thoughts exactly. No one is going to "hang ten" over an 800 foot drop unless stepping back from that ledge is even more crazy.

I've pointed out before that this photograph is simply incapable of showing wether Ms. Cintron has any burns or other fire related injury.
 
I couldn't agree more!!

The point they fail to understand is the the fire burnt upwards. None of them can rationalise the fact that all the smoke from the flames, is coming from the floors above. They also say this is proof that the steel wasn't melting. Well who said it was melting there and then?
 
And as if that were not enough, they put her at the top of the page at Patriots Question 9/11.

Sick little morons.
 
Tirdun said:
I hate that photograph.

When I look at it, I see a fragile human being in the final, horrifying moments of her life. A person who has done nothing to deserve their fate standing in stark realization of exactly how few choices she has left and knowing with absolute certainty what that fate is going to be. In careful hands that photograph would bring people together in empathy and loss.

When a troother looks at that photograph they see an opportunity to play amateur fire investigator. A chance to pick at the threads on the hem of the investigation so they can convince others that their particular frankenstein monster of a theory is somehow more credible than all the other conspiracy theories and that the official conclusion is somehow wrong. All based on the final moments of a person's life, captured by chance on film. In their hands it is a nothing but a tool: a prybar with jagged edges used to worry any perceived gap.

I don't know who that woman is, but I hope she passed as quickly and painlessly as possible in that hell. No one deserves that treatment in life, and she definitely doesn't deserve this treatment afterwards.
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Well said. I'll nominate this post.
 
IIRC, the time stamp on that photograph indicates that it was taken around 9:30 or so. There is no one visible in later photos, but lots more fire.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
IIRC, the time stamp on that photograph indicates that it was taken around 9:30 or so. There is no one visible in later photos, but lots more fire.
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I read a remark by her husband who said he recognized her in those photo's, and also recognized her in one of the photo's showing falling people :(
 
That's what makes me so mad about the whole troof movement!! Total ignorance and disrespect! :mad:

What about the passengers? Oh no according to troofers, they are stuck in some lab at NASA. Seriously wish they would just consider facts for once.
 
The New York State Dept of Taxation office was 1 floor above WTC2's impact. Some people from those offices survived. Many didn't. For someone to make their way down to the site of impact in WTC1 (which I believe that image is from) after it has burned out isn't entirely unbelievable... it must have been the least hot spot to stand.

Imagine the horror after making your way down and realizing just how bad it is and you can't make it much further...
 
Tirdun said:
I hate that photograph.

When I look at it, I see a fragile human being in the final, horrifying moments of her life. A person who has done nothing to deserve their fate standing in stark realization of exactly how few choices she has left and knowing with absolute certainty what that fate is going to be. In careful hands that photograph would bring people together in empathy and loss.

When a troother looks at that photograph they see an opportunity to play amateur fire investigator. A chance to pick at the threads on the hem of the investigation so they can convince others that their particular frankenstein monster of a theory is somehow more credible than all the other conspiracy theories and that the official conclusion is somehow wrong. All based on the final moments of a person's life, captured by chance on film. In their hands it is a nothing but a tool: a prybar with jagged edges used to worry any perceived gap.

I don't know who that woman is, but I hope she passed as quickly and painlessly as possible in that hell. No one deserves that treatment in life, and she definitely doesn't deserve this treatment afterwards.
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all so true....heartbreaking photo...well said.

TAM:)
 
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