The Progressive Collapse Challenge!

Swing Dangler

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THE PROGRESSIVE COLLAPSE CHALLENGE

The challenge is in 5 parts, from the easiest to the most difficult.

All five require building a structure that will undergo top-down progressive total collapse -- i.e.: when disturbed near the top, it will collapse from the top down to the bottom, leaving no part standing. The disturbance can include mechanical force, such as projectile impacts, and fires, augmented with hydrocarbon fuels. Explosives and electromagnetic energy beams are not permitted.

Your structure can be made out of anything: straws, toothpicks, cards, dominoes, mud, vegetables, pancakes, etc.

The designers of the Twin Towers were able to meet all 5 challenges using steel and concrete.



CHALLENGE #1:

Build a structure with a vertical aspect ratio of at least 2 (twice as tall as it is wide) and induce it to undergo top-down total progressive collapse.

CHALLENGE #2:

Build a structure with a square footprint and a vertical aspect ratio of at least 6.5 (6.5 times as high as it is wide), and induce it to undergo top-down total progressive collapse.

CHALLENGE #3:

Build a structure as required by CHALLENGE #2 which, in the process of collapsing, will throw pieces outward in all directions such that at least 80% of the mass of the materials ends up lying outside of the footprint, but their center of mass lies inside the footprint.

CHALLENGE #4:

Build a structure as required by CHALLENGE #2 which is capable of remaining intact in 100 MPH cross wind.

CHALLENGE #5:

Build a structure that meets the requirements of both CHALLENGES #3 and #4.
Thanks to Mr. Hoffman for this challenge.
 
Swing Dangler is like a Conspiracy Kook from Central Casting: Right down to the "kewl" picture of the CT's current hero Guy Fawkes from "V For Vendetta".
 
Still no evidence to support your lunacy I see.

Ah, but you see Swing isn't a loon at all, well other than his warped sense of humor. He doesn't believe any of what he writes. He just thinks it's fun to annoy the skeptics. Kind of like how an 8 year old enjoys annoying his siblings.
 
Ah, but you see Swing isn't a loon at all, well other than his warped sense of humor. He doesn't believe any of what he writes. He just thinks it's fun to annoy the skeptics. Kind of like how an 8 year old enjoys annoying his siblings.
My bad, sorry SD, carry on.
 
You're basically asking us to rebuilt the WTC. I can't afford it.

-Gumboot
 
Your structure can be made out of anything: straws, toothpicks, cards, dominoes, mud, vegetables, pancakes, etc.

Ah, twoofer engineering at its finest.

:dl:

Just a reminder, Swing - all this time you spend making a fool of yourself here is time you could be spending talking to engineers and demolition experts.
 
Swing; I'll except your challenge if you can get the "truth" movement to pay for it. 100 million ought to do. I'll await your decision.
 
This has already been conclusively proven with mathematical models. There are no papers which have succeeded in refuting the basic concepts of these models.

Building models is foolish and expensive. Unless the "model" is exactly the same as the original, it will not scale loads, deflection and stress the same as each are exponetially (to the second, third and fourth powers) dependant upon distance.
 
I used to think that designing skycrapers was hard, and really smart engineers worked for years to figure out how to make them safe and economical. Now troofers have turned this idea on its head, and it is apparently impossible to construct a tall building that will collapse under any circumstances. Who knew?
 
The new 9/11 investigation:

gather your vegetables and toothpicks, we're going to prove the NIST wrong!
 
Ok, so if you accept pancake structures, what's this supposed to prove concerning the WTC towers?

Hey they've already modelled the WTC towers using chicken-wire, toilet paper roles and office trays.

Don't knock science, bro. :D
 
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CHALLENGE #1:

Build a structure with a vertical aspect ratio of at least 2 (twice as tall as it is wide) and induce it to undergo top-down total progressive collapse.

See: WTC

CHALLENGE #2:

Build a structure with a square footprint and a vertical aspect ratio of at least 6.5 (6.5 times as high as it is wide), and induce it to undergo top-down total progressive collapse.

See: WTC

CHALLENGE #3:

Build a structure as required by CHALLENGE #2 which, in the process of collapsing, will throw pieces outward in all directions such that at least 80% of the mass of the materials ends up lying outside of the footprint, but their center of mass lies inside the footprint.

See: WTC

CHALLENGE #4:

Build a structure as required by CHALLENGE #2 which is capable of remaining intact in 100 MPH cross wind.

See: WTC

CHALLENGE #5:

Build a structure that meets the requirements of both CHALLENGES #3 and #4.

See: WTC
 
Hey they've already modelled the WTC towers using chicken-wire, toilet paper roles and office trays.

Don't knock science, bro. :D

I wonder if we pour maple syrup on the pancake towers, if it's going to affect the data?
 
I wonder if we pour maple syrup on the pancake towers, if it's going to affect the data?

That depends on what temperature the syrup is at.
A pancake WTC model makes more sense then most Twoofer models: At least when the experiment is over you have something good to eat.
 

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