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Old 4th July 2008, 02:29 AM   #1
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Photo of Obama Smoking is Photoshopped

You know, I just realized that a certain picture of Obama that I've seen floating around the internets (including the avatar of a poster in this forum) is apparantly photoshopped to show Obama smoking a cigarette.



I had heard he smokes, so I assumed the picture was legit, but then (weeks later) I saw the version without the cigarette.
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Old 4th July 2008, 02:36 AM   #2
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Mmm, my immidiate thought was that the one without the cigarette might just as well be the photoshopped one, but looking at the pictures, I agree with you. The cigarette is pretty obviously an edit-in. No shadow, no forming of lips, no smoke.

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Old 4th July 2008, 07:46 AM   #3
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Next comes the explanation that while the photo is forged, it shows the truth of the situation, right?
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Old 4th July 2008, 07:55 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by boloboffin View Post
Next comes the explanation that while the photo is forged, it shows the truth of the situation, right?
You mean the truth that "there are idiots on the internet" ?

Well, to the extent more proof was needed, etc. etc.
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Old 4th July 2008, 11:36 AM   #5
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Mrs Obama asks us to remember that this isn't going to feed her kids.

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Old 4th July 2008, 12:38 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by NoZed Avenger View Post
You mean the truth that "there are idiots on the internet" ?
I'm here! What did I miss?

Oh... wait...

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Old 4th July 2008, 02:21 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
Mrs Obama asks us to remember that this isn't going to feed her kids.

Mrs McCain asks us to remember that smearing Obama with photoshopped pictures isn't going to win her husband the election.
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Old 4th July 2008, 02:23 PM   #8
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.3% below the average smear tactic effectiveness!
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Old 4th July 2008, 05:24 PM   #9
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All the cigarette does is make him look cool.
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Old 4th July 2008, 05:31 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
Mrs McCain asks us to remember that smearing Obama with photoshopped pictures isn't going to win her husband the election.
How is this a smear?

He does smoke, yes?

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Old 4th July 2008, 05:41 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
How is this a smear?

He does smoke, yes?

Nope. He promised Michelle and his kids he'd quit before he ran for president. I think he still chews nicotine gum.
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Old 4th July 2008, 05:44 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by chipmunk stew View Post
Nope. He promised Michelle and his kids he'd quit before he ran for president. I think he still chews nicotine gum.
Nicotine gum, is that like taking methadone?


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Old 4th July 2008, 07:23 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by JEROME DA GNOME View Post
Nicotine gum, is that like taking methadone?
No.
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Old 5th July 2008, 12:24 AM   #14
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Is not out there better photo than this?It is of small quality,so it can be taken both ways.AT least to me.
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Old 5th July 2008, 12:45 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by Klimax View Post
Is not out there better photo than this?It is of small quality,so it can be taken both ways.AT least to me.
I think it was made slightly off-focus on purpose, so that the manipulation would be less obvious. The original is clearly in focus. It's obvious to me that the one with the cigarette is the fake.
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Old 5th July 2008, 02:11 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
I think it was made slightly off-focus on purpose, so that the manipulation would be less obvious. The original is clearly in focus. It's obvious to me that the one with the cigarette is the fake.
I've got similar effect with cheap videocamera,that is why I ask.(JAQing )
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Old 5th July 2008, 12:32 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Klimax View Post
I've got similar effect with cheap videocamera,that is why I ask.(JAQing )
It definately looks like a photograph, taken with a flash, and not a video still, if thats what you mean.


There's the blown highlights and strong shadows.
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Old 6th July 2008, 02:16 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by LawnOven View Post
It definately looks like a photograph, taken with a flash, and not a video still, if thats what you mean.


There's the blown highlights and strong shadows.
Not neccesary video.For reference I had Panasonic: NV-GS 18;180 and 320 in this order and the last one is still serving.

NV-GS 18 was taking "photographs" as a still picture on DV tape.And all three have bit cheaper CCD senzors wich are producing sometimes visible noise.When filtering out it,similar effect is sure to happen.(Just filtering like FFT-like is good "producer" with bad parameters)

If I take a look to archive I might be able to find good example of nonfiltred picture where this happened as well.(And no flash-have not bought it and applies only to latter two models)

P.S.:I could make mistake as most of archive was lost.
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Old 6th July 2008, 09:39 AM   #19
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No.
yes. That's exactly what it is like.
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Old 6th July 2008, 01:16 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by Rob Lister View Post
yes. That's exactly what it is like.
No, from a pharmacological stand point it isn't.

1.) methadone and heroin are completely different chemicals. Nicotine IS the chemical in cigarettes.

2.) Methadone's longer halflife is used to reduce the severity of withdrawal and also block (via receptor competition) the rush of injected heroin. Nicotine gum directly feeds the nicotine withdrawal. Nicotine gum does not block the effects of inhaled nicotine and can add to them. Nicotine gum's sole function is to break the actual habit of smoking by seperating nicotine addiction from the smoking habit.
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Old 6th July 2008, 07:27 PM   #21
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The pathetic thing here is that someone would bother to fake the photo.
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Old 6th July 2008, 07:48 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Rob Lister View Post
yes. That's exactly what it is like.
I repeat: No.
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Old 6th July 2008, 08:00 PM   #23
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The pathetic thing here is that someone would bother to fake the photo.

Unless a supporter did it because it makes him look cool as hell.
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Old 7th July 2008, 03:28 AM   #24
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CLEARLY unqualified to be President. Do you want your children to start putting cigarettes in their ears?
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After one easy experiment,it is clear that it is manipulated picture.
(I just forgot to check for horizontal flip!!!

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CLEARLY unqualified to be President. Do you want your children to start putting cigarettes in their ears?
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
The pathetic thing here is that someone would bother to fake the photo.

Yeah!!! Who would do such a thing?????






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Photoshop is an important component of all political discussion on the Internet.

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