It doesn't seem to get any respect from your side of the aisle. Flying stuff? What flying stuff? White light images? What white light images? Green light in the "opaque" areas? What green light? Honestly, it seems like you folks do not care in the slightest if your mathematical models even jive with the satellite evidence.
Those are not observations. Those are your interpretations of images. You've not yet been able to show ANY reason why YOUR interpretation is more valid than that of practically EVERY OTHER PROFESSIONAL ASTRONOMER, PHYSICIST, and other scientists in the world.
And that was my first step. I observed the satellite images. I realized they didn't jive with your model and I started over. I grabbed the SERTS data and from that data I created a solar model that did correctly explain the images, the mass flow patterns and the spectral output from SERTS.
No, you
assumed based on your personal opinion that they didn't "jive". Another fact you've assumed without evidence. Not to mention that I fail to see how you could conclude they didn't "jive" with current understanding, as you have shown a complete lack of knowledge concerning what the current understanding is.
By the time this crew gets to that point, I will be dead and buried. So much for real "knowledge" eh? It has to go though all those political channels first?
No, not "political" channels, that's the scientific process. New ideas are critiqued by other scientists in the field, observations and experiments are verified. This is because, unlike you, REAL scientists understand that our observations are not always correct, and that our biases and prejudices affect our judgement, and that the mind plays tricks on us. Thus, they put their work out for others to replicate. IF others can't replicate the results, then that indicates a problem with your data. How many scinetists have replicated your results (re: interpreting satellite images, for example)?
Oh no I didn't. I made a whole string of "impossible" (according to your model) "prediction" related to the location of the ion lines in relationship to the surface of the photosphere. I just made a new "prediction" in this thread related to Ne+3 and Ne+4 emissions and how they will/must differ from standard theory. I've gone far beyond just "observing", I'm well into the "prediction" stage while you folks play politics and tighten your parameters to create some new math bunnies.
Show me where you've predicted ANYTHING, Micheal.
You aren't predicting anything. You look at the pretty pictures, then you sort through to find some explanation that you can squeeze onto the data that supports your theory. That's
post-diction, and it's not impressive. REAL scientists change the hypothesis when data contradicts. You, however, seem much happier changing the data.
Oh please. Birkeland "tested" this theory in the standard empirical method over 100 years ago. Alfven "tested" all kinds of electrical aspects of EU solar theories the way you folks "test" things too. You ignored all of it. What in the heck might I do to convince you if those caliber of "scientists" don't even make a dent in your opinions? Hell, I could waste my whole life waiting around for your political process to catch up with just the current technologies, let alone the new stuff coming down the NASA pipeline.
So if Birkland tested this theory, then you should be able to use his data to tell sol EXACTLY how to create the plasma you claim must exist, then, right? Your claims may have been inspired by outdated science, but your model has very little to do with what Birkland tested, besides you both claim an electric sun. No one ignored that data, it was examined by scientists and found NOT to fit the available data. It's not about politics...I give a flying ******* whether the sun is electric or not. I do care about some self-inflated baboon making a mockery of science; of some egotistical narcisist who thinks he is the only one that can see the "truth", and that EVERY SCIENTIST IN THE WORLD EXCEPT HIM IS WRONG. Can you not realze what a monumental claim that is? You're claiming that somehow every serious, accomplished, and intelligent scientist, all over the world (including Chna, Russia, and Zimbabwe) are all so stupid they can't understand a picture (as you say, it's right there to see, no interpretation needed, right?) and so warped by some identical political motivation (whatever that might be) that they all toe the party line? None of them cares about the Nobel Prize they'd get for proving somethign different? None of them wants to be regarded as the Einstein of solar physics? Somehow, you think you're the only one that has the ability to determine this?
Sorry, not buying it.
There's ulterior motives going on here, but they're yours. You're so invested in your theory you ignore any evidence to the contrary, twist interpretations of data into pretzels to prevent ANY change to your "hypothesis", and Ed knows you can't even do the math required to quantize your model. Heck, you're predicting physically impossible plasmas to support your theory, with NO IDEA WHAT MECHANISMS MIGHT MAKE THEM THAT WAY. The fact that you assumed transparent plasmas without even doing the BASIC research into plasma properties is a perfect example of how your interpretations of pictures is skewed.
IMO you people took so many "shortcuts" in science it's not funny. You made so many erroneous assumptions before launching TRACE it's not funny. You failed to correct the problems once you saw the images, no doubt primarily due to the problems in the political processes at LMSAL and NASA. God forbid some idiot like GM should be in charge of these programs or have some influence on the politics. You folks would *NEVER* figure it out "collectively" even if some people eventually started to jump ship.
Thank you for suporting my above comments. You realize that the "you folks" you put in there includes, well, pretty much everyone besides you who studies the sun?
Sorry folks, but I'm not going to wallow around in ignorance my whole life chasing after your math bunnies. Your theories do not jive with reality and the satellite images blow your beliefs out of the water. I can see that thin green line on the horizon even if the rest of you are blind.
You've done a good job of wallowing in ignorance so far. And...really...math bunnies?
You do realize that pretty much every scientific theory since Newton has had the math to back it up?
So we're moving science back to the days of Aristotle?
Seriously, grow up, get over yourself, and try to LEARN something about the sun before you decide everyone else in the world is wrong.
