Lambda-CDM theory - Woo or not?

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You have reality standing on it's head now DRD. I reject your religion for exactly the same reason I reject other religions.
My religion?

Care to share with us all what you think it is, and the empirical^, objective, independently verifiable evidence for your conclusions?

Your unseen entities are evidently entirely impotent on Earth!
My unseen entities?

Care to share with us all what you think they are, and the empirical^, objective, independently verifiable evidence for your conclusions?

It's really not my fault that you choose to "have faith" in the "unseen". It's not my fault you have no physical justification for claiming "dark energy did it" or "inflation did it" when it comes to lambda. The fact you cannot show an empirical cause/effect relationship in the lab is no more my fault than it's my fault that a creationist cannot support their beliefs in the lab! You're simply blaming me for not "having faith" in *your* religion.

To use GM's technique, here's how to read this:
It's really not my fault that you choose to !@#$% in the "&*(#. It's not my fault you have no physical justification for claiming *&$# or %$%#@& when it comes to lambda. The fact you cannot show an empirical cause/effect relationship in the lab is no more my fault than it's my fault that a creationist cannot support their beliefs in the lab! You're simply blaming me for not $(&#@@ in *your* religion.
As has been pointed out, several times, GR has indeed been tested "in the lab" (as well as in the lab) - check out the Pound Rebka experimentWP, for example. It's also been tested, in a great many ways, in the lab which is the observable universe, as well as in orbit around the Earth (e.g. Gravity Probe B).

Now I'll be the first to admit that it's possible none of these demonstrations of an empirical cause/effect relationship - whether in the lab or not - meet your own, personal, criteria ... but then, so far, you are the only one who can say! :p And why is that? Well, in part because no one else (it seems) understands what you mean by the key terms you use, much less how to apply those criteria in an objective, independently verifiable way.

^ as opposed to "empirical", which, as you've never defined it, is meaningless
 
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As has been pointed out, several times, GR has indeed been tested "in the lab" (as well as in the lab)

Yes, and it is consistently "attractive", not "repulsive". Shall we just call your religion the "dark repulsive religion"?

Show me one experiment on Earth where gravity becomes "repulsive".
 
Now I'll be the first to admit that it's possible none of these demonstrations of an empirical cause/effect relationship - whether in the lab or not - meet your own, personal, criteria ... but then, so far, you are the only one who can say! :p And why is that?

Um, probably because you're all working hard at not comprehending the difference between something that shows up in the lab and something that does not? Where do I go to get some "dark energy" to play with in a the lab? Where can I expect to round up a specific measured quantity of inflation?
 
DeiRenDopa said:
As has been pointed out, several times, GR has indeed been tested "in the lab" (as well as in the lab)
Yes, and it is consistently "attractive", not "repulsive". Shall we just call your religion the "dark repulsive religion"?

Show me one experiment on Earth where gravity becomes "repulsive".
Sorry, I ran this through the elgooG translator, and it came out thus:

Yes, and it is consistently %@##( not (*!!%. Shall we just call your religion the $$%%##?

I have no idea what you just wrote - care to clarify, using ordinary English (not MM) words?
 
I was really a very simple question. I take it that means "no"?
It was a simple question with a simple answer - Your ignorance has lead you to think there is a "an empirical cause/effect relationship between lambda and inflation". There is no relationsihip at all between lambda and inflation.

You were wrong in reading his mind. dogguy's'swer was that you continue to spout nonsense and so there is not point in reading your posts.

Michael,
Nothing you have to say has any interest for me. I stopped reading your posts a long time ago. I only read this one because it was a direct reply to my post. I will now continue to skip over your nonsense and learn from the posts of those who know what they are talking about. Goodbye.
 
What is amazing to me is that fact that you personally give them a "free pass" when it comes to "qualifying" their claims. ...

Them? Who is "them?" "Them" are us: physicists, cosmologists, astronomers, astrophysicists are mankind's specialists in this arena. They are those who have paid their dues, worked, studied, learned and expanded our knowledge of the universe. If there is a "them" here it is those lazy petulant crackpots who refuse to attempt to understand real science and persist in pursuing toddler-level physics.
 
DeiRenDopa said:
Now I'll be the first to admit that it's possible none of these demonstrations of an empirical cause/effect relationship - whether in the lab or not - meet your own, personal, criteria ... but then, so far, you are the only one who can say! And why is that?
Um, probably because you're all working hard at not comprehending the difference between something that shows up in the lab and something that does not?
What part of this sentence do you not understand?

GR has indeed been tested "in the lab" (as well as in the lab).

Where do I go to get some "dark energy" to play with in a the lab?
Sorry, I ran this through the elgooG translator, and it came out thus:

Where do I go to get some **&&%%# to play with in a the lab?

The answer to your question is: I have no idea, if only because I do not know what **&&%%# is.

Where can I expect to round up a specific measured quantity of inflation?
Perhaps if you'd care to clarify what you mean by "a specific measured quantity of", I may be able to take a stab at answering this.

Specifically, please give a concrete example (and be sure to specify the units).
 
Um, probably because you're all working hard at not comprehending the difference between something that shows up in the lab and something that does not? Where do I go to get some "dark energy" to play with in a the lab? Where can I expect to round up a specific measured quantity of inflation?

Um, probably because you're all working hard at not comprehending the difference between something that shows up in the lab and something that does not? Where do I go to get some "Sun" to play with in a the lab? Where can I expect to round up a specific measured quantity of quasar?

:dl:
Um, probably because you're working hard at not comprehending the scientific process that exists in the real world and believing in a inconsistent delusion in your head?​
 
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Them? Who is "them?" "Them" are us: physicists, cosmologists, astronomers, astrophysicists are mankind's specialists in this arena. They are those who have paid their dues, worked, studied, learned and expanded our knowledge of the universe. If there is a "them" here it is those lazy petulant crackpots who refuse to attempt to understand real science and persist in pursuing toddler-level physics.

If I were asking you to demonstrate a qualified cause/effect relationship between acceleration and gravity it would be a walk in the park for you. Likewise If I asked you to demonstrate a cause effect relationship between plasma acceleration and the EM field, you could easily do that too. It's only because you cannot show any empirical cause/effect relationship between "acceleration' and inflation or dark energy that I am now being belittled and ridiculed instead of you simply providing the information I requested. Oh well.
 
Gah! No! Einstein's lambda was directly related to gravity.

So is inflation.

There is a clear empirical link between gravity and acceleration of objects in spacetime.

Which produces repulsion... how? Sorry, never seen that happen in a lab. Yet you think Einstein was justified in inserting this repulsive term into an equation, even without any empirical evidence for its existence. Why?

Einstein's lambda was empirically qualified even if it was eventually falsified.

Once again: what the hell does this mean?
 
http://arxiv.org/abs/1005.4345

Oh ya, I almost forgot, even with all your invisible friends, you still have an age problem that just won't seem to go away.
Interesting preprint.

What makes you so certain that the authors' conclusions will even make it into a published paper (an awful lot of preprints have significant changes made to them, before they are accepted for publication)?

And even if (when) it is published, what makes you so certain that the authors' conclusions will stand up to the usual scrutiny?

In short, aren't you using one of the standard tactics of creationists (cherry picking, to give it a two-word name)?
 
Yes, and it is consistently "attractive", not "repulsive".

(I can parse this at all only by foolishly assuming that the words mean what they normally mean and that there are meant to be logical connections between them. But that's as generous as I can be on this nonsense.)

Your statement is wrong wrong wrong. GR experiments cannot be described as "consistently attractive". The only thing you can say about them is that they're consistently motion through spacetime obeying GR. Frame dragging isn't an attraction. Gravitational radiation (from the Hulse-Taylor pulsars) isn't an attraction. Geodetic precession isn't an attraction. The ergosphere around a Kerr black hole isn't straightforwardly attractive. Two masses accelerating towards each other? That IS an attraction, but more importantly it's motion through spacetime obeying GR.

Objects in Lambda-CDM cosmology are also motion through spacetime obeying GR. It's not just two-masses attracting, so what? Neither is it just-frame-dragging nor just-gravitational-radiation. It's like rejecting Kepler's laws "because the planets are not apples and Newton's Laws apply to apples" or something.

If you think GR is right enough to describe attraction, then it's also right enough to include lambda and/or dark energy. There's no in-between belief unless you're just making stuff up, which you are.

Mercy! Mercy! Let it die!
 
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5952457&postcount=2857

Really? You guys really need to keep your stories straight and come to some sort of "consensus' on this stuff.
Really? You need to learn to understand what you read:
It's related to both, of course. As someone that has spent uncounted hours deriding inflation and dark energy as nonsense, you really should know that.

One of your problems, Michael, is that you never take the time to learn the basics of these topics, and when people explain them to you you ignore the explanations (which is why I'm not expounding on my comment).
There is no statement in the post that lambda caused inflation and so there is a causal relation.

Lambda is related to both dark energy and inflation. The relation is .... lambda is in General Relativity, GR is used in inflationary theories :jaw-dropp !
(sorry folks, I know that mentioning that there are different inflationary theories will really confuse MM)
 
Let's see: I am a layman with an interest in physics and cosmology. On the one hand, I have the theories of thousands of specialists throughout the world, who have dedicated their lives to these subjects, whose conclusions are based on the methods and standards of evidence of science. On the other hand, I have (I think) a computer programmer with a minimal education in physics and cosmology claiming he has the inside scoop on GR and its application to cosmic expansion and acceleration and his statements are inconsistent with history, logic and my own knowledge of physics. Who to believe? Who to believe? Who to believe? It's a troubling dilemma!:confused:
 
You are completely wrong.

Is there anything we can explain to you, any equation we can write, any reference we can give you, that will get you to understand and admit that you are mistaken? If not, do you think there is any point in continuing the conversation?

Would you continue to argue with someone who claimed that the primary language spoken in France was Japanese, and stubbornly kept insisting on that no matter what evidence and logic to the contrary you presented? To make the analogy more exact you are a linguist, you live in France, speak French fluently, have many French friends from all walks of society and from all over the country, and travel regularly across France doing research on French dialects. The other person lives in Australia, speaks only English, and has never traveled outside her small town in the outback.

Yes or no?

Well?
 
Accelerating Universe & Gravity

Tusenfem tells us ...
Naturally, every first year physics student learns that only mass inside the sphere makes gravity. The notion of a huge universe outside of what we can observe pulling our little corner apart is preposterous.
And Mozina responds ...
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080923-dark-flows.html
Unless of course you folks propose it and add the word "dark" in there somewhere, is that it?

The flows are already called "dark", despite the fact that they are actually "bright" structures made up of galaxies and galaxy clusters. These very large scale flows were first reported in Kashlinsky, et al., 2008 & Kashlinsky, et al., 2009. They see large scale flows out to about 300h-1 Mpc. Kashlinsky, et al., 2010 extend this result to larger catalogs with more galaxies, better data and improved error analysis, and extending out to about 800 Mpc, with the signal peaking at about 500h-1 Mpc.


Fig. 2 displays the results obtained in this study compared to the expectations from the concordance LCDM cosmology for 95% of cosmic observers. These results cast doubt on the notion that gravitational instability from the observed mass distribution is the sole - or even dominant - cause of the detected motion. If the current picture is confirmed, it will have profound implications for our understanding of the global structure of space-time and our Universe's place in it.
Kashlinsky, et al., 2010, conclusions at end of paper.

Keisler, 2009 argues that Kashlinsky, et al., 2008, overestimated the statistical significance of their results. However, Atrio-Barandela, 2010 disputes that claim. Meanwhile, Mersini-Houghton & Holman, 2009 argue in favor of "superhorizon inhomogeneities induced by nonlocal entanglement of our Hubble volume with modes and domains beyond the horizon" as the cause for the large scale flows. This must be where the news report comment about "mass outside the visible universe" comes from.

In any case, we can say that these results are interesting, but the notion that they are somehow fatal to LCDM cosmology is wishful thinking and nothing more than that. At worst, it may mean that the concordance model needs to be modified to make it consistent with observations, which is hardly unprecedented in the annals of science.

Now let me say that these flows are totally irrelevant to the question. As usual, Mozina has no idea what he is talking about. The "dark flows" are extremely anisotropic, while the accelerated expansion of the universe is extremely isotropic, exactly opposite from the "dark flows". Clearly the "dark flows" are a separate phenomenon from the cosmological expansion.

Now, Mozina did say ...
Gravity can easily be empirically linked to "acceleration". It's therefore "possible" that mass outside of our visible universe "attracts" the mass inside out universe and "accelerates" that mass over time.

The obvious implication is that he thinks the accelerated expansion of the universe is caused by gravity pulling from the outside. But the accelerated expansion of the universe is the same in all direction, very unlike the "dark flows" he linked to (once again choosing a news report rather than a science paper). One might naively assume that a spherically symmetrical distribution of matter around but outside the visible universe would cause an equally symmetrical outward acceleration. But one would be naively wrong, since, as tusenfem points out, it is physically impossible. Any freshman physics student will (or at least should) learn that the gravitational acceleration due to a spherically symmetrical shell of mass is exactly zero everywhere inside the shell. So that naive solution is obviously wrong, by virtue of being impossible.

So that leaves the question still not properly answered:
OK, since you think it is so easy, then do it.
Question: What is the "easy" link between the apparently repulsive, accelerated expansion of the universe and the apparently attractive force of gravity?

Like I said before ...
Who else could have realized that the universe is flying apart because of a fundamental force which only manifests itself by pulling things together. A truly amazing intellectual feat.

If Mozina thinks that the accelerated expansion of the universe is caused by gravity pulling from outside, he thinks wrong. The only explanation for accelerated cosmological expansion is a repulsion from within, and not an attraction from without.

Footnote: Cosmological distances are often presented in such form as I have done here, copying from the paper, e.g., 500h-1 Mpc. A distance like "800 Mpc" depends on an assumed value for the Hubble Constant (H); change H and the distance changes too. So cosmologists re-write the Hubble constant from H km/sec/Mpc to 100h km/sec/Mpc. So if we assume H = 70 km/sec/Mpc, then h = 0.7. By expressing the distance in terms of h the explicit dependence on H is removed. The reader can translate the distance into a straight number of Mpc, in light of your favorite value for H. And remember, 1 Mpc = 1 megaparsec = 3,260,000 light years.
 

Well?

Maybe your lack to accept that any valid points are made by *the other side* even when you know some points are valid could change? I've made plenty of concessions. Your mantra that all that is posted is completely wrong in every way is obviously false, especially when it comes to the long peer reviewed published papers that you seem to repeatedly gloss over and ignore.
 
Well?

Maybe your lack to accept that any valid points are made by *the other side* even when you know some points are valid could change? I've made plenty of concessions. Your mantra that all that is posted is completely wrong in every way is obviously false, especially when it comes to the long peer reviewed published papers that you seem to repeatedly gloss over and ignore.
Lerner does not claim that "Lambda-CDM theory" is woo (so what's your point?)

There are some 45 references cited.

The most recent is, AFAICS, 2003, around the time that the WMAP First-Year papers appeared as preprints.

Nine references are works by Lerner himself.

Two are by Peratt, and three by Alfvén.

A great deal has happened, in cosmology, since 2003.

For example, consistency between WMAP estimates of various LCDM parameters and completely independent estimates (e.g. from BAO) has been shown (see the Seven-Year WMAP papers, for example), directly addressing one of Lerner's strongest points concerning the CMB (note that some of Lerner's points on this are based on his apparent misunderstanding of LCDM models).

But, and this is perhaps the most pertinent thing, what does anything in this document by Lerner have to do with the specific claims MM made (the ones that sol is addressing)?

So, Z, give us the straight scoop please ... if you think LCDM cosmological models are (scientific) woo, why? And if you don't, why this post of yours?
 
Well?
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Well, I thnk you missed the point of sol invictus's post.

It was a comment on the crackpot nature of Michael Mozina's thought process
  • the evidence is that he has never bothered to learn much about the Lambda-CDM model, its match with data, its predictions or the testing of these predictions.
  • he remains ignorant of General Relativity, states his opinion from this position of ignorance and expects us to think him competent. For example, just in this one post on the 24th of May 2010 , he
    • thinks that lambda (the cosmological constant) is caused by gravity.
    • regurgitates his incorrect assertion that lambda cannot produce repulsive forces.
      In fact (as has been pointed out to him many times) a non-zero lambda in GR gives negative pressure, i.e. a replusive force. This would cause an effect of increasing the rate of expansion of the universe which is observed. Thus lambda is a candidate for what scientists call this cause - dark energy.
    • spouts his nonsense of requiring science to be done by his personal definition of empirical.
      Of course he never defines or keeps to a specific definiton. It seems to be only things that can be tested here in a lab exist or have ever existed. Well goodbye universe/neutron star/galaxy/etc since we have never had one in a lab :eye-poppi!
 
bah so many people are using words that are not helping matters i'm thinking this discussion will never be settled, not due to the science, but to the emotively induced responces that this confrontational attitude invokes. Back and forth, back and forth. FOREVER :eek:
 
bah so many people are using words that are not helping matters i'm thinking this discussion will never be settled,
Yourself among them? For example, what's a "paper" Z?

not due to the science, but to the emotively induced responces that this confrontational attitude invokes. Back and forth, back and forth. FOREVER :eek:
No surprise there ... if you don't recognise that to do science you need clear, precise, mutually understood key terms, your comment is entirely reasonable.

May we take this as an admission that you do not accept the need for definitions in science?

And may I have a direct answer to my questions?

Here they are again: So, Z, give us the straight scoop please ... if you think LCDM cosmological models are (scientific) woo, why? And if you don't, why this post of yours?

If you don't give straight answers, is it reasonable to conclude that you are merely trolling?
 
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... i'm thinking this discussion will never be settled, ...

This discussion was settled before it began. Lambda-CDM theory is science; Mozina's fantasies are not. The duration of the thread is due to knowledgeable people honestly attempting to education Mozina, who clearly is stuck in his non-mathematical Aristotelian-like world, which consists of looking at something and guessing its nature.
 
This discussion was settled before it began. Lambda-CDM theory is science; Mozina's fantasies are not.

It's a "fantasy" that any of the mainstream's invisible friends have anything at all to do with lambda.

The duration of the thread is due to knowledgeable people honestly attempting to education Mozina,

The only reason it's a long thread is because you can't produce a qualified demonstration of concept. If your heroes could have done that, it would have been a very short conversation. As it stands, it's a horrifically long excuse filled thread that demonstrates none of you can produce a cause/effect qualified demonstration of any of your invisible friends. The only one "guessing" at the nature of anything are those who propose inflation and "dark energies". That's about as wild a "guess" at it gets too.
 

Well what? I showed you that Einstein's use of lambda did not cause space to expand, and it was purely 'qualified' physics theory, even if it was eventually falsified. That's light years ahead of the nonsense you folks have been peddling that has no physical qualification whatsoever. There is no "cause/effect" relationship that was ever established between lambda/acceleration and your mythical metaphysical entities. The whole thing is a "religion" based on "blind faith" in the "unseen".

All any of you had to do is establish a cause/effect relationship between acceleration/lambda and your mythical friends. Since none of you can do that, it's just one excuse after another, and blame, blame, blame of the skeptic. Like all creation myths however, when push came to shove, you could not demonstrate that your unseen entities are real, or have any effect on nature.
 
It's a "fantasy" that any of the mainstream's invisible friends have anything at all to do with lambda.



The only reason it's a long thread is because you can't produce a qualified demonstration of concept. If your heroes could have done that, it would have been a very short conversation. As it stands, it's a horrifically long excuse filled thread that demonstrates none of you can produce a cause/effect qualified demonstration of any of your invisible friends. The only one "guessing" at the nature of anything are those who propose inflation and "dark energies". That's about as wild a "guess" at it gets too.
Translating this into something based on what is mutually comprehensible:

It's a @#%^$$ that any of the mainstream's )(&*%*T@% have anything at all to do with lambda.

The only reason it's a long thread is because you can't produce a ^%&%%@ of concept. If your heroes could have done that, it would have been a very short conversation. As it stands, it's a horrifically long excuse filled thread that demonstrates none of you can produce a $$!!%%@@** of any of your )(&*%*T@%. The only one #!#$$ at the nature of anything are those who propose inflation and %$##@!. That's about as wild a #!#$ at it gets too.
Hmm, that's pretty unintelligible, wouldn't you agree?
 
It's a "fantasy" [...]

Well what? [...]


A few more words added...

Michael applies meanings different than the common usage for the words and phrases that he puts in quote marks. Below is an ongoing list of terms which he has surrounded with quotes but is so far unable or unwilling to define. Until he can define these terms, all of his arguments using any of them amount to meaningless nonsense.

The list...

  • absolute
  • acceleration
  • accepted
  • act of faith
  • ad hoc
  • assumed
  • attractive
  • background
  • ballpark
  • bang
  • believer
  • best
  • better
  • caught on
  • cause
  • cause/effect
  • confused
  • control mechanism
  • correct
  • create
  • creativity
  • dark energies
  • dark energy
  • dark energy did it
  • dark energy of the gaps
  • dark matter
  • dead
  • decent
  • discovery
  • emotional
  • empirical science
  • empirically
  • empirically demonstrated
  • empirically qualified
  • empirically quantified
  • empty space
  • expanding
  • expanding space
  • explaining
  • extra energy
  • falsified
  • fantasy
  • flavors
  • gravity
  • guess
  • guessing
  • hairy inflation
  • hairy moflation
  • ignore anything that falsifies the concept of exotic matter
  • ignore the cause of the lambda
  • in the ballpark
  • inflation
  • inflation did it
  • interpret
  • invent
  • invented
  • it's not my fault
  • lab tested
  • lamba
  • logically impossible
  • making up
  • mathematical perfection
  • measurable
  • metaphysical baggage
  • modified to fit
  • narrow the range
  • negative
  • negative pressure
  • negative pressures in a vacuum
  • no show
  • not having faith
  • observational evidence
  • observed acceleration
  • physics
  • physics in general
  • popular
  • positive pressure vacuum
  • postdicted
  • postdicting a fit
  • predicted
  • pretend
  • pretend entities
  • properly
  • properties
  • pseudoscience
  • put faith
  • qualification
  • qualify
  • relative
  • religion
  • ruled in
  • scale
  • science
  • sciences
  • simplicity
  • space
  • space expands
  • spacetime
  • spin
  • static
  • superiority
  • test
  • throw it out
  • tweak
  • tweaked
  • tweaked to fit
  • unseen
  • unseen entities
  • unusual
  • verification
  • verify
  • wind down
  • woo
  • woo with make believe math
  • zero
 
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Hmm, that's pretty unintelligible, wouldn't you agree?


Actually you have to consider the other terms that have been used in quotes in other posts, also. Here's how it translates...

It's a "$^!^%!" that any of the mainstream's invisible friends have anything at all to do with $@Q$^.

The only reason it's a long thread is because you can't produce a *#^&## demonstration of concept. If your heroes could have done that, it would have been a very short conversation. As it stands, it's a horrifically long excuse filled thread that demonstrates none of you can produce a ^%$%@% &@$^ demonstration of any of your invisible friends. The only one "&#%&@" at the nature of anything are those who propose $!$%@# and "%&@%". That's about as wild a "*^&#" at it gets too.
 
Well what? I showed you that Einstein's use of lambda did not cause space to expand, and it was purely 'qualified' physics theory, even if it was eventually falsified. That's light years ahead of the nonsense you folks have been peddling that has no physical qualification whatsoever. There is no "cause/effect" relationship that was ever established between lambda/acceleration and your mythical metaphysical entities. The whole thing is a "religion" based on "blind faith" in the "unseen".
As has already been said, that solution was unstable. Half that instability is an accelerating expansion, so it's misleading at best to say it "did not cause space to expand".
 
Once again, Michael, what the hell does this mean?

I think MM means that laboratory confirmed force that keeps two masses from attracting eachother. That is what Einstein used. I think you can see that magical measurement instrument in the Einstein exhibition in Bern. But you only get to see it when you show your real-physicist club card.
 
Once again, Michael, what the hell does this mean?

It means that Einstein's use of lambda was based on pure physics, unlike your theories which are based on 96% woo, with 4% real physics thrown in to make it look legit.

Einstein's theory could be falsified because it was based on pure physics. The reason your theories defy falsification is because they are based on 3 different forms of metaphysics where the variable properties of these ad hoc entities can change anytime it suits you. Need a little "dark flow", no problem! Just tweak whatever suits your fancy and viola, a "fix" is found.

It's so much easier to play make-believe physics like you guys do. Anything is possible because the gumby variables are infinitely changeable at will. Nobody had to demonstrate any of this stuff in the lab, and the dark matter paper I cited a week or so ago demonstrates that you'll simply deny whatever evidence doesn't fit your religion.
 
As has already been said, that solution was unstable. Half that instability is an accelerating expansion, so it's misleading at best to say it "did not cause space to expand".

Excuse me edd, but this really does sound like pure denial on your part. Einstein's universe was "static". It didn't move. "Spacetime" did not expand, and "space" (whatever the hell that is) certainly didn't "expand". Nothing expanded.
 
Actually you have to consider the other terms that have been used in quotes in other posts, also. Here's how it translates...


".......since we cannot empirically demonstrate any of the three metaphysical invisible friends in our lambda-gumby theory, we'll just bash the messenger some more.".

Yawn. You epically failed to even acknowledge that the CDM side of your theory took a huge hit in those xenon experiments. How long does this denial thing continue anyway?
 
It means that Einstein's use of lambda was based on pure physics

You're running around in circles. This tells me nothing. What does it mean to be "based on pure physics"?

Einstein's theory could be falsified because it was based on pure physics.

Lots of things can be falsified without being "based on pure physics" (whatever the hell that means). And why does being "based on pure physics" mean that it's automatically falsifiable?

The reason your theories defy falsification

But they don't. You keep saying this, but that doesn't make it true. Plenty of people have told you how those theories could be falsified.

It's so much easier to play make-believe physics like you guys do.

Really? Then you should have gotten in on the scam and become a professional cosmologist, since it's so easy. All you need to do is learn some general relativity....

...oh...

...oh.

Guess it's not so easy after all.

Anything is possible because the gumby variables are infinitely changeable at will.

Except they aren't.

Nobody had to demonstrate any of this stuff in the lab

Einstein never demonstrated anything in lab. And if you try to say "he could drop things and watch them fall", slap yourself five times. His lambda was repulsive. You can't show repulsive gravity in a lab.

and the dark matter paper I cited a week or so ago demonstrates that you'll simply deny whatever evidence doesn't fit your religion.

It would help if you had a clue about what you read, but you don't.
 
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