[Merged] CDI explosive loader Tom Sullivan / ae911 / explosive demolition

walkyrie · 12th June 2010, 12:58 PM

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!

Quad4_72 · 12th June 2010, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!

He didn't offer a SINGLE shred of evidence in support of his claims. His main argument was that since WTC7 LOOKED like a demolition that meant that it WAS a demolition. And since 7 was a demolition, that meant the rest of it probably was as well. Why did you post a nutter making claims without evidence? Very poor taste indeed.

DGM · 12th June 2010, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!

Why is it that you question the "official" story every chance you get but, accept anything that's counter without question?

TexasJack · 12th June 2010, 01:13 PM

Isn't this the guy that CDI denies ever working for them?

leftysergeant · 12th June 2010, 01:22 PM

He worked for CDI? As what? A janitor?

Got a curriculum vitae for his life?

T.A.M. · 12th June 2010, 01:29 PM

I work for CDI. Do you work for CDI? Apparently for the truth movement, the only proof needed is his word.

Did I mention I also work for the FBI, CIA, KGB, and NWO?

TAM

sheeplesnshills · 12th June 2010, 01:49 PM

[quote]

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

Can he point to ANY CD that looked like the collapses of World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

The only one that looks vaguely like a CD is 7 but there were no explosions so typical of a CD. What looked even remotely "controlled" about the WTC1 and 2?
Its hard to imagine a less controlled collapse!

332nd · 12th June 2010, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!

Well then... I guess the truth movement will finally decend on Washington and demand a new investigation. Also I imagine that in a few months when Sullivan, his family, and his friends aren't dead or had their lives ruined by the government, all of those experts (even the ones with evidence!!) Will come forward and justice will be served...

Right?

ElMondoHummus · 12th June 2010, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Quad4_72

He didn't offer a SINGLE shred of evidence in support of his claims. His main argument was that since WTC7 LOOKED like a demolition that meant that it WAS a demolition. And since 7 was a demolition, that meant the rest of it probably was as well. Why did you post a nutter making claims without evidence? Very poor taste indeed.

Funny... Danny Jowenko disagrees with Sullivan regarding the main towers. But to truthers, that's not evidence of cognitive dissonance in their stances.

And: Agreed, Quad. It's getting pretty damn tiring that all we ever see are these baseless, unsupported opinions based on superficialities. It just goes to show that most conspiracy addicts don't even know the details of the collapse, since they don't seem to realize the utter lack of evidence given by these folks they cite.

Cl1mh4224rd · 12th June 2010, 03:35 PM

This is just further evidence in support of my hypothesis that truthers aren't looking for "experts" to help them discover the truth about 9/11; they're simply looking for "experts" to tell them they already found it.

Trojan · 12th June 2010, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!

So is this expert going to publish a paper? Will he provide investigation details, evidence and conclusions?

Or is this just another argument from incredulity to sit on the thermite shelf?

The Big Dog · 12th June 2010, 03:58 PM

Guys bad news.

He did work for CDI.

As a photographer.

/Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement!

BigAl · 12th June 2010, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by 16.5

Guys bad news.

He did work for CDI.

As a photographer.

/Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement!

So he's an expert in "looks like".

Got a source for this?

tsig · 12th June 2010, 04:05 PM

[quote=sheeplesnshills;6027085]

Quote:

Can he point to ANY CD that looked like the collapses of World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

The only one that looks vaguely like a CD is 7 but there were no explosions so typical of a CD. What looked even remotely "controlled" about the WTC1 and 2?
Its hard to imagine a less controlled collapse!

Odd I just asked that in another thread.

The big argument is that it looked like CD yet I have never seen a link posted to a CD that looked like 1, 2 and 7.

Thunder · 12th June 2010, 04:39 PM

wow...this guy claims to have known from DAY 1, before any evidence was gathered, that the collapses were all CDs. what a schmuck.

what a bull **** schmuck.

how can ANYONE claim to be searching for the truth about what happened that day, disregarding all the findings of NIST, FEMA, and countless other organizations, but believe the stupid words of a moron who claims to have known what happened on 9/12/01???????

one cannot claim to have a shred of intellectual honesty, and yet pay attention to someone who claims to know what happened on "day 1".

The Big Dog · 12th June 2010, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by BigAl

So he's an expert in "looks like".

Got a source for this?

http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611

Thunder · 12th June 2010, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by 16.5

http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611

no degree. no certification. just lots of bold amateur/novice opinions.

sounds like a Truther's gold mine of expertise.

ElMondoHummus · 12th June 2010, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by 16.5

Guys bad news.

He did work for CDI.

As a photographer.

/Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement!

That doesn't in and of itself mean that he doesn't have any knowledge or experience. As a contrast, Brent Blanchard is an editor for Implosion World, and is an operations manager at Protec, so I don't believe he's actually implemented or supervised an explosive demolition. Yet, the knowledge he's garnered as a historian of the industry, as well as his experience from surveying, documenting, and consulting at Protec makes him eminently qualified to comment on demolitions and truther theories regarding such.

No, Tom Sullivan's failure doesn't reside in his knowledge or expertise. It lays in his lack of evidence. Accuracy or lack of such always lays in the argument itself, not the person forwarding it. Even if all he was was a photographer for CDI, I'll respect his credentials. It's his argument that matters.

Thunder · 12th June 2010, 06:18 PM

Tom Sullivan says he knew on "Day 1", that it was a CD.

This makes his views pretty worthless.

There are lots of videos on Youtube of buildings going down, and its caused by only gravity and age.

triforcharity · 12th June 2010, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by leftysergeant

He worked for CDI? As what? A janitor?

Got a curriculum vitae for his life?

No, he worked for CDI as a FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER. I and Ron Weick have contacted Stacy @ CDI, and confirms that he worked as a PHOTOGRAPHER for them. Nothing more.

Thunder · 12th June 2010, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by triforcharity

No, he worked for CDI as a FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER. I and Ron Weick have contacted Stacy @ CDI, and confirms that he worked as a PHOTOGRAPHER for them. Nothing more.

in the video, he claims that he was an explosives technician.

was this a lie?

triforcharity · 12th June 2010, 06:34 PM

Thunder,

It was claimed, but nothing was ever provided. CDI agrees that he worked for them as a photographer, and nothing more. You cannot become an explosive loader without having your employer verify your competence. Since he was a photographer, I highly doubt that he was a loader.

None-the-less, it doesn't really matter, as his conclusions are all based on ************.

Thunder · 12th June 2010, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by triforcharity

Thunder,

It was claimed, but nothing was ever provided. CDI agrees that he worked for them as a photographer, and nothing more. You cannot become an explosive loader without having your employer verify your competence. Since he was a photographer, I highly doubt that he was a loader.

ah...so not only is he a schmuck..but he is a lying schmuck.

great Truther material. he will probably be interviewed by AJ and Luke shortly as a hero who will "blow the lid off of 9-11!!!!!!".

BigAl · 12th June 2010, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by triforcharity

Thunder,

It was claimed, but nothing was ever provided. CDI agrees that he worked for them as a photographer, and nothing more. You cannot become an explosive loader without having your employer verify your competence. Since he was a photographer, I highly doubt that he was a loader.

None-the-less, it doesn't really matter, as his conclusions are all based on ************.

According to this page he has a FDNY explosives "loader" license.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread569606/pg1

Here's his ae911 profile. No mention of any license.

Quote:

Worked for CDI during the time of 911 as a both a site still photographer and as an explosive loader. Worked on projects such as Seattle King dome, Three Rivers Stadium, Philadelphia Naval Hospital, Key span Gas Holders among others. Went to H.S. with Doug Loizeaux so I had a unique insider look while I was employed by them. I had published work in the book Implosion published by Black Dog publishing.

http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611

An Internet search finds no book called "Implosion " by this publisher.

http://blackdogonline.com/

Quad4_72 · 12th June 2010, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by ElMondoHummus

Funny... Danny Jowenko disagrees with Sullivan regarding the main towers. But to truthers, that's not evidence of cognitive dissonance in their stances.

And: Agreed, Quad. It's getting pretty damn tiring that all we ever see are these baseless, unsupported opinions based on superficialities. It just goes to show that most conspiracy addicts don't even know the details of the collapse, since they don't seem to realize the utter lack of evidence given by these folks they cite.

Seems that there is no shortage of STUPID in the world these days. The guy in the video clearly has no idea WTF he is talking about but twoofers just slurp it up. They are so impressionable lol.

Quad4_72 · 12th June 2010, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!

Appeal to authority much too? Except in this case, I think you need to pick another authority for your logical fallacy. This one doesn't help your case much...

T.A.M. · 12th June 2010, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by ElMondoHummus

Funny... Danny Jowenko disagrees with Sullivan regarding the main towers. But to truthers, that's not evidence of cognitive dissonance in their stances.

And: Agreed, Quad. It's getting pretty damn tiring that all we ever see are these baseless, unsupported opinions based on superficialities. It just goes to show that most conspiracy addicts don't even know the details of the collapse, since they don't seem to realize the utter lack of evidence given by these folks they cite.

Yes, I think we should call it doing a "Gage". Just like Richard Gage, who uses his "credentials" as an architect to lend a FALSE sense of authority to his words, but simply parrots the same, tire old canards of the TM without a bit of his so called "expertise" exhibited or used to back up the claims.

Sullivan is simply doing a "Gage".

TAM

T.A.M. · 12th June 2010, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by 16.5

Guys bad news.

He did work for CDI.

As a photographer.

/Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement!

lol...that is priceless...absolutely priceless.

TAM

leftysergeant · 16th June 2010, 06:03 AM

Is he related to Willie, by any chance?

Thunder · 16th June 2010, 07:09 AM

How do we get "pulling a Gage" into the dictionary?

grandmastershek · 16th June 2010, 09:30 AM

by "explosives loader" he probably means:

"Hey Tom! Can you give me hand getting this into the truck?"

tsig · 16th June 2010, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by grandmastershek

by "explosives loader" he probably means:

"Hey Tom! Can you give me hand getting this into the truck?"

Maybe he just had gas.

grandmastershek · 30th June 2010, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by grandmastershek

by "explosives loader" he probably means:

"Hey Tom! Can you give me hand getting this into the truck?"

I was close. An article at ae911truth has his permit as a "powder carrier", but he refers to himself as a "loader".

http://www.ae911truth.org/news/41-ar...-employee.html

http://www2.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611

What does that mean?

"The Powder Carrier is essentially an apprentice Blaster, assisting the Blaster with loading:
( preparing primer cartridges and charges, wiring / hookup, setting off the shots ) and paperwork,
such as recording quantities of explosives used and shot times.

Explosives loaders help the Blaster and Powder Carrier in transporting explosives to and from
the magazines and handling explosives during loading operations."

http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/cof...y_material.pdf

At best he's an assistant. According to him he is the assistant to the assistant...and isn't even allowed to have a set of keys.

"Only the Blaster, Powder Carrier and Magazine Keeper may have keys
to the Magazines and accept delivery of explosives at the work site."

willhaven · 30th June 2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by walkyrie

Controlled Demolition Expert Photographer Tom Sullivan , his Statement about 9/11

thecritta · 1st July 2010, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by triforcharity

No, he worked for CDI as a FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER. I and Ron Weick have contacted Stacy @ CDI, and confirms that he worked as a PHOTOGRAPHER for them. Nothing more.

Well actually he did work for CDI as a photographer and a explosives
loader according to the documentation contained in these links.

http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/in...van_CDI_W2.jpg

http://cms.ae911truth.org/news/41-ar...-employee.html

And it even has the the words "POWDER CARRIER" listen in his permit.

So I guess that makes Stacey Loizeaux from CDI a proven liar because
she denied ever having know him or him being an employee of CDI because
someone called CDI to confirm whether or not he was an employee.

excaza · 1st July 2010, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by thecritta

So I guess that makes Stacey Loizeaux from CDI a proven liar because she denied ever having know him or him being an employee of CDI because someone called CDI to confirm whether or not he was an employee.

Yes, someone did call CDI. You quoted the post. CDI confirmed he was employed as a photographer. So the above statement is false and now you're a proven liar. Gosh, this is fun!

Scott Sommers · 1st July 2010, 05:08 AM

This is very strange. The fact is, the guy is not who is he is being claimed to be. That's just a fact. So forget about the idea that an explosives expert from CDI ever said there was a controlled demolition on 911. Just forget about it, and go look for other reasons to believe this.

You guys may be able to fool some high school students or some whacked out militia types, but there's nothing you can take anywhere except a bar room conversation. You may have proof. I don't believe you do, but sure as Hell, I can tell you this isn't it. Just stop it. It embarrasses you. Maybe you don't mind looking like a mormon, but that's another thing I don't know about. Just forget about this. It's not true.

kookbreaker · 1st July 2010, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by grandmastershek

At best he's an assistant. According to him he is the assistant to the assistant...and isn't even allowed to have a set of keys.

"Only the Blaster, Powder Carrier and Magazine Keeper may have keys
to the Magazines and accept delivery of explosives at the work site."

So basically he is a glorified adult Powder Monkey with some added paperwork.

thecritta · 1st July 2010, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by excaza

Yes, someone did call CDI. You quoted the post. CDI confirmed he was employed as a photographer. So the above statement is false and now you're a proven liar. Gosh, this is fun!

No actually I am not a liar, I was reading over at debatebothsides
and I remeber reading in a topic started by Rob Balsamo boasting
about how an employee from CDI appeared on one of gages presentations
supporting the claim that building 7 was explosively demolished and how
remote thermite charges could have been used and I remeber Ronald Weick
saying that Stacy at CDI had been contacted by phone whether it was him
I cant remeber the thread seems to have been deleted and I cant find it,
anyway I remeber Ron saying she denied he was ever an employee by CDI
So if that is indeed correct and my memory is working properly I am not a
liar and she is.

twinstead · 1st July 2010, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by scott.in.taiwan

Maybe you don't mind looking like a mormon, but that's another thing I don't know about

Are you saying they believe Christ visited the New World and may have more than one wife? That's harsh.

12th June 2010, 12:58 PM	#1
walkyrie Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 156	CDI explosive loader Tom Sullivan / ae911 / explosive demolition Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#!
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12th June 2010, 01:13 PM	#3
DGM Skeptic not Atheist Join Date: May 2007 Location: West of Northshore MA Posts: 24,724	Originally Posted by walkyrie Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#! Why is it that you question the "official" story every chance you get but, accept anything that's counter without question?
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12th June 2010, 02:56 PM	#8
332nd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,278	Originally Posted by walkyrie Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#! Well then... I guess the truth movement will finally decend on Washington and demand a new investigation. Also I imagine that in a few months when Sullivan, his family, and his friends aren't dead or had their lives ruined by the government, all of those experts (even the ones with evidence!!) Will come forward and justice will be served... Right?
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12th June 2010, 03:10 PM	#9
ElMondoHummus 0.25 short of being half-witted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere north of the South Pole Posts: 12,277	Originally Posted by Quad4_72 He didn't offer a SINGLE shred of evidence in support of his claims. His main argument was that since WTC7 LOOKED like a demolition that meant that it WAS a demolition. And since 7 was a demolition, that meant the rest of it probably was as well. Why did you post a nutter making claims without evidence? Very poor taste indeed. Funny... Danny Jowenko disagrees with Sullivan regarding the main towers. But to truthers, that's not evidence of cognitive dissonance in their stances. And: Agreed, Quad. It's getting pretty damn tiring that all we ever see are these baseless, unsupported opinions based on superficialities. It just goes to show that most conspiracy addicts don't even know the details of the collapse, since they don't seem to realize the utter lack of evidence given by these folks they cite.
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12th June 2010, 03:35 PM	#10
Cl1mh4224rd Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,778	This is just further evidence in support of my hypothesis that truthers aren't looking for "experts" to help them discover the truth about 9/11; they're simply looking for "experts" to tell them they already found it.
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12th June 2010, 01:06 PM	#2
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	Originally Posted by walkyrie Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#! He didn't offer a SINGLE shred of evidence in support of his claims. His main argument was that since WTC7 LOOKED like a demolition that meant that it WAS a demolition. And since 7 was a demolition, that meant the rest of it probably was as well. Why did you post a nutter making claims without evidence? Very poor taste indeed.
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

12th June 2010, 01:13 PM	#4
TexasJack Penultimate Amazing Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 10,906	Isn't this the guy that CDI denies ever working for them?

12th June 2010, 01:22 PM	#5
leftysergeant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 18,863	He worked for CDI? As what? A janitor? Got a curriculum vitae for his life?

12th June 2010, 01:29 PM	#6
T.A.M. Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20,795	I work for CDI. Do you work for CDI? Apparently for the truth movement, the only proof needed is his word. Did I mention I also work for the FBI, CIA, KGB, and NWO? TAM

12th June 2010, 01:49 PM	#7
sheeplesnshills Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,706	[quote] Originally Posted by walkyrie Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. Can he point to ANY CD that looked like the collapses of World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. The only one that looks vaguely like a CD is 7 but there were no explosions so typical of a CD. What looked even remotely "controlled" about the WTC1 and 2? Its hard to imagine a less controlled collapse!

12th June 2010, 03:43 PM	#11
Trojan Muse Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 512	Originally Posted by walkyrie Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#! So is this expert going to publish a paper? Will he provide investigation details, evidence and conclusions? Or is this just another argument from incredulity to sit on the thermite shelf?

12th June 2010, 03:58 PM	#12
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Guys bad news. He did work for CDI. As a photographer. /Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement!
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12th June 2010, 04:04 PM	#13
BigAl Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,397	Originally Posted by 16.5 Guys bad news. He did work for CDI. As a photographer. /Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement! So he's an expert in "looks like". Got a source for this?
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12th June 2010, 04:05 PM	#14
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 39,049	[quote=sheeplesnshills;6027085] Quote: Can he point to ANY CD that looked like the collapses of World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. The only one that looks vaguely like a CD is 7 but there were no explosions so typical of a CD. What looked even remotely "controlled" about the WTC1 and 2? Its hard to imagine a less controlled collapse! Odd I just asked that in another thread. The big argument is that it looked like CD yet I have never seen a link posted to a CD that looked like 1, 2 and 7.

12th June 2010, 04:39 PM	#15
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	wow...this guy claims to have known from DAY 1, before any evidence was gathered, that the collapses were all CDs. what a schmuck. what a bull **** schmuck. how can ANYONE claim to be searching for the truth about what happened that day, disregarding all the findings of NIST, FEMA, and countless other organizations, but believe the stupid words of a moron who claims to have known what happened on 9/12/01??????? one cannot claim to have a shred of intellectual honesty, and yet pay attention to someone who claims to know what happened on "day 1".
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12th June 2010, 06:04 PM	#16
The Big Dog Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29,742	Originally Posted by BigAl So he's an expert in "looks like". Got a source for this? http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611
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12th June 2010, 06:06 PM	#17
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by 16.5 http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611 no degree. no certification. just lots of bold amateur/novice opinions. sounds like a Truther's gold mine of expertise.
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12th June 2010, 06:16 PM	#18
ElMondoHummus 0.25 short of being half-witted Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere north of the South Pole Posts: 12,277	Originally Posted by 16.5 Guys bad news. He did work for CDI. As a photographer. /Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement! That doesn't in and of itself mean that he doesn't have any knowledge or experience. As a contrast, Brent Blanchard is an editor for Implosion World, and is an operations manager at Protec, so I don't believe he's actually implemented or supervised an explosive demolition. Yet, the knowledge he's garnered as a historian of the industry, as well as his experience from surveying, documenting, and consulting at Protec makes him eminently qualified to comment on demolitions and truther theories regarding such. No, Tom Sullivan's failure doesn't reside in his knowledge or expertise. It lays in his lack of evidence. Accuracy or lack of such always lays in the argument itself, not the person forwarding it. Even if all he was was a photographer for CDI, I'll respect his credentials. It's his argument that matters.
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12th June 2010, 06:18 PM	#19
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Tom Sullivan says he knew on "Day 1", that it was a CD. This makes his views pretty worthless. There are lots of videos on Youtube of buildings going down, and its caused by only gravity and age.
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12th June 2010, 06:18 PM	#20
triforcharity Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 13,961	Originally Posted by leftysergeant He worked for CDI? As what? A janitor? Got a curriculum vitae for his life? No, he worked for CDI as a FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER. I and Ron Weick have contacted Stacy @ CDI, and confirms that he worked as a PHOTOGRAPHER for them. Nothing more.
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12th June 2010, 06:25 PM	#21
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by triforcharity No, he worked for CDI as a FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER. I and Ron Weick have contacted Stacy @ CDI, and confirms that he worked as a PHOTOGRAPHER for them. Nothing more. in the video, he claims that he was an explosives technician. was this a lie?
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12th June 2010, 06:34 PM	#22
triforcharity Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 13,961	Thunder, It was claimed, but nothing was ever provided. CDI agrees that he worked for them as a photographer, and nothing more. You cannot become an explosive loader without having your employer verify your competence. Since he was a photographer, I highly doubt that he was a loader. None-the-less, it doesn't really matter, as his conclusions are all based on ************.
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12th June 2010, 06:40 PM	#23
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by triforcharity Thunder, It was claimed, but nothing was ever provided. CDI agrees that he worked for them as a photographer, and nothing more. You cannot become an explosive loader without having your employer verify your competence. Since he was a photographer, I highly doubt that he was a loader. ah...so not only is he a schmuck..but he is a lying schmuck. great Truther material. he will probably be interviewed by AJ and Luke shortly as a hero who will "blow the lid off of 9-11!!!!!!".
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12th June 2010, 06:51 PM	#24
BigAl Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,397	Originally Posted by triforcharity Thunder, It was claimed, but nothing was ever provided. CDI agrees that he worked for them as a photographer, and nothing more. You cannot become an explosive loader without having your employer verify your competence. Since he was a photographer, I highly doubt that he was a loader. None-the-less, it doesn't really matter, as his conclusions are all based on ************. According to this page he has a FDNY explosives "loader" license. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread569606/pg1 Here's his ae911 profile. No mention of any license. Quote: Worked for CDI during the time of 911 as a both a site still photographer and as an explosive loader. Worked on projects such as Seattle King dome, Three Rivers Stadium, Philadelphia Naval Hospital, Key span Gas Holders among others. Went to H.S. with Doug Loizeaux so I had a unique insider look while I was employed by them. I had published work in the book Implosion published by Black Dog publishing. http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611 An Internet search finds no book called "Implosion " by this publisher. http://blackdogonline.com/
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12th June 2010, 07:49 PM	#25
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	Originally Posted by ElMondoHummus Funny... Danny Jowenko disagrees with Sullivan regarding the main towers. But to truthers, that's not evidence of cognitive dissonance in their stances. And: Agreed, Quad. It's getting pretty damn tiring that all we ever see are these baseless, unsupported opinions based on superficialities. It just goes to show that most conspiracy addicts don't even know the details of the collapse, since they don't seem to realize the utter lack of evidence given by these folks they cite. Seems that there is no shortage of STUPID in the world these days. The guy in the video clearly has no idea WTF he is talking about but twoofers just slurp it up. They are so impressionable lol.
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

12th June 2010, 07:51 PM	#26
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	Originally Posted by walkyrie Tom Sullivan used to work for Controlled Demolitions Inc. On 9/11 and everyday since, his experience with CDI tells him that controlled demolitions were used on 9/11 to demolish World Trade Center #1, #2 and 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcwnJ...ayer_embedded#! Appeal to authority much too? Except in this case, I think you need to pick another authority for your logical fallacy. This one doesn't help your case much...
Quad4_72 AI-EE-YAH! Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,354	__________________ Looks like the one on top has a magazine, thus needs less reloading. Also, the muzzle shroud makes it less likely for a spree killer to burn his hands. The pistol grip makes it more comfortable for the spree killer to shoot. thaiboxerken

12th June 2010, 07:52 PM	#27
T.A.M. Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20,795	Originally Posted by ElMondoHummus Funny... Danny Jowenko disagrees with Sullivan regarding the main towers. But to truthers, that's not evidence of cognitive dissonance in their stances. And: Agreed, Quad. It's getting pretty damn tiring that all we ever see are these baseless, unsupported opinions based on superficialities. It just goes to show that most conspiracy addicts don't even know the details of the collapse, since they don't seem to realize the utter lack of evidence given by these folks they cite. Yes, I think we should call it doing a "Gage". Just like Richard Gage, who uses his "credentials" as an architect to lend a FALSE sense of authority to his words, but simply parrots the same, tire old canards of the TM without a bit of his so called "expertise" exhibited or used to back up the claims. Sullivan is simply doing a "Gage". TAM

12th June 2010, 07:53 PM	#28
T.A.M. Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 20,795	Originally Posted by 16.5 Guys bad news. He did work for CDI. As a photographer. /Photographic Phail For the Twooph Movement! lol...that is priceless...absolutely priceless. TAM

16th June 2010, 06:03 AM	#29
leftysergeant Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 18,863	Is he related to Willie, by any chance?

16th June 2010, 07:09 AM	#30
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	How do we get "pulling a Gage" into the dictionary?
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16th June 2010, 09:30 AM	#31
grandmastershek Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,461	by "explosives loader" he probably means: "Hey Tom! Can you give me hand getting this into the truck?"

16th June 2010, 10:19 AM	#32
tsig a carbon based life-form Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 39,049	Originally Posted by grandmastershek by "explosives loader" he probably means: "Hey Tom! Can you give me hand getting this into the truck?" Maybe he just had gas.

30th June 2010, 12:56 PM	#33
grandmastershek Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,461	Originally Posted by grandmastershek by "explosives loader" he probably means: "Hey Tom! Can you give me hand getting this into the truck?" I was close. An article at ae911truth has his permit as a "powder carrier", but he refers to himself as a "loader". http://www.ae911truth.org/news/41-ar...-employee.html http://www2.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=981611 What does that mean? "The Powder Carrier is essentially an apprentice Blaster, assisting the Blaster with loading: ( preparing primer cartridges and charges, wiring / hookup, setting off the shots ) and paperwork, such as recording quantities of explosives used and shot times. Explosives loaders help the Blaster and Powder Carrier in transporting explosives to and from the magazines and handling explosives during loading operations." http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/cof...y_material.pdf At best he's an assistant. According to him he is the assistant to the assistant...and isn't even allowed to have a set of keys. "Only the Blaster, Powder Carrier and Magazine Keeper may have keys to the Magazines and accept delivery of explosives at the work site."

30th June 2010, 02:53 PM	#34
willhaven Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,049	Originally Posted by walkyrie Controlled Demolition Expert Photographer Tom Sullivan , his Statement about 9/11

1st July 2010, 04:16 AM	#35
thecritta Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 199	Originally Posted by triforcharity No, he worked for CDI as a FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHER. I and Ron Weick have contacted Stacy @ CDI, and confirms that he worked as a PHOTOGRAPHER for them. Nothing more. Well actually he did work for CDI as a photographer and a explosives loader according to the documentation contained in these links. http://www2.ae911truth.org/images/in...van_CDI_W2.jpg http://cms.ae911truth.org/news/41-ar...-employee.html And it even has the the words "POWDER CARRIER" listen in his permit. So I guess that makes Stacey Loizeaux from CDI a proven liar because she denied ever having know him or him being an employee of CDI because someone called CDI to confirm whether or not he was an employee.
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