Can Jesus Inspire Science?

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Yes. Some of his antics did come to the attention of a few scientists who, for some reason, decided to do a bit of cautious debunking. But apart from that, there maybe cases of inspiration which are scientifically too esoteric to come across easily. Here is an example in Wikipedia:
The Bond number is a measure of the importance of surface tension forces compared to body forces. A high Bond number indicates that the system is relatively unaffected by surface tension effects; a low number (typically less than one is the requirement) indicates that surface tension dominates. Intermediate numbers indicate a non-trivial balance between the two effects.

One over the Bond Number, ie. 1 / Bo is sometimes referred to as the Jesus number, Je, since bodies can walk on water if they have a large Jesus number, that is if Je > > 1.
The Bond number is the most common comparison of gravity and surface tension effects and it may be derived in a number of ways, such as scaling the pressure of a drop of liquid on a solid surface. It is usually important, however, to find the right length scale specific to a problem by doing a ground-up scale analysis. Other dimensionless numbers are related to the Bond number:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_number

Does anyone know about other examples like that? Any contribution would be very welcome.

(As far as the Bond number is concerned, that's easy to remember.)
 
Calling the Bond number the Jesus number is something called irony.
 
Walking on water is trivial compared to allowing life in the universe i.e. The Goldilocks Principal

Therefore

Goldilocks >> Jesus
 
epix said:
Yes. Some of his antics did come to the attention of a few scientists who, for some reason, decided to do a bit of cautious debunking. But apart from that, there maybe cases of inspiration which are scientifically too esoteric to come across easily. Here is an example in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_number
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How is that an example of inspiring science? All it seems to be is scientists making a joke.
 
I dunno, as scientists and other people naming stuff after fairy tales go, we also have the already mentioned Goldilocks principle, and for that matter Goldilocks economy and several unrelated Goldilocks numbers, the principle of Rumpelstiltskin (no, seriously), the Cinderella complex, etc. So, yeah, Jesus too can have his name taken in vain to give a joke name to something.
 
There is a theological argument that since god created the Earth universe you can learn about god by studding it thus the requirement to do science. Throw in quite a few vicars having a reasonable amount of free time and you get a lot of botany and the like out of the CofE.
 
Well clearly Superman has also inspired science. I'm going to post the "Induction" section about the Arabidopsis thaliana locusAT3G23130 or 'SUPERMAN':

AT3G23130 said:
Repressed by KRYPTONITE/SUVH4, member of the histone H3-K9 methyltransferase family that contributes with other factors to the CpNpG methylation of the SUP gene resulting in its silencing. The alternative epigenetic states of the SUPERMAN locus have been called Clark Kent alleles. Positively regulated at an early stage of development by LEAFY and by B class homeotic proteins APETALA3 and PISTILLATA. Later expression is maintained by both the B class homeotic proteins and the C class homeotic protein AGAMOUS. These two steps of regulation require the intervention of additional factors.
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There is, after all, an entire sect of "Christ, Scientist"... Dunno how many test tubes they use in their services...
 
I know of species who's names are hillarious puns (well, hillarious after you've been reading nothing but taxonomic decriptions for six weeks). You can tell, reading the name, that the guy naming the things was bored, and was trying to see what he could get past the taxonomists. Calling something the Jesus Number because it allows something to walk on water is right in line with that.

In other words, scientists like to have a little fun. It's nothing to do with inspiration, but rather a reference to a well-known story (true or not [and I say not] it's still a story).
 
Jesus couldn't walk on the water after the crucifixion. The holes in the feet.
 
The answer to the thread question is an absolute "No". Move on to the next, and more meaningful and entertaining thread.
 
Brattus said:
I don't get it.
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I'll give you the whole thing. After the crucifixion the disciples were drowning their sorrows at the inn. The door opens and in walks Jesus.
'Here I am lads, back from the dead''
Doubting Thomas says
'You're not Jesus.'
'Yes I am.'
'If you're Jesus, do a miracle for us'
'Ok, I'll walk on the water again'
They go outside and heave Jesus up onto a full rain barrel, they let him go and he sinks down.
Thomas says
'See, I said you weren't Jesus.'
'Have you tried it with these holes in your feet?'
 
Dave Rogers said:
I wouldn't know, I'm not much of a Jesus nut.

Dave
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Ahahahaha . . .

Cardinal, the pope-mobile won't be available until after the Ash Wednesday when the shop will have replaced the old Jesus nut.

:confused: But I thought that it's up to Our Father in the Heavens to make changes in the papacy.

I really wonder where the inspiration to "edit" a part of the article on Bond number in Wiki came from. That surely deserves a second look . . .

One over the Bond Number, ie. 1 / Bo is sometimes referred to as the Jesus number, Je, since bodies can walk on water if they have a large Jesus number, that is if Je > > 1.

The Bond number is the most common comparison of gravity and surface tension effects and it may be derived in a number of ways, such as scaling the pressure of a drop of liquid on a solid surface. It is usually important, however, to find the right length scale specific to a problem by doing a ground-up scale analysis. Other dimensionless numbers are related to the Bond number:

Bo = Eo = 2Go2 = 2De2
Where Eo, Go, and De are respectively the Eötvös, Goucher, and Deryagin numbers.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eötvös_number
Well, that figures.



Due to Your incompetence, I was born that way.
 
I heard it as:
Moses and Jesus were playing a round of golf. Both hit their balls into the water. Moses walks over, strikes his club on the ground, the pond water parts, he walks out and chips the ball onto the green. The waters come back together and Moses gloats,"I still got it!"

Jesus smiles and walks to the waters edge. He takes a step or two into the pond, hits a deep spot and goes under.

Moses parts the water and drags a spitting and sputtering Jesus back to shore.

Jesus says,"I don't get it. I used to walk on water all the time"

Moses points down and says,"That was before the nail holes!"
 
Wolrab said:
I heard it as:
Moses and Jesus were playing a round of golf. Both hit their balls into the water. Moses walks over, strikes his club on the ground, the pond water parts, he walks out and chips the ball onto the green. The waters come back together and Moses gloats,"I still got it!"

Jesus smiles and walks to the waters edge. He takes a step or two into the pond, hits a deep spot and goes under.

Moses parts the water and drags a spitting and sputtering Jesus back to shore.

Jesus says,"I don't get it. I used to walk on water all the time"

Moses points down and says,"That was before the nail holes!"
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I could tell you the one about Jesus on honeymoon but I'd get myself banned.
 
geni said:
There is a theological argument that since god created the Earth universe you can learn about god by studding it thus the requirement to do science. Throw in quite a few vicars having a reasonable amount of free time and you get a lot of botany and the like out of the CofE.
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I always think of C&E as a fairly abstract sort of Christianity without much in the way of literal belief required ... but then there's a range I'm sure.
 
I dunno if anybody has mentioned it yet (I havent read all of the thread), but in Australia the hand rail/bar in the car above the window is commonly referred to as a "Jesus bar".

Mainly because when you grab hold of it, you're usually screaming "JESSSSUUUSSSS!!!!!!!"
 
devnull said:
I dunno if anybody has mentioned it yet (I havent read all of the thread), but in Australia the hand rail/bar in the car above the window is commonly referred to as a "Jesus bar".

Mainly because when you grab hold of it, you're usually screaming "JESSSSUUUSSSS!!!!!!!"
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Old Jeep CJ's (maybe new ones too, IDK) had a handle on the dashboard in front of the passenger similarly named the "JC bar". My crazed door-less, roof-less, off-road driving regularly confirmed its function and name. Man I miss that old pile of rust.

In architecture school, we were told the technical name given to a very impressive amount of open interior volume (such as an atrium) was "JC space" - when one walked into it the first reaction was... well, you know.
 
Yes, even imaginary beings for which there is no evidence of their existence, can inspire science. Human beings can find inspiration for anything in anything, so this is not something to be amazed of.
 
Ron_Tomkins said:
Yes, even imaginary beings for which there is no evidence of their existence, can inspire science. Human beings can find inspiration for anything in anything, so this is not something to be amazed of.
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The well-known case is the evolution theory. The Christians have the opportunity to see some of the amazing creatures in a fancy 3D computer graphic rendition, but there is no physical trace of them. Even though most of the Christians are familiar with the meaning of "theory" as science use it, they frown on the analogous "Jesus theory," even though theology and evolutionary science can and is taught under one university roof.
 
Jesus can inspire science, just as much as Jesus can inspire infidelity, charity and homosexuality.

It's all in a matter of how you wish to take it.
 
With all the Python references being thrown about, I thought I should bring up the INDY gene

Indy, short for I'm not dead yet, is a gene of the model organism, the fruitfly Drosophila melanogaster. Mutant versions of this gene doubles the fruitflies' average life span (this is subject to controversy).[1] Its name originates from a repeated comic line in Monty Python and the Holy Grail[2]
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