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Old 4th May 2012, 06:09 AM   #1
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Is Putin a Tsar in Everything but Name

he even has a palace it seems

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17730959
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Old 4th May 2012, 11:42 AM   #2
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Awesome! I want to live there!
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Old 4th May 2012, 12:37 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Dcdrac View Post
he even has a palace it seems

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17730959
Is it the palace that makes the tsar?

I guess the real question is, what was the traditional extent of a tsar's authority, and is the extent of Putin's authority analagous?

It seems to me that, compared to a real tsar, Putin's ability to wield power openly is somewhat constrained. He has to go through the motions of elections, etc., whereas a real tsar wouldn't, for example.
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Old 4th May 2012, 02:08 PM   #4
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That's a dacha and a half. But maybe it's for the people.
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Old 4th May 2012, 06:59 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by commandlinegamer View Post
That's a dacha and a half. But maybe it's for the people.
It's a national time share. 1 family picked from the country get's an hour.
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Old 4th May 2012, 10:58 PM   #6
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Shut up people! Now he won't be able to go there.
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Old 5th May 2012, 02:58 AM   #7
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I love how all the private security guards inside were having a fun game of dress up as uniformed Kremlin guard service members, including official ID that they bought "in a shop."

There is absloutely no connection to the Russian government at all, no siree.

The allegation that it was funded by embezzing charitable donations earmarked for upgrading Russian hospitals is a corker.

Is there a word for someone who is not quite a dictator? A kind of Tyrant Lite? If not we should adopt "Putin" as that word, as in: "Berlusconi tried to use his vast media influence to Putinise Italy."
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Old 5th May 2012, 10:11 AM   #8
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I suggest we change the title of this thread to "Putin on the Ritz"?

Second? Anyone?
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Old 5th May 2012, 11:19 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
I suggest we change the title of this thread to "Putin on the Ritz"?

Second? Anyone?
Seconded.
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Old 6th May 2012, 03:22 AM   #10
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Is Putin a Tsar in Everything but Name
Yeah. Russia gonna be Russia.
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Old 6th May 2012, 03:29 AM   #11
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As long as he keeps the commercial oligarchy sweet they are happy for him to be as much as a Tsar as he wants to be. Which was pretty much ever the case for a Russian tsar.
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Old 6th May 2012, 03:55 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
I suggest we change the title of this thread to "Putin on the Ritz"?

Second? Anyone?
I don't think that's something you should go russian into but if that's what you want to do, soviet it then.
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Old 6th May 2012, 12:38 PM   #13
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Russia sounds more like Umbrella Corp. every day. I'm not saying they are creating the T-Virus (yes I am) but Putin=Wesker.
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Old 7th May 2012, 01:07 PM   #14
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Have you seen the well-to-do
Upon Moscow avenue
Vote fraud and giant banners
Paid mob and tsaresque manners
Paying every bill
With some government shill!

If you run
and you're not one
to play fairly
why don't you run
where Tsar-man sits
Putin on the Ritz!

Various crooks on government roll
Fixing books skewing another poll
Bear-skin mitts
Putin on the Ritz

Caught up in some shady cartel antics
fishing proudly showing off my man-tits
Some romantics!

Manly tsar, the people's choice
Lux'ry car with mobster boys
We're in the midst
Putin on the Ritz!
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Old 7th May 2012, 02:19 PM   #15
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No. First he needs to grow a spectacular mustache.
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Old 7th May 2012, 08:54 PM   #16
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It is rumored that our boy has rashly stolen the equivalent of 80 billion dollars. Which might explain the huge mansion, the safaris, PR campaigns, and whatnot.

But all those poor Russians, they admire that in a man. They fantasize about doing the same if they were in Putin's shoes.

How long can Russia hold together? Every day the bucket goes to the well. One day the bottom will drop out.

But I suppose they're accustomed to that. Just another day in paradise to them.
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Old 7th May 2012, 08:57 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
As long as he keeps the commercial oligarchy sweet they are happy for him to be as much as a Tsar as he wants to be. Which was pretty much ever the case for a Russian tsar.
Not remotely. The commercial oligarchy is to a large extent terrified of him. Which was one of the reasons why he was so popular.
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Old 7th May 2012, 09:01 PM   #18
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It is rumored that our boy has rashly stolen the equivalent of 80 billion dollars. Which might explain the huge mansion, the safaris, PR campaigns, and whatnot.
Its a common claim of all dictorial leaders. So far the only case that seemed to have some relationship with reality was Gaddafi. Sure its possible that he has as much as a few hundred million stashed away but billions? that kind of money is better spent on staying in power.

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But all those poor Russians, they admire that in a man. They fantasize about doing the same if they were in Putin's shoes.
Recent election results say otherwise.

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How long can Russia hold together? Every day the bucket goes to the well. One day the bottom will drop out.
Well they've got oil and as a result fairly steady economic growth so on that basis quite a while.
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