Dr Phil promotes "Satanic Ritual Abuse" conspiracy theory

[Altus]

Originally Posted by Dismember

I actually liked Roma's idea of passing the story along to the Onion. Spreading a short, satirized version throughout social media websites might destroy any chance of Judy's nonsense getting a foothold.

Anyone want to make one of these with a clever caption and a photo of Judy?

You mean from a picture like this? http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...e528364d9.html


And maybe a caption like this from the book?
"Kiss my lickity-split!"

Of course, this is all hypothetical, I trust, you understand.

[Roma]

Originally Posted by Altus

These are Judy's cohorts. Ross, Schwartz and the whole ISSTD. This "therapy" is downright dangerous. Latest malpractice suit to hit involves a suicide attempt the day after a patient left a center run by ISSTD members. Take note, Judy Byington.

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/...uit_Case_4.pdf

I just love the way the plaintiff Colette Traver's attorny words this affidavit, especially in point number 7 :

"That the aforesaid conduct of the defendant was so outrageous in character and so extreme in degree, as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency and said conduct was atrocious and utterly intolerable in a civilized society."

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/...uit_Case_4.pdf


Yup that pretty much sums up what we all think of those ***holes

[douglas mesner]

I got my first PO'ed author comment on my 5 Most Absurd Books piece. In fact, his book should possibly be a thread of its own... but then, Dr. Phil probably isn't going to interview him any time soon, and he'll wallow in obscurity...
http://www.examiner.com/article/5-ab...s-a-true-story

[cosmicaug]

Originally Posted by carlitos

The news director is Larry Parret. I bet if you substitute his full name with a period in between at abc4.com, you'd get right through. If you want the General Manager, try Matt (or Matthew) Jaquint.

It's with two e's: larry.perret@abc4.com . Still, if the web guy says he's passed on the message to him and that the reply is that they stand by their story I don't see what the point would be of contacting Perret again.

[douglas mesner]

Originally Posted by cosmicaug

It's with two e's: larry.perret@abc4.com . Still, if the web guy says he's passed on the message to him and that the reply is that they stand by their story I don't see what the point would be of contacting Perret again.

Just to get a quote. Just in case it needs to made perfectly clear that he himself was fully aware of the incompetence in his station.

[Altus]

Originally Posted by Roma

I just love the way the plaintiff Colette Traver's attorny words this affidavit, especially in point number 7 :

"That the aforesaid conduct of the defendant was so outrageous in character and so extreme in degree, as to go beyond all possible bounds of decency and said conduct was atrocious and utterly intolerable in a civilized society."

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/...uit_Case_4.pdf


Yup that pretty much sums up what we all think of those ***holes

***holes is right. And stupid ones, at that! From their website in response to the latest lawsuit: "one of the rare facilities specializing in eating issues involving post-traumatic stress often caused by sexual abuse."

Um, none of these women had PTSD going into the center or memories of any abuse and just like Jenny Hill, through "treatment," they got bogus memories of sexual abuse and went on to accuse relatives. It's a Jenny Hill factory, run by fellow ISSTD members.

http://www.castlewoodtc.com/about/in-the-news/

You think their legal team would have flagged that...that is unless the jerks really believe they are treating PTSD and memories of sexual abuse instead of creating them...or do they just want us to believe that?

[Roma]

[quote=Altus;8768240....You think their legal team would have flagged that...[/QUOTE]

La-la-la-la-la "I don't want to hear!" La-la-la-la-la

[Altus]

Whoops!!

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[Altus]

Oh, noes, poor jUdY :-/

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I think I'm gonna use when she babbles out "Buy my new book!" since she never responds to comments anyway.

[yodaluver28]

Wow, I can't believe this thread. I thought all this SRA/repressed-memories hysteria died after the McMartin debacle ended with all the incompetent "therapists" that were involved and the methods they used on those children being utterly discredited.

I'm a little surprised that even a hack like Dr. Phil would let it to be resurrected on his show purely for ratings. Is his show doing so badly that he needs to stoop to this?

And some of those Amazon entries in defense of that 22 Faces book?

[Roma]

Originally Posted by Altus

Whoops!!

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Oh this one ! On t-shirts

okay I like the other one too, good work Altus.

[joesixpack]

How about this one?

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[Roma]

Originally Posted by joesixpack

how about this one?

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Funny !!

[joesixpack]

Here's another one (these are fun!)

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[Orphia Nay]

My turn!

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[douglas mesner]

Originally Posted by yodaluver28

Wow, I can't believe this thread. I thought all this SRA/repressed-memories hysteria died after the McMartin debacle ended with all the incompetent "therapists" that were involved and the methods they used on those children being utterly discredited.

I'm a little surprised that even a hack like Dr. Phil would let it to be resurrected on his show purely for ratings. Is his show doing so badly that he needs to stoop to this?

And some of those Amazon entries in defense of that 22 Faces book?

Welcome to the show. For these people, the discrediting of McMartin is only evidence that "They" are working tirelessly to suppress general knowledge of the Satanic threat.

[Roma]

Okay can anyone photoshop a picture of Judy and Ross "together" and then memgenerate that ? I especially like this picture of Ross with his tin foil goggles.

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...ebeam_of_e.php

[cosmicaug]

Originally Posted by douglas mesner

Welcome to the show. For these people, the discrediting of McMartin is only evidence that "They" are working tirelessly to suppress general knowledge of the Satanic threat.

Now we have some joker saying that the Sandusky case and the Roman Catholic sexual abuse cases are "just like this case and cult cases" and also hinting at seemingly finding levitation believable because it's "possible in nature in science studies". Argh! The stupid! It burns!

[douglas mesner]

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[Orphia Nay]

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[douglas mesner]

Originally Posted by cosmicaug

Now we have some joker saying that the Sandusky case and the Roman Catholic sexual abuse cases are "just like this case and cult cases" and also hinting at seemingly finding levitation believable because it's "possible in nature in science studies". Argh! The stupid! It burns!

I presented a bold new theory in my reply:
Alline -- The Sandusky case happened in the real world with multiple corroborating witnesses. That's why there was no talk of levitation, satanic cults, ESP, demonic possession, or divine intervention. Nor did these kids "repress" their memories and suddenly recall them when they met with some dippy therapist. 22 Faces isn't simply claiming that Jenny was abused by some person. 22 Faces claims she was abused by a whole homicidal head-lopping cult from which we could expect quite a bit of corroborating evidence.
Again, nobody is saying child abuse doesn't happen. It does. And I think that it's absolutely horrible that delusional conspiracy theorists try to hide their idiotic notions behind a disingenuous veneer of child protection. It's an absolute insult to victims of abuse to pretend that 22 Faces is a victim's advocate book. I've looked at Jenny's story and her testimony, and I simply can't figure out why Byington has chosen to believe only SOME of Jenny's testimony and disregard the rest. For example, Jenny Hill fled from Byington for a time thinking she had seen the Mark of Cain on Byington. Perhaps she did. If we take the rest of Jenny Hill's testimony as proof of its own veracity, why don't we consider that Byington is a Satanist? Has Byington considered this? Isn't it possible that the cult brain-washed Judy even more efficiently than they brain-washed Jenny Hill and that Byington doesn't even realize she's harboring a majority of Satanic personalities in her that are surfacing to exert their control over Jenny Hill? Perhaps if Byington followed her own evidence, she would find that the villain is her. Had you considered this, Alline? I find it a compelling theory. So compelling, in fact, that I challenge anyone to give me any proof that Byington ISN'T a mind-controlled tool of the Satanists being used to further keep watch and control over their "chosen one", Jenny Hill
But this is a remarkable statement:"Levitation is possible in nature in science studies". Do tell? What studies are you referring to?

[douglas mesner]

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[Altus]

Originally Posted by joesixpack

how about this one?

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win!!!!

[Altus]

Originally Posted by yodaluver28

Wow, I can't believe this thread. I thought all this SRA/repressed-memories hysteria died after the McMartin debacle ended with all the incompetent "therapists" that were involved and the methods they used on those children being utterly discredited.

I'm a little surprised that even a hack like Dr. Phil would let it to be resurrected on his show purely for ratings. Is his show doing so badly that he needs to stoop to this?

And some of those Amazon entries in defense of that 22 Faces book?

Yup. The ISSTD is alive and racking up victims and lawsuits as I type this.

Google: "Castlewood Treatment lawsuits"

[pakeha]

Originally Posted by douglas mesner

You too can be certified by the author of the forward to 22 Faces!
In case any of you managed to miss the background on this guy, you can read it here: http://www.process.org/discept/2010/...ice-most-foul/

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Frightening, that.

[Scott Sommers]

All this stuff about 22 Faces...I'm beginning to wonder if we have the problem all wrong. I'm wondering if the Judy's crew isn't that crowd who thinks that a claim of levitation and ESP makes the story even more believable. So Sandusky may have multiple witnesses who needed no hypnotherapy or past life regression and had told the story numerous times to others throughout their lives and...and...even it can be true. So how much more true must a story be that includes levitation and magic? Isn't it just obviously true?

[Altus]

Originally Posted by Scott Sommers

All this stuff about 22 Faces...I'm beginning to wonder if we have the problem all wrong. I'm wondering if the Judy's crew isn't that crowd who thinks that a claim of levitation and ESP makes the story even more believable. So Sandusky may have multiple witnesses who needed no hypnotherapy or past life regression and had told the story numerous times to others throughout their lives and...and...even it can be true. So how much more true must a story be that includes levitation and magic? Isn't it just obviously true?

Hmm...is this the same logic that justifies homeopathic medicine? The inventor of this particular flu "medicine" is a teacher with no medical or scientific training at all...therefore it must be better than all medicines on the market combined, correct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzud3RB9-4U

[Strawberry]

There are still people in prison because of this SRA stuff, which makes it all the more unbelievable that any news organisation would promote this book.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...le-4003817.php

[douglas mesner]

Originally Posted by Scott Sommers

All this stuff about 22 Faces...I'm beginning to wonder if we have the problem all wrong. I'm wondering if the Judy's crew isn't that crowd who thinks that a claim of levitation and ESP makes the story even more believable. So Sandusky may have multiple witnesses who needed no hypnotherapy or past life regression and had told the story numerous times to others throughout their lives and...and...even it can be true. So how much more true must a story be that includes levitation and magic? Isn't it just obviously true?

I think you may really be on to something. Look at that review by Shamai Currim wherein she states, essentially, that the story must be true because nobody could have created such a tale. Maybe it's exactly those absurd elements that cause people like her to believe that it is totally outside the scope of human imagination. With that in mind, I think we could write the Truest Story Ever Written for them, but it would have to contain a whole lot of brutal abuse, too, for that's another measure of truthicality to them -- the worse the abuse, the truer the story.

[Altus]

Originally Posted by Strawberry

There are still people in prison because of this SRA stuff, which makes it all the more unbelievable that any news organisation would promote this book.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...le-4003817.php

Thanks for rooting us in reality, Strawberry. All posting aside, this **** kills. That's why this thread rocks. In the age of the "Internets," it's easier to take these folks down...gettin' the story out can involve just a few clicks. I've been babysitting a newstory and connecting the dots on this one. Their spin folks must be chittin on their press releases as they can't control these comments (the woman behind this latest suit attempted suicide, BTW):

http://ballwin-ellisville.patch.com/...f-sexual-abuse


We can all shoot this stuff down as soon as it rears its ugly head. All it takes is connecting the dots. Since this tread came about (bow to Orphia for posting Doug Mesner's article--double bow to Doug) it's been more and more difficult for Judy to find an outlet for her delusion.

We've:

-Flooded ABC-4 and facebook
-Contacted Costco about a signing
-Contacted a library in UT where Judy was scheduled to appear
-Doug opened an investigation in UT
-O conntacted the AG out there and got a statement
-Doug has been in touch with Dr. Phil's producers many times since the article

Crowd-sourced awesomeness in my book!

[Roma]

Originally Posted by Strawberry

There are still people in prison because of this SRA stuff, which makes it all the more unbelievable that any news organisation would promote this book.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...le-4003817.php

Yes that is a sad fact, and it is also a sad fact that in that meme photo of Judy she is standing in a grave yard. So many innocent people who were in MPD/DID therapy have died through suicide. Having so much fun looking at those silly memes I forgot for a moment that the victims of all of this fraud are sitting in prisons, laying in psych wards, or buried in the ground while their "therapists" happily flit about between book signings and live very comfortably off the money made by their gross malpractice.

[douglas mesner]

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[Roma]

Originally Posted by douglas mesner

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thanks Doug

[douglas mesner]

Originally Posted by Roma

thanks Doug

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[Altus]

Found this little gem referenced in the Amazon comments:

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[Roma]

Originally Posted by douglas mesner

This one's for you , Roma: http://memegenerator.net/instance/30206420

Funny boy

[Professor Yaffle]

I've just been reading up on some UK cases of "recovered" memory. I'd had the impression that in the UK there was only a tiny fringe involved in this sort of "therapy". But on reading of the case of Carole Myers, I was astounded to find that one of the therapists involved was a former head of ethics at the BMA!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...ic-child-abuse

[Strawberry]

That leaped out at me too. It has me questioning the veracity of alot of recent stories about child sexual abuse in Britain - especially in state run children's homes. Were these people sent to therapists to deal with whatever family problems caused them to be in children's homes? Did the therapists "recover" these memories of abuse by famous figures such as Lord McAlpine?

And this, of course, reveals another reason why this stuff is dangerous - it leads people to become skeptical of any claims of child abuse, including genuine ones.

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Originally Posted by douglas mesner

Look at that review by Shamai Currim wherein she states, essentially, that the story must be true because nobody could have created such a tale.

She ought to watch Game Of Thrones. Can you imagine anybody making that up?

Plus there's dragons and zombies, so it's automatically more entertaining.

[Professor Yaffle]

Good grief, she's also Co-Chairman of POPAN (Prevention of Professional Abuse Network)