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Old 8th December 2012, 08:40 AM   #1
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Charlie Crist formally joins Democrats to make final split from GOP

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...-democrats-gop

Charlie Crist formally joins Democrats to make final split from GOP

Former Florida governor Charlie Crist has completed his political conversion, announcing on Twitter that he has joined the Democrats as a result of the Republican party's swing to the right.

The one-time GOP politician, who ran unsuccessfully for the US Senate as an independent, had earlier signalled his support for President Barack Obama and campaigned on his behalf ahead of the November election.

News that Crist has formalised the move to the Democratic party will prompt speculation that he may lobby for a run at his old seat in the 2014 gubernatorial race in Florida.

The 56-year-old politician tweeted out a picture of him and his wife Carole holding aloft a Florida voter registration application.

The accompanying message read: "Proud and honored to join the Democratic Party in the home of President @BarackObama."
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Old 8th December 2012, 01:27 PM   #2
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I'm not a Democrat but I certainly can relate.
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I think I'll reroute my trip
I wonder if they'd think I'd flipped.
If I went to LA, via Omaha.
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Old 8th December 2012, 03:00 PM   #3
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And the GOP will say "he was just a RINO anyway."
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Old 8th December 2012, 07:22 PM   #4
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Well, he does seem like a guy who could play for either team.

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Old 8th December 2012, 07:34 PM   #5
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Did anyone notice?
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Old 8th December 2012, 07:50 PM   #6
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Right now the DNC leadership is looking into whether they can reject his application.
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Old 8th December 2012, 08:17 PM   #7
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I like how the Conservatives in the thread can't see that this is a symptom of how the GOP is alienating most of the population.
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Old 8th December 2012, 08:58 PM   #8
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A guy switches parties to join the party in power, as happens commonly.

Let's draw deep, eternal conclusions from this about perma-changes to political landscapes.
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Old 9th December 2012, 01:43 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Beerina View Post
A guy switches parties to join the party in power, as happens commonly.

Let's draw deep, eternal conclusions from this about perma-changes to political landscapes.
Yes, it can't have anything to do with his personal convictions or belief that his former party has been take over by a far right ideological purists and demagogues.
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Old 9th December 2012, 02:52 AM   #10
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Yes, it can't have anything to do with his personal convictions or belief that his former party has been take over by a far right ideological purists and demagogues.
Cut him some slack, okay? It isn´t easy to understand that some people might be motivated by something other than myopic egoism.
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Old 9th December 2012, 03:07 AM   #11
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Yes, it can't have anything to do with his personal convictions or belief that his former party has been take over by a far right ideological purists and demagogues.
His personal beliefs? You mean these ones?

"I'm about as conservative as you can get ... I'm a Jeb Bush Republican ... President Bush is a leader of courage and conviction ... I was impressed at Gov. Palin being picked. I watched her speech today, I was very impressed ... I'm a pro-life, pro-gun, anti-tax Republican ... I think it's important for people to understand who the true conservative is in this race, and it's Charlie Crist."

Yeah, I'm totally sure those beliefs led Crist to become a Democrat.
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Old 9th December 2012, 08:59 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
His personal beliefs? You mean these ones?

"I'm about as conservative as you can get ... I'm a Jeb Bush Republican ... President Bush is a leader of courage and conviction ... I was impressed at Gov. Palin being picked. I watched her speech today, I was very impressed ... I'm a pro-life, pro-gun, anti-tax Republican ... I think it's important for people to understand who the true conservative is in this race, and it's Charlie Crist."

Yeah, I'm totally sure those beliefs led Crist to become a Democrat.
Maybe he's gay.







What?!? Why are you looking at me like that? I'm just saying what everyone else is thinking.
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Old 9th December 2012, 09:33 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
His personal beliefs? You mean these ones?

"I'm about as conservative as you can get ... I'm a Jeb Bush Republican ... President Bush is a leader of courage and conviction ... I was impressed at Gov. Palin being picked. I watched her speech today, I was very impressed ... I'm a pro-life, pro-gun, anti-tax Republican ... I think it's important for people to understand who the true conservative is in this race, and it's Charlie Crist."

Yeah, I'm totally sure those beliefs led Crist to become a Democrat.
It's possible that it's purely a political move on his part, but note that I said his decision could possibly be due to the far right shift of the party, which seems to be what he is saying.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ow-a-democrat/
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“I’ve had friends for years tell me, ‘You know Charlie, you’re a Democrat and you don’t know it,’” he told the Times on Friday, adding that his decision was based on the rightward shift in the Republican Party.

“What changed is the leadership of the Republican Party,” he said. “As I said at the convention, I didn’t leave the Republican Party, it left me. Whether the issue was immigration, or education, or you name it — the environment. I feel at home now.”
Crist, despite hyping up his "conservatism" during election years, has always been a moderate. And he might have believed the things he said about Palin when she was initially picked as VP. However, he was a major player in McCain's campaign, so I suspect it was probably more of a case of him just paying lip service for the sake of the campaign.
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It's possible that it's purely a political move on his part, but note that I said his decision could possibly be due to the far right shift of the party, which seems to be what he is saying.
Yes, that's what he's saying now, but before he bailed, he was claiming he was at the far right of the party. His claims are incompatible and he has no credibility.

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Crist, despite hyping up his "conservatism" during election years, has always been a moderate.
I'm not sure why you think that gets him off the hook. If he was always a moderate then he was lying then, and he could just as easily be lying now.

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And he might have believed the things he said about Palin when she was initially picked as VP. However, he was a major player in McCain's campaign, so I suspect it was probably more of a case of him just paying lip service for the sake of the campaign.
And you don't think he could be paying lip service to Obama for the sake of his own political prospects?
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