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9th June 2018, 09:03 PM | #3601 |
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9th June 2018, 11:32 PM | #3603 |
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10th June 2018, 12:12 AM | #3604 |
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The Dossier's veracity is moot. Remember, it was just the intel one guy could collect over a not particularly lengthy period. The subsequent investigation has gone well beyond this (due to the number of investigators), and has resulted in some 20 subjects being indicted.
Trumpettes are grasping onto *anything* where doubt remains, in an effort to both delude themselves and distract the rest of us. At this point, we in the peanut gallery might as well forget completely Steele's dossier. It's now only serving as a bone for the Trumpers to gnaw on and growl over, and has no real relevance simply because it has been superceded by the Mueller investigation. |
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10th June 2018, 01:56 AM | #3606 |
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No, we don’t “know” that and neither do you. You may want to believe the Nunes memo is gospel, but surely even you can see that it was more than a little motivated by partisanship. Or, I don’t know, can you? You’re still pulling out the long-dead Uranium One CT. Maybe you can’t. |
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10th June 2018, 06:18 AM | #3612 |
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Perpetuating has a clear damaging impact on Trump. He loses his mind when he tweets about it. He makes himself appear guilty when talks about it. It's forced serious news people to use the words golden shower and the president in the same sentence. there are some clear indications it's damaged his home life. If it damages Trump it's good for the country.
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10th June 2018, 07:21 AM | #3614 |
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10th June 2018, 07:48 AM | #3618 |
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How quickly we go from McCabe is a patriot to ignoring the facts about the OIG to asserting that McCabe's criminal lawyer is acting reasonably in obtaining an immunity deal before testifying before Congress arising out of his misconduct while the person who was second in charge at the FBI.
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10th June 2018, 11:34 AM | #3620 |
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Nice as that may sound to some, it's not high on my list of reasons to perpetuate something. An added bonus, maybe, but... the massive death toll and unpreparedness of Puerto Rico for another hurricane would be an example of something that I think should be focused on more. There are so very many other stories that would have been major news under any other administration that have been quickly railroaded by one thing or another, too. Trump loses his mind about all kinds of crap, either way, so no need to make it all about him even if you want that to happen.
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10th June 2018, 02:52 PM | #3624 |
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As others have pointed out... No, the case against Trump does not rely on the Steele dossier.
Things that we know about Trump/Russia connections that were either discovered independent of the Steele Dossier or have been independently verified: - Trump asking Russia to hack into Clinton's servers during the election. (Ok, that was just rhetoric, but it shows Trump had little regard for the rule of law or national security) - Statements from Trump's sons about how he gets all the money he needs from Russian banks. (There are also other business dealings between Trump and various Russian Oligarchs, but just the "Trump gets money from Russia" statement should be enough to arouse anyone's curiosity) - Trump advisor Papadopoulos bragged about Russia having "dirt" on Clinton. https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/30/polit...ump/index.html - Meetings between the Trump campaign team and a Russian connected to their administration (along with an email about how "if its what I think it is its great"). This of course was accompanied by multiple lies.... first a failure to mention the meeting in various security forms, then lies about what happened.) - Actions by Trump as president... delays in implementing sanctions required by congress, and a request to readmit Russia into the G7/G8. Not one of those items relies on the Steele dossier for verification. |
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As an addendum to this, there's still the question of whether the President and his administration is actually enforcing the sanctions that were eventually implemented. As of April, when the last burst of reporting on the subject seems to have happened, the answer was still "no." Even when it comes to the implementation in the first place, though, the Meese Gambit seems to be in play. "We're going to sanction you after giving you plenty of time to rearrange your assets and prepare for them so you'll barely be affected by them." Yeah, that's totally in keeping with the intent of retaliation for crimes committed against the US.
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Senator Richard Blumenthal in response to Ryan claiming no evidence of collusion: "There is evidence of collusion."
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