How homeopathy does work? - 4 Years of DHMS course.

Qureshi1_78 can be seen trolling in these threads also, with much the same gusto and all the vivid statements, yet with no evidence:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37456
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1256142#post1256142
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1256140#post1256140
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1256137#post1256137
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1256134#post1256134
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1256171#post1256171

I would consider it trolling to come over to the JREF forum and link back to another forum demanding users here answer questions there, and these concerns have been brought to a moderator's attention.
 
Qureshi1_78 said:
Delphie I have read your post at www.nch.ipbfree.com forum. Nice posts. :)
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You are a lying troll. I didn't write any of those things and you know it. Crawl back in your hole and don't come back this time.

(For those who aren't in the know, these lunatics created accounts in some of our names and made false posts using our names on their board. Yes. They are THAT pathetic.)
 
delphi_ote said:
You are a lying troll. I didn't write any of those things and you know it. Crawl back in your hole and don't come back this time.

(For those who aren't in the know, these lunatics created accounts in some of our names and made false posts using our names on their board. Yes. They are THAT pathetic.)
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I reported his posts to a mod. I am certain that to come here, flame and harass posters, and post links to another board constitutes harassment and spamming.

For the record I have not, and now seeing the caliber of jerk that resides in that forum WILL NOT sign up there. If you see a fowlsound at that forum it certainly is not me.
 
Zep said:
So far, Dr MAS has supplied just enough wibble to fill in 1 day of a real course and bore the arse off the more awake students. I wonder where the other 364+(365*3) days' worth of notes are...
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[pedantic]4*365[/pedantic]
 
MRC_Hans said:
What are you talking about? Which words have I taken back? Certainly not any about Dr. MAS.
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I can only assume they meant this, which is what they originally claimed they were objecting to.

Now they have two problems:

1) To show us where you said it;

2) To show us where you retracted it.

Come on, Qureshi: let's have some links, either to these, or to whatever it is that you are claiming that Hans retracted.
 
Eh? Huh?

Sorry, I must have fell asleep. I was waiting for a response to my one question I have asked every single homeopath on this board, well, at least the ones who have posted since last May or so...

SO. I have a vial of pills I recieved froma homeopath, and I happened to have a vial of untreated sugar pills laying about, as well. Unfortunately, when the Mrs. was putting stuff away, she tore the labels off, and, as the bottles were similar in outer aspects, I cannot tell which was which.

I have access to a lab, and I know how to use the equipment. Or, if I suppose if I asked very politely, geni or Rolfe might even test it for me. However, I need a procedure on how to tell one from the other.

So, how would you tell the treated from the untreated?


Someone PM me if they ever answer. I'm out of here.

ETA: Oh, and any clarsct over there is wholly bogus, as well. I haven't the patience to deal with such drivel.
 
Homeopathy is transparent fraud and its "practitioners" are liars, cheats, and con artists.

Those who pretent to be "learned" in homeopathy do so because:

* they are unwilling to or incapable of studying science
* they realize that they are surrounded by fools ripe for the picking
* they are insecure and feel the need to be, falsely, labeled as 'learned'
* they are not people of quality, honor, or capability

They are beneath contempt.
 
Complexity said:
Homeopathy is transparent fraud and its "practitioners" are liars, cheats, and con artists.

Those who pretent to be "learned" in homeopathy do so because:

* they are unwilling to or incapable of studying science
* they realize that they are surrounded by fools ripe for the picking
* they are insecure and feel the need to be, falsely, labeled as 'learned'
* they are not people of quality, honor, or capability

They are beneath contempt.
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Name the place and time I can buy you a beer for that post.
 
Dr MAS has the final definitive proof :D

Dr MAS said:
I am against “attitude” of opposing Homeopathic Treatment by hook and crook or with baseless questioning. The same situation was happened at JREF forum. From the beginning, it was the demand of skeptics to explain the physiological effect of homeopathic potencies when the potencies have no molecules according to the avogadros number’s limit. They have strong believe that homeopathic potencies at above 18c have no molecules hence there would be no effect at all except the placebo. There entire discussion was moving around avogadros number’s edge. Badly shaved monkey came a derived a long equation which was rejected on the very first step by other JREF members, when my colleagues said on the first reaction starting material of a substance was changed and converted into another product then how can you derive the rest of the equation. He came with another name and said ok if a starting compound is not changed into another new compound then how can you reject avogadro equation. Masgp (Member of Dr. MAS organization) replied if you agree and accept that your derived equation is wrong according to stated example then masgp will also explain it further but he never came back with “Yes” answer. This shows that he is still standing at his wrong derived equation then what else you want to discuss.

10 Million dollars offer was also announced but no one ever crossed the first stage. They all failed to prove that homeopathy medicines are only placebos. Their viewpoint is the thing, which does not exist, cannot be proved. I again reject this idea. Everything can be proved in this world or atleast it can be prove in this world that homeopathic potencies have no effects at above 18 c potencies.

I again offer to them if anybody proves that “homeopathic medicines have only placebo effects and from them we cannot treat or cure any patient” then I will pay ten million rupees.

PROVE YOUR AVOGADROS LAW AND GET HUNDRED OF PRIZES
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:dl:
 
"Hundreds of prizes", reminds me of a gameshow.

I wonder if the prizes are things like "This fabulous Bullseye mug!" and "This amazing teasmaid!"

I can more easily picture MAS et al running one of those 80s gameshows than I can passing exams.
 
Complexity said:
Homeopathy is transparent fraud and its "practitioners" are liars, cheats, and con artists.

Those who pretent to be "learned" in homeopathy do so because:

* they are unwilling to or incapable of studying science
* they realize that they are surrounded by fools ripe for the picking
* they are insecure and feel the need to be, falsely, labeled as 'learned'
* they are not people of quality, honor, or capability

They are beneath contempt.
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Thanks for your remarks. If it is a fraud and you are perfect in your statement then you can will 10 million ruppees offer. Just prove it what you are stating. So simple equation.

If you do then you will get two benefit. One the prize money and other is we will leave homeopathy for ever.
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
Thanks for your remarks. If it is a fraud and you are perfect in your statement then you can will 10 million ruppees offer. Just prove it what you are stating. So simple equation.

If you do then you will get two benefit. One the prize money and other is we will leave homeopathy for ever.
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By my calculations that translates to $226,603.22 USD.

Surely you can raise more than that? Oh well never mind. How about this:

Please provide evidence that this money exists, and that upon completion of your challenge to the positive you are required by law to pay it out.

You see, the JREF provides that. That's how we know they're serious and honest about their testing procedures.
 
Dr. A Sheikh said:
Thanks for your remarks. If it is a fraud and you are perfect in your statement then you can will 10 million ruppees offer. Just prove it what you are stating. So simple equation.

If you do then you will get two benefit. One the prize money and other is we will leave homeopathy for ever.
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Wow. It's 10 million now? I guess if you're just making up a number, it doesn't matter how big it is. Why not a trillion?
 
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