The conspirators thread, what happened ?

jessicarabbit said:
Flight 77 hit the pentagon. 93 crashed in shanksville. The investigation is untristworthy as I pointed out with this report

http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_in...ts-scientific-integrity-in-policy-making.html
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Repeating irrelevancies doesn't make them relevant. You have provided no evidence of interference with NIST on 9/11 issues, and a search of the UCSUSA archives turns up nothing.

When will you be contacting the NIST investigators to gather more information, Jessica?

When will you learn that we require evidence here, Jessica? When?
 
jessicarabbit said:
I will offer a possibility.

Some time before 911 the administration realised its oil campaign would need a bit of public support. Utilising their control of Al quaida and suppressing genuine attempts to apprehend them, they facilitated a watershed attack. Since then they have used 911 as an excuse for everything and describe it as an opportunity (see my sig).
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now all you need are some facts and evidence

fiction, at best,
 
jessicarabbit said:
Four planes were hijacked by Al Quada on 9/11. The towers and 7 were demolished to add effect to the attack
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That's something I've never understood - the iconic images of 9/11 were the WTC towers (and, of course, the casualties caused when they fell had a big impact). I get the sense that many still don't even know/remember that WTC7 fell, and it didn't get nearly as much media attention as the towers (not surprisingly, given it was empty when it fell). Even if the CIA/Mossad/PNAC/whoever wanted to demolish the WTC towers for increased impact, why bother with WTC7?

Can you really picture the conspirators thinking - right, so we're going to have to demolish the WTC towers to add to the impact of the attacks. Hmm, but just to be sure we'd best also have a smaller building on the WTC site evacuated, and then demolish this a while later...
 
jon said:
That's something I've never understood - the iconic images of 9/11 were the WTC towers (and, of course, the casualties caused when they fell had a big impact). I get the sense that many still don't even know/remember that WTC7 fell, and it didn't get nearly as much media attention as the towers (not surprisingly, given it was empty when it fell). Even if the CIA/Mossad/PNAC/whoever wanted to demolish the WTC towers for increased impact, why bother with WTC7?

Can you really picture the conspirators thinking - right, so we're going to have to demolish the WTC towers to add to the impact of the attacks. Hmm, but just to be sure we'd best also have a smaller building on the WTC site evacuated, and then demolish this a while later...
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Come on, man. Don't you see? The Twin Towers, allright. But after that, 'they' needed to add some real dramatic event to conclude 9/11. Never heard of a climax? :rolleyes:
 
Jessica, where are you, are you ignored me?

Is what you have written the official line?

Just a few sentences Jessica, that’s all it will take to show me your theories.

So on you go.
"Some time before 911............... (please enter sentences)...........................so 911 is an inside job"
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stateofgrace said:
Jessica, where are you, are you ignored me?

Is what you have written the official line?

Just a few sentences Jessica, that’s all it will take to show me your theories.

So on you go.
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No way, pal. Like all the P D'ohs and Dockers before, wabbit will not answer direct questions.
 
Bell said:
Come on, man. Don't you see? The Twin Towers, allright. But after that, 'they' needed to add some real dramatic event to conclude 9/11. Never heard of a climax? :rolleyes:
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Ah, clearly I've failed to grasp the evil brilliance behind the attacks...
 
I'll play:

(Some time before 9-11 ...) the organization which would become known as Al-Qaeda was created and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan. After the withdrawl and subsequent economic collapse of the Soviet Union the CIA continued to support and fund Al-Qaeda via the Pakistani intelligence agency with the knowledge of high level operatives like OBL but unknown to common islamic militant foot soldiers who hated U.S. support for Israel and the presence of U.S. troops in the Middle East. Al-Qaeda was created and maintained to become the face of the new boggyman to replace the Red Menace and justify continued defense spending.

At the highest level, 9-11 was planned by a very small but influentional group with ties to The Project for the New American Century in order to realize U.S. hegemony as outlined in Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives." Al-Qaeda executed the plan with help from governmental agencies including the CIA and State Department (expediting student visas for the hijackers, stopping investigations by the FBI and DoD into the hijacker's activities before the event).

Nineteen Al-Qaeda foot soldiers hijacked four planes on 9-11 according to plan (which may not have been a suicide mission). The four planes were taken control of and piloted remotely to their target to ensure a higher probability of operational success.

Three planes hit buildings. Two planes hit the WTC which subsequently burned and and collapsed. One hit the Pentagon. The fourth either crashed in PA due to malfunction with the remote guidance or was shot down as a planned psyop (with the cover story of "let's roll") to bolster American confidence in what would be come the "War on Terror."

Every word of the NIST report is true. WTC 7 collapsed due to structural damage and fire. All passengers including the hijackers on each of the four flights died.
 
Nevermore said:
I'll play:

(Some time before 9-11 ...) the organization which would become known as Al-Qaeda was created and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan. After the withdrawl and subsequent economic collapse of the Soviet Union the CIA continued to support and fund Al-Qaeda via the Pakistani intelligence agency with the knowledge of high level operatives like OBL but unknown to common islamic militant foot soldiers who hated U.S. support for Israel and the presence of U.S. troops in the Middle East. Al-Qaeda was created and maintained to become the face of the new boggyman to replace the Red Menace and justify continued defense spending.

At the highest level, 9-11 was planned by a very small but influentional group with ties to The Project for the New American Century in order to realize U.S. hegemony as outlined in Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives." Al-Qaeda executed the plan with help from governmental agencies including the CIA and State Department (expediting student visas for the hijackers, stopping investigations by the FBI and DoD into the hijacker's activities before the event).

Nineteen Al-Qaeda foot soldiers hijacked four planes on 9-11 according to plan (which may not have been a suicide mission). The four planes were taken control of and piloted remotely to their target to ensure a higher probability of operational success.

Three planes hit buildings. Two planes hit the WTC which subsequently burned and and collapsed. One hit the Pentagon. The fourth either crashed in PA due to malfunction with the remote guidance or was shot down as a planned psyop (with the cover story of "let's roll") to bolster American confidence in what would be come the "War on Terror."

Every word of the NIST report is true. WTC 7 collapsed due to structural damage and fire. All passengers including the hijackers on each of the four flights died.
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Did you know the phrase lets roll was papented on 20th september 2001?
 
Bell said:
And that proves a conspiracy how :confused:
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Didn't say it did? Have the rules changed? Does every word I utter have to prove a conspiracy? Can I not just add a point of interest?

By the way, the todd beamer foundation website was purchased on 12th Sept 2001. So grief stricken that the following day they are registering URLs
 
The catchphrase became especially known and popular after being used by President George W. Bush in a speech to AmeriCorps volunteers and during his 2002 State of the Union Address. Profiteers soon tried to lay claim to it as a trademark, even though the phrase was in common use long before September 11. The phrase was successfully registered as a trademark by the Todd M. Beamer Foundation
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From Wikipedia
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/w/index.php?title=Todd_M._Beamer_Foundation&action=edit
 
jessicarabbit said:
Didn't say it did? Have the rules changed? Does every word I utter have to prove a conspiracy? Can I not just add a point of interest?
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You are a conspiracy theorist posting in the Conspiracy Theories forum. You can sort of see why people would jump to conclusions.
 
jessicarabbit said:
From Wikipedia
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/w/index.php?title=Todd_M._Beamer_Foundation&action=edit
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Now the Todd M. Beamer Foundation wants to trademark it to sell hats, T-shirts and mugs in his memory.

The foundation says this was not the idea of Todd's widow, Lisa Beamer. But she approves of the plan to raise hundreds of millions of dollars to benefit the children who lost parents on Flight 93.

"The trademarking of 'Let's roll' is a strictly preventive measure from our standpoint," foundation executive director Doug MacMillan said. "We want to limit its use. We want to be able to protect it, and we want to utilize that to benefit the children."
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