Discussion of the Pentagon taxi cab driver's impossible account.

Lyte Trip said:

No convolution necessary.

You know we have new information.

Our opinion on Lloyd has been 100% verified.

There is no possible way that Dylan, you, or anyone (that's not a jrefer) will be able to doubt it.

As I said you were and are welcome to call me to talk about it if you wish.

There was no need to ignore, stew, and blow your top about it instead.

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Lyte Trip said:

Russell,

Please answer this one question:

If you were convinced the plane flew on the north side of the citgo would THAT implicate Lloyd or a flyover to you?

Please answer.
Craig

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Lyte Trip said:

Russell,

Please answer this one question:

If you were convinced the plane flew on the north side of the citgo would THAT implicate Lloyd or a flyover to you?

Please answer.
Craig

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42. Start a Militia Group

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52. Turn off the t.v. and indulge in self education of government, political, and military operations.

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103. Build a File on Different Subjects

I'm planning to compile a notebook that includes relevant articles/gov't documents in page protectors to show to people when I start going off on a rant. I think most people would be more receptive to issues such as concentration camps if there was, for example, that article declaring "Ashcrofts hellish vision - camps for citizens" staring them in the face. We have to shake people up and get them to realize there will likely be serious consequences for their inaction .

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Russell Pickering said:

Present the data already.

Enough hype and BS. Even if you have discovered new facts, the way you have handled this is so discrediting that you have spoken volumes about yourself in the process.

This would have been shared for free in detail weeks ago.

I am angry about how you have taken the hard work and relationships I developed and twisted them to contrive your world view. Everything is fake and everyone is deep cover and all evidence to the south of the Citgo is a black operation will not be supported as historical fact in the end.

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Lyte Trip said:

Excellent picture!

This perfectly shows the impossibility of it.

http://opendb.com/images/pole.jpg

Think of the pole landing like that after being hit by a 757 and the car was moving 40 mph!

But it never touches the ground or the hood of the car?

For the record......Russell also inspected the poles and just agreed that this part of Lloyd's story is.........

would you say impossible or implausible Russell?

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Russell Pickering said:

Present your data and quit the silly chatter.

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Lyte Trip said:

Excellent picture!

This perfectly shows the impossibility of it.

[qimg]http://opendb.com/images/pole.jpg[/qimg]

Think of the pole landing like that after being hit by a 757 and the car was moving 40 mph!

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Roger_Harris said:

It's a Lincoln Town Car; perhaps not exactly the same model, but the proportions would be similar enough to make the point (which is not that I think that's what happened; just that LT isn't going to get anywhere with his "impossible" argument).

The seat shown in England's original photo is the front seat, which appears to me have been whacked pretty good. I don't believe there are any photos of the back seat. In England's original drawing, however, he has clearly added a detail of the pole sticking into the back seat. That's why I asked LT what he said when he was drawing that detail in the picture. But I guess "elite investigators" know what information to ignore...

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The next day he called and they had impounded his car. They told him it would be $80 to get it back (he had a couple of things to say about that). Then somebody helped him get it back with no charge but he had to call a friend to tow it. The friend towed it to Lloyd's house. Lloyd said it wouldn't start the day before and the guy told him to open the trunk. The guy "flipped a switch" and they started the car. Lloyd said it was the fuel pump switch.

I had never heard of this myself so I looked into it. The Lincoln-Mercury has a inertia fuel shutoff switch that shuts off fuel to the engine with an impact. In some of the troubleshooting guides I read it can trigger on a bumpy road or a pothole in some cases. Apparently the piece of the pole hit hard enough in the back seat to trigger that switch.

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/018.html

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Russell Pickering said:

Cease trying to implicate me in any way as being in support of you.

Present your data and I will review it fairly as with everything else in regards to the Pentagon.

The arrogance is very disheartening when it is supposed to be the truth you are after. Even if your story is true, the record of your communications leading up to it have discredited the both of you as having no integrity at all.

This is NOT how truth looks.

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Peephole said:

So if believing no planes hit the Pentagon and WTC makes you a no-planer, does believing no poles were hit make you a no-poler?

Tell me chemtrail boy, how did the US government sever your precious pole?

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firecoins said:

arer you saying the pole has a concrete core?

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roger said:

This pole is giving me a raging clue.

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DHR said:

Wow the bend in the pole. are we getting sexy here.

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Mince said:

Here is my scientific analysis of why the light pole never contacted the hood of the taxi:



http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_11712457630fdb8a2b.jpg

Obviously, the light pole catches the roof of the taxi and the weight of the taxi keeps the light pole in place.

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Gravy said:

Stop, Craig. You have a serious mental problem that has led you to accuse 9/11 victims of complicity in the attacks. You are becoming disconnected from reality. This is serious. Please get help.

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Lyte Trip said:

Wrong.

The damage to the light poles and the cab were pre-fabricated and staged in order to establish the fake flight path of the plane into the pentagon.

The damage to the pentagon was staged in order to simulate the impact of a 757.

A decoy plane flew fast and low over the neighborhoods to fool the people into believing a plane made impact but in reality it flew over the pentagon concealed by the fireball.

It was a perfectly timed sleight of hand illusion.

But the course of the plane was accidently off a little bit placing the plane to the north of the citgo station.

As a result of this miniscule mistake the entire plot will be exposed.

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Lyte Trip said:

Why do you refuse to engage me in discussion?

I have always debated civil with you.

I even invited you to call me and talk about what we know.

Why are you resentful that we are sparking discussion on the matter before we release the info?

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Lyte Trip said:

Why do you refuse to engage me in discussion?

I have always debated civil with you.

I even invited you to call me and talk about what we know.

Why are you resentful that we are sparking discussion on the matter before we release the info?

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Lyte Trip said:

Why?

We are informing people of the subject matter and engaging discussion.

We will tell anyone trusted in private all that we have.

We are merely keeping the specific details private until the entire presentation is ready.

What is so wrong with that?

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Russell Pickering said:

Please present the data.

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Russell Pickering said:

I will wait until the data is presented.

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Lyte Trip said:

Then please hold back your judgement.

There is no need to continue to slander us and ridicule our beliefs when you refuse to even listen to what we know.

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Lyte Trip said:

I was there with Russell Pickering the first time who obtained the data from them direct and created that image.

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Bell said:

But you slander all you like. Hypocrite.

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