Discussion of the Pentagon taxi cab driver's impossible account.

Lyte Trip said:
Oh for crying out loud.

I never claimed to know the answer to this or have evidence in this regard.

I simply have evidence placing the plane on the north of the citgo station.

You can make up your own hypothesis from there.
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In this scenario could you please explain what you believe happened to the passengers and people in the Pentagon ?
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I didn't say you had all the answers, i just asked what you believed happened.

Is that too much to ask ?

ETA: Nevermind, give it a rest
 
Lyte Trip said:
It is not me who says that.....it's Lloyd who said that and illustrated that.
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no he didn't say that.
he said he didn't know, and when it was suggested to him, he somewhat agreed that it was.

realie that he is relating his epxerince 5 years after the fact.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Looks like you can only resort to turning the argument to be about me as opposed to the data.
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There is no data, remember? You haven't released it yet.

Yeesh. Until you do, you'll probably find that people here will amuse themselves any way they see fit.

-Gumboot
 
Seems as if Mr England might be a little conflicted.

On the one hand a bloody great light pole speared his car, causing not only danger to his life, but also impacted on his business.

Then along come some woowoos who don't believe the official account and mr england (it appears) is prone towards a little CT fantasy himself.

So, how does the 'elite pentagon reasearch team' introduce themselves to mr england, and to all of the other witnesses they interviewed?

Are they upfront with them and declare that they are amatuer investigators whose hobby is trying to find flaws with the official account of events which occured five years previously? Do they point out that they are not affiliated with any recognised news organisation, private investigations agency or law enforcement agency?

Do they make it clear to the witnesses that anything they say in response to their (at times leading) questions will most probably end up in an internet video and posted on various CT websites and forum?

Do they offer the witnesses the opportunity to view the finished representation of their words before it is released to the public, to ensure accuracy?

And do the elite pentagon investigation team understand that, without the backing of an accountable organisation to which the witnesses can appeal if they feel they are misrepresented, they are really just having informal conversations with some people who may, or may not, be telling them the truth?

Do the egos of the elite pentagon research team really comprehend just how insignificant their evidence appears/will appear in the real world?
 
Maccy's right, everyone should take Gravy's suggestion.

@Lyte Trip, please only come back with your evidence and stop infuriating us.
 
To the recent participants in this thread:

I have had to move a lot of posts to AAH and imposed a suspension on one participant in this thread (Scientologist) because of multiple breaches of your Membership Agreement.

Once again I will state that we allow anyone to post their views/opinions/claims here as long as they abide by their registration and Membership Agreements.

No matter what "side" someone is taking in a discussion breaching your Membership Agreement to make personal attacks on another Member will not be tolerated.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat
 
Lyte Trip said:
Some questions I simply choose to not answer because I am not yet willing to reveal them.
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So, not only do you not answer questions put to you in a rude manner, you also do not answer some questions put to you, because you are not yet willing to do so.

Which questions of mine are of the latter kind?

1. Please inform us what time frame we can expect.
2. Please name 3 authorities you will present your evidence to.
3. Discussing it here may have a value, but, surely, presenting it to the authorities should have your attention, more than posting here?
4. Perhaps presenting it to the authorities is not your goal?


Please list the numbers, and explain why you are not yet willing to reveal the answers.
 
It's only conjecture on my part, but I suspect that the reason the other slam-dunk evidence hasn't been presented yet is because they are still furiously looking for it mixed in with all that evidence that contradicts their theory.

Have patience; it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
 
Lyte Trip said:
Speculative hypothesis:

The poles were removed sometime in the middle of the the night perhaps even a day or two prior or the night before the event.

It was disguised as regular road detail.

Only pole #1 was in a conspicuous area so all the others were placed the night before or hours before the attack.

Pole number one and the pre damaged taxi were placed seconds after the the explosion had everyones attention.
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And you find this a more reasonable hypothesis than the hypothesis that out of the thousands of eye witnesses, you have found twenty (hell, let's be generous: make it a hundred) that are mistaken about where they saw the aircraft?

Remind me again how to "place a pre damaged taxi" within seconds from somewhere unseen onto a jam-packed highway in broad daylight. Some sort of huge high-speed crane system would be in order, and perhaps some NSA hobgoblins to make it all come together nicely. Unfortunately they used slightly incompetent hobgoblins, so the plot was uncovered by inquisitive and vigilant patriots such as yourself.
Now of course the brilliance of the plan with the taxi was af course the fact that after everyone was done being distracted by the explosions caused by a cruise missile filled with body parts and scraps of boeing 757, they were distracted by pre-damaged taxis in order to make the remotely piloted 757 escape unseen into a hidden cave near Gotham city, where a friendly butler named Alfred took the coats of all the passengers and gave them back some of the body parts that couldn't be accomodated in the cruise missile, yet had been optimistically severed in advance, just to be sure.

Well, if you put it that way...
 
Lyte Trip said:
Excuse me?

What gibberish are you blabbering?

I think Icke is a joke.

Yes I am creeped out that a seemingly simple old guy like Lloyd happened to be reading such an intense heady piece of controversial conspiracy garbage on 9/11 as he was smack dab in the middle of arguably the oddest and most important defining evidential circumstance at the pentagon.

Looks like your fellow jref buddies are too!

Funny how it's not curious at all to you!
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Ummm... I thought this was a taxi? A publicly utilised vehicle? One which many people enter and exit each day? How about if a passenger left it in his car?

You didn't answer my previous questions about how you know which exact pole hit the car, and the blue line on your drawing. Also, I wondered what the width of a plane is from wing tip to wing tip - I am assuming it is wider than the blue line you drew.

I'm just trying to understand the details you do actually decide to give out, while delaying the big presentation of irrefutable evidence. Can't you help me out here?
 
Just saw the request for a day of rest from this - I'm also ok with taking a break.
 
WildCat said:
That would go something like this:
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Gravy said:
Here's a suggestion: how about knocking off this flight 77 crap for a day, as a sign of respect to the Burlingame family?

Just a day. 24 hours. Then you can get right back to victim-bashing.

Agreed Lyte? Anyone have a problem with that idea?
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Wow. Sad. This is the first I heard about this.

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My deepest sympathies to the Burlingame family.
 
A couple of quick comments then I also will respect the hiatus gravy asked for in honor of ms. burlingame. I would suggest all others do so and not be provoked into posting early.

We are an emotional species; it is one of the things that makes us unique from the myraid other lifeforms on this planet; but sometimes that emotion can become controlling and take over our more rational responses.

See Darat's post #869. One person has already been suspended because he could not keep his emotions in check, and truth be told, if I was a mod at least two others would be in the 3-day sin bin and a couple of others would be periously close.

So everybody, take a deep breath, remember WE are supposed to be the rational ones in this debate, drop the insults, and read Carnivore's or Blonn's posts--even Russell Pickering (to give three examples, not exclusive of others)) on how to be opposed and indignant without lowering the tone.

Then come back and continue to do what we do best--provide evidence instead of speculation, math instead of guesses, logic and reason instead of insults and trolling-type behavior.

Please.
 
Hutch said:
A couple of quick comments then I also will respect the hiatus gravy asked for in honor of ms. burlingame. I would suggest all others do so and not be provoked into posting early.

We are an emotional species; it is one of the things that makes us unique from the myraid other lifeforms on this planet; but sometimes that emotion can become controlling and take over our more rational responses.

See Darat's post #869. One person has already been suspended because he could not keep his emotions in check, and truth be told, if I was a mod at least two others would be in the 3-day sin bin and a couple of others would be periously close.

So everybody, take a deep breath, remember WE are supposed to be the rational ones in this debate, drop the insults, and read Carnivore's or Blonn's posts--even Russell Pickering (to give three examples, not exclusive of others)) on how to be opposed and indignant without lowering the tone.

Then come back and continue to do what we do best--provide evidence instead of speculation, math instead of guesses, logic and reason instead of insults and trolling-type behavior.

Please.
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You are correct Hutch. I am one that let emotions get the better of me earlier in this thread and as such I apologize. I apologize to the forum and the members who have offered rational and reasonable debate.

As requested and as a mark of respect I will not post on this topic for the next 24 hours . From there on I will not post any further out bursts at the people who are trying to push this theory.

I will from here remain civil and will not post any further insults towards the cters.

This is clearly a very emotive topic and as such, unless I can offer any form of constructive counter agruement I will simply watch as it progresses.

My sympathies to the Burlingame family.
 
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