What is wrong with what Steorn is doing?

Ooops..

Too quick.

The museum link is a hoax / joke! But it may still be the correct location.

Press releases are OK.

Just trying to get the news to you first :confused:
 
sk3eptical: He already did a Kinetica thing, back in December, I think. Kind of a "bust"....

IIRC, his Public Relations firm is also the PR firm of Kinetica. I wouldn't be surprised if he arranges something through them.

Sean's promise is for a demo during the first week of July. We're half-way there. I am turning blue from holding my breath.
 
sk3eptical: He already did a Kinetica thing, back in December, I think. Kind of a "bust"....


I seem to remember they originally said they were going to exhibit a working machine then, but withdrew it because they were afraid of someone stealing it or something.
 
It's Alive...

Latest:

rte.ie/news/2007/0704/steorn.html

"Steorn Chief Executive Sean McCarthy has said the demonstration will involve a 'very simplified version' of the technology and it will be open to the public from Thursday 5 July to Friday 13 July at the Kinetica Museum at Spitalfields Market in London.

Sceptics can view the device lifting a weight from four different camera angles online.

Mr McCarthy said the company had decided against using the technology to illuminate a light-bulb as the use of wires would attract further suspicion from a scientific community that has already dismissed the device."

The Kinetica home page confirms the demo.

The camera are for streaming the video over the internet.
 
Same Old ...

http://www.randi.org/jr/2006-09/092206bad.html#i6

It sounds like they advertised to get independent scientists (not biased skeptical organizations or personalities) to test their product.


The appeal to scientists is not all that impressive.

It's not unusual for bona fide scientists to give their support to quackery, especially when their expertise is in another field apart from what the quack professes. It just takes one 'expert' opinion trumpeted in the media by a P.R. firm to sway the masses.

Like a Nobel scientist claiming that vitamin C kept him alive since the days of Caesar without a sniffle of illness in all those years, even though he has no training or expertise in the field of nutritional sciences to qualify his opinion. Like professional sports people claiming that magic magnets in their shoes or worn as a bracelet cured them of pain better than any established medical treatments, etc.

Quack products are seen on TV all the time with genuine doctors, 'experts' and celebrities touting their benefits, such as magnets for pain, weight-loss diets that transform you into a model of fitness while you sleep.

With the right P.R. campaign and attractive product packaging, everything has a market, no matter how absurd the product may be. Pet rocks come to mind.

LOL
 
Quack products are seen on TV all the time with genuine doctors....touting their benefits...


Here in Australia, until a few years ago, doctors were not permitted to allow themselves to be used in advertising campaigns. Then the outgoing head of the AMA had that changed just before she completed her term. She immediately started advertising for an alternative medicine supply company. Talk about cynical self interest. The medical profession as a whole has been the loser. The good news is that this decision has recently been reversed (although existing contacts will be allowed to run their course). The bad news is that that particular doctor still commands respect within the medical profession.
 
"Steorn Chief Executive Sean McCarthy has said the demonstration will involve a 'very simplified version' of the technology and it will be open to the public from Thursday 5 July to Friday 13 July at the Kinetica Museum at Spitalfields Market in London.
Yeah, that's where I would display the most incredible scientific breakthrough in the history of mankind, an art museum. :rolleyes:

Sceptics can view the device lifting a weight from four different camera angles online.
<sarcasm>That's the proof we have all be waiting for! A web cam! </sarcasm>

Not that I've been able to find the link to the web cam yet though...

Mr McCarthy said the company had decided against using the technology to illuminate a light-bulb as the use of wires would attract further suspicion from a scientific community that has already dismissed the device."
Given the structure of the device, it would be child's play to pack the frame chock full of batteries.

In other words, more PR and still no peer review.
 
Latest:

rte.ie/news/2007/0704/steorn.html

"Steorn Chief Executive Sean McCarthy has said the demonstration will involve a 'very simplified version' of the technology and it will be open to the public from Thursday 5 July to Friday 13 July at the Kinetica Museum at Spitalfields Market in London.

Sceptics can view the device lifting a weight from four different camera angles online.

Mr McCarthy said the company had decided against using the technology to illuminate a light-bulb as the use of wires would attract further suspicion from a scientific community that has already dismissed the device."

The Kinetica home page confirms the demo.

The camera are for streaming the video over the internet.

My sources tell me it will be a no-show.

We shall see!
 
My favorite(favourite) sign in a bar (pub) in New York... The Riviera.
The sign was there for the fifteen years that I knew the place, and is probably still there ten years later....

Free Beer Tomorrow
 
My favorite(favourite) sign in a bar (pub) in New York... The Riviera.
The sign was there for the fifteen years that I knew the place, and is probably still there ten years later....

Free Beer Tomorrow

Now, where is the International Dateline when it really could come in handy?
 
Rank Amateur Scammers?

But effective rank amateur scammers as people keep hanging in there.

Their press page this week had posted the following:

http://www.steorn.com/news/releases/?id=1001

Steorn demonstrates free energy technology in public forum

Demonstration at Kinetica Museum, London, UK is world's first outing for Steorn's Orbo technology and will be streamed live around the world

London, 4th July 2007. Steorn, an Irish technology development company, will publicly demonstrate a real-life application of its Orbo free energy technology for the first time. The demonstration will take place in the Kinetica Museum gallery, London UK on Wednesday 4th July. People around the world will be able to watch the exhibit via a live web stream.

The real-time streaming of the Orbo free energy technology demonstration can be accessed via steorn.com/orbo/demo from 6pm Eastern Time (ET) today. People logging onto the link can select different camera angles so they can see the exhibit from various positions. The Kinetica Museum exhibit will thereafter be open to members of the public from Thursday July 5th until Friday July 13th.

Steorn's Orbo technology is based on the interaction of magnetic fields and allows the production of clean, free and constant energy. The exhibit on display will demonstrate work being done by the spinning of a clear polycarbonate wheel with no recourse to external energy. Orbo technology is fully scalable and can be applied to virtually all devices requiring energy, from cellular phones to cars.

This is their latest release, it is dated 4 July. There's a post at the bottom of the page at 11:30 pm (the day is like, uh, over by then), saying

Update 4/7/07 23:30

Due to slight technical difficulties we will now be publishing the live stream as of Thursday 5th July.

(bolding mine)

I love these guys.
Due to "slight" technical difficulties.... ?


"Slight"? Yeah, like rewriting the laws of physics!
"Technical Difficulties"!!! They've invented the device that is going to change the world, and they can't get a video demo going. And we're supposed to believe in their revolutionary technology!

Further, the info above says "spinning a wheel", and the info posted by others says "lifting a weight".

Maybe the could get Chriss Angel in? He's good on camera angles and illusions.

:spjimlad: :spjimlad: :spjimlad: :spjimlad:
 
The best-case scenario as I currently see it, is that the entire episode will be revealed to be a performance art piece. Unfortunately, I'm cynical enough that I don't believe that explanation.
 
Here's the unofficial Steorn explanation, passed from Sean to Seamus (ya couldn't make these names up!)....

Posted in a sticky thread in the Steorn Forum....

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=58649&page=1#Item_0

CommentAuthorSeamusF CommentTime4 hours ago edited permalink
Hi Folks,

I was just chatting to Sean a couple of minutes ago and he asked me to pass on the following :


A test unit which was built yesterday in Kinetica, in the temporary lab we have set up. Once we had signed off on the final magnetic configurations we went to transfer this magnetic config to the display unit & casing on the exhibition floor.

Here they ran into some technical issues, firstly a problem with the bearings, which was fixed once identified. The next issue appears to be an environmental issue. We think possibly the temperature from the lighting system in the immediate area, but this has to be further assessed in the morning.

The current plan of action is to have a technical meeting in the morning and we will update you from there - we are planning to turn on the web streaming by lunch time so we can give you an ongoing update on progress (and you can see some stressed Engineers working in real-time, if it is not fixed by then!)

The demo will go ahead as soon as we fix the small outstanding issues.

Please accept our apologies on this and we will update you first thing in the morning.

Kind regards,

SeamusF

Okay, Sean..... Cut it out!!!!! I have work to do, but this is just too entertaining.

Check the bolded parts.... As one wag on their forum put it..... "It's effected by the heat of light bulbs???!!!!"

The commentary on the forum is hysterical. Just a sample:

CommentAuthor meta CommentTime3 hours ago permalink
Raven:I hope the technolgy is more durable than this, I drope my cell phone at least once a day

meta: true, and I use mine with the lights on quite often...

I highly recommend the forum discussion on this for the sheer humor value. The peanut gallery is silent and the skeptics are doing an Irish Jig!


http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=58650&page=1#Item_0


Oh, my spiders are going to get a good workout on this one.
:spjimlad: :spjimlad: :spjimlad: :spjimlad:
 
The free enegy tracker blog has a few (external, of the museum) pictures.

I guess i'll miss the grand opening, going to bed as I am, wake me up if the world is changed forever while I sleep :p.
 
The free enegy tracker blog has a few (external, of the museum) pictures.

I guess i'll miss the grand opening, going to bed as I am, wake me up if the world is changed forever while I sleep :p.

Sleep tight, we'll have no reason to wake you. The museum evidently opens around 11:00 London time (about six hours from now), and since Sean's talking about having a meeting this morning to discuss their problems, I don't think there will be anything running by that time, anyway.

Maybe it only runs in the dark when you can't see it?
 
Anyone remember the comedy "Soap"? This seems like a PM/OU version of that comedy.

These engineers build the "test unit" on the day of the demo. Replace a faulty bearing! Discover it doesn't work because of the light bulbs. Say "f.. it we'll look at it tomorrow" and go to the pub / restaurant. So much for the press etc.

Best entertainment around.
 

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