Where can I go?

jimmygun · 3rd September 2008, 02:37 AM

Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out?

geni · 3rd September 2008, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by jimmygun

Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out?

Depends what kind of questions do you want answers to?

Professor Yaffle · 3rd September 2008, 02:50 AM

I haven't read much on their forums, but the SCM (Student Christian Movement) are one of the groups more open to questioning. When I was at university, they were the opposite of the intolerant Christian Union.

http://www.movement.org.uk/index.cfm?method=forum.home

jimmygun · 4th September 2008, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Professor Yaffle

I haven't read much on their forums, but the SCM (Student Christian Movement) are one of the groups more open to questioning. When I was at university, they were the opposite of the intolerant Christian Union.

http://www.movement.org.uk/index.cfm?method=forum.home

Thanks for the link Professor. I took some time to read the posts from that forum, to get the lay of the land so to speak. They seem to be an open minded group, one that would'nt mind a bit of back and forth banter so I joined up. Here is a copy of my first post...

" Hello everyone. First time poster here. I am a bit off my beaten path, in that I am an atheist on a Christian forum. I was wondering if you would like to get to know me. I don’t pretend to speak for anyone else than myself and I am not a paying member of any organization.

I would welcome your questions and I will try to answer them as honestly and as straight forward as I can.

A bit of my history...

I am sixty years old, retired, and have been married most of my life (38 years) to a wonderful, devout Roman Catholic. I have two children (girl and boy) and my daughter has recently given my wife and I a fabulous, wonderful, perfect, bouncing, chubby little girl!

I sometimes lean toward humour (I take very little in this life seriously) but will attempt to conduct myself in a fitting manner.

Jimmygun "

I posted yesterday around 6:30-7:00pm but so far nothing but the sound of one hand clapping. I will post any replies here if and when they come.

Professor Yaffle · 4th September 2008, 03:48 AM

Actually, after a proper look at it, I don't anticipate you will get many replies. It seems a very quiet forum with posts few and far between.

Blackadder · 4th September 2008, 05:52 AM

Hi Jimmy, a good question. I have looked for the same. I would advise you to try your luck at some Christian sites based in the United Kingdom domain instead of the USA. Maybe it's just my bias but I found them open for discussion. I admit I know little about USA Christians, and most I hear is very negative so that is the basis of my prejudice.

I just did a Google search on 'Christianity forum' and as country only sites in Uk'

(you still get a lot of chaff, so among the results that turn up you must browse a bit to find something you look for. Some seem just to be places where Christians pat each ther on the back, but you should be able to find people open for discussion)

Arthur Denton · 4th September 2008, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by jimmygun

Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out?

Are you planning on trolling or in honest investigation? You should ask a local priest, I think. Avoid to do so in private, you may end seduced.

JoeTheJuggler · 4th September 2008, 08:18 AM

Also "Christian" is a very broad term. Any particular flavor of Christianity that interests you? On some issues, the differences can be stark.

As has been mentioned, you should probably approach a priest, minister or other representative of the kind of Christianity you're interested in.

-Fran- · 4th September 2008, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

Are you planning on trolling or in honest investigation? You should ask a local priest, I think. Avoid to do so in private, you may end seduced.

You mean seduction of a more carnal kind here?

Arthur Denton · 4th September 2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by -Fran-

You mean seduction of a more carnal kind here?

Course. Never trust a priest these days.

-Fran- · 4th September 2008, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

Course. Never trust a priest these days.

I thought it was just the choir boys that were in danger?

jimmygun · 4th September 2008, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

Are you planning on trolling or in honest investigation? You should ask a local priest, I think. Avoid to do so in private, you may end seduced.

I sincerely would like to see if someone out there has a different take on their religion or if they are all the same. I am interested in how and why someone came to religion and how and why they feel they benifit. At the same time I am outing myself in the hopes that some group of people will get to know the atheist side of me. There is so much propaganda and misinformation about atheism that I thought I might present a 'get to know an atheist' venue. As I said, I don't speak for anyone but myself but in doing so, with others, I think I have given something to think about. I am not out to convert.

Beerina · 5th September 2008, 07:39 AM

Ahhh, ask some good questions, like, if the human gains a soul at the moment of conception, where does the extra soul go when the two embryos merge?

pchams · 5th September 2008, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by Beerina

Ahhh, ask some good questions, like, if the human gains a soul at the moment of conception, where does the extra soul go when the two embryos merge?

Oh come on. That one is too easy.
They blend together for an average, just like colours.

Arthur Denton · 7th September 2008, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by -Fran-

I thought it was just the choir boys that were in danger?

Would you risk yourself?

Originally Posted by jimmygun

I sincerely would like to see if someone out there has a different take on their religion or if they are all the same. I am interested in how and why someone came to religion and how and why they feel they benifit. At the same time I am outing myself in the hopes that some group of people will get to know the atheist side of me. There is so much propaganda and misinformation about atheism that I thought I might present a 'get to know an atheist' venue. As I said, I don't speak for anyone but myself but in doing so, with others, I think I have given something to think about. I am not out to convert.

From my personal experience, if you just pick up your car and roam through the country, you'll find different religious experience on the same groups of religious people. I'm catholic born, atheist, then wicca, then I thought again (thousands of times) and decided to prove stuff, hence, skeptic. I know, in the church, priests who support condom, ex-priests who campaign for priest marriage, people who believe it ain't a sin to have pre-marital sex and people who think all of that above is hideous, depending from where they come from, mostly (education helps out a lot). And since most of the people I know who love the church are literate but have never read and studied the bible, their opinion on the prophets and the role of each piece in god's chess board varies an AWESOME lot. You'll get confused.

Originally Posted by Beerina

Ahhh, ask some good questions, like, if the human gains a soul at the moment of conception, where does the extra soul go when the two embryos merge?

Originally Posted by pchams

Oh come on. That one is too easy.
They blend together for an average, just like colours.

Can the sperm be frozen? Is the vacuum real? Are there other dimensions? If your dog dies, does he go to heaven too? What if your brain is implanted on a robot, then, and then you die on a combat, are you already in heaven when your body and heart failed or when the robot was destroyed? What is best, scientology or faith healing? Both? Who wins the next quiddich cup? Why is the sky blue? Why can't we see ghosts? Why can't the pope bang? Why is hereditary power still looked at as rightful if often your son hates what you do and is good at something completely different altogether? Why do people prefer ferraris to lamborghinis? Why do Michael Schumacher wins better than Ayrton Senna, and still, Ayrton Senna is worshipped a ton more? Why has Hitler killed a heckload of people and there are some people who deny the holocaust? Why George Bush was re-elected? Why... and so on?

-Fran- · 7th September 2008, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

Would you risk yourself?

I am 38 years old. I think I can handle a horny priest!

Arthur Denton · 7th September 2008, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by -Fran-

I am 38 years old. I think I can handle a horny priest!

Disturbing.

-Fran- · 7th September 2008, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

Disturbing.

What?

Arthur Denton · 7th September 2008, 10:43 AM

A horny priest.

-Fran- · 7th September 2008, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

A horny priest.

Nah, really, I wouldn't say that. I mean they are only humans after all and should be able to be as horny as all the rest us. A priest who directs that horniness to minors, or to anyone else who has expressed a wish not to be the subject of said horniness though - that is a disturbing priest.

Sunstealer · 8th September 2008, 01:31 AM

He's 38 not 3-8 years old.

Arthur Denton · 8th September 2008, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by -Fran-

Nah, really, I wouldn't say that. I mean they are only humans after all and should be able to be as horny as all the rest us. A priest who directs that horniness to minors, or to anyone else who has expressed a wish not to be the subject of said horniness though - that is a disturbing priest.

No, they're holy and blessed by the bible teachings. Nothing should shake their beliefs! They're the true blessed. INRI Christ said that his sexuality was removed by his father when the true gawd told him to bow down in prayer, and he sent the orgasm through his vertebrae. True story. Google for Inri Christ. In Portuguese, I'm afraid. Priests should have that power too, they can't falter into taking hare of their sheep.

Horny priest. Pfeh! Preposterous.

-Fran- · 8th September 2008, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

No, they're holy and blessed by the bible teachings. Nothing should shake their beliefs! They're the true blessed. INRI Christ said that his sexuality was removed by his father when the true gawd told him to bow down in prayer, and he sent the orgasm through his vertebrae. True story. Google for Inri Christ. In Portuguese, I'm afraid. Priests should have that power too, they can't falter into taking hare of their sheep.

Horny priest. Pfeh! Preposterous.

Well, but we, the more sensible people, know that this is all total crap, right? And of course they are all hypocritical about it, but since horniness is such a strong force

I am prepared to forgive them for this (as long as they keep it in their pants (or is it dress?) when it is not asked to appear)

Besides, not all branches of Christianity interprets this quite the same way. Not all demands total abstinence for priests.

As a side note, the priest in our little village here was married with, I think, five kids, but his horniness told him that running away with the male organ player was a good idea. I did feel bad for his wife and kids, but can't help smiling at the shock of the little old church ladies who thought it was much worse that he came out of the closet than that he was cheating on his wife

kedo1981 · 8th September 2008, 08:48 AM

If you really want some fun, go on a Christain forum and ask if any of them knew anybody who was "raptured" last week?
And then swear that your saintly mother/grandma was taken right before your eyes, and by the way when does the tribulation start.

RandFan · 9th September 2008, 08:31 AM

The answer seemed rather obvious to me. Perhaps not.

You can go to hell.

jimmygun · 17th September 2008, 05:05 AM

Well, I'm on their board and they have invited me to ask questions but my second question has gone unanswered since Sept 9th. They never said they would answer these questions, only that they invited me to ask them.

Autolite · 17th September 2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by jimmygun

Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out?

I don't intend to sound rude but what exactly would be the point? Christians live in an imaginary world. They denounce reality. Wouldn't that be like looking for answers in a Dr Seuss book instead of the Encyclopedia Britannica???

bokonon · 17th September 2008, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by kedo1981

If you really want some fun, go on a Christain forum and ask if any of them knew anybody who was "raptured" last week?
And then swear that your saintly mother/grandma was taken right before your eyes, and by the way when does the tribulation start.

Even Christians have fun with some of the "Rapture-Ready" crowd:

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firestorm · 20th September 2008, 07:22 AM

Are you interested in quizing the christians because your wife is christian or because deep inside you feel, that of all the religions, christianity has the best chance of being real? Why not quiz the wiccas or buddhists?

Mr Clingford · 20th September 2008, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Autolite

I don't intend to sound rude but what exactly would be the point? Christians live in an imaginary world. They denounce reality. Wouldn't that be like looking for answers in a Dr Seuss book instead of the Encyclopedia Britannica???

Your statements make me laugh. I didn't realise I go around denouncing reality. Silly me.

shipoffools has good traffic with a range of Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox and Fundamental to Liberal Christianities. There are a number of atheist and agnostic members so you wouldn't exactly be a novelty and neither would any of your questions be. If you wish to dialogue, though, it is a good place to go. Actually just lurking and reading would help you discover there are no taboo questions. I am a member there myself.

qayak · 20th September 2008, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Arthur Denton

Course. Never trust a priest these days.

Could you trust them in the past?

jimmygun · 22nd September 2008, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by Autolite

I don't intend to sound rude but what exactly would be the point? Christians live in an imaginary world. They denounce reality. Wouldn't that be like looking for answers in a Dr Seuss book instead of the Encyclopedia Britannica???

My point is to understand the Christian community better, to not be bigotted in my outlook. I know there are every possible types of Christians, the ones I deal with mostly are right and far right. If that was all there was to Christianity then my bigotted outlook would be justified, but I don't think that is the case, that there are moderates out there that I would like to converse with.

jimmygun · 22nd September 2008, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by firestorm

Are you interested in quizing the christians because your wife is christian or because deep inside you feel, that of all the religions, christianity has the best chance of being real? Why not quiz the wiccas or buddhists?

I live in a Christian dominated society that I percieve to be the major stumbling block to a more just society. The Christian right is the biggest threat to me and mine right now, not the Muslims or even the Muslim extremists.

Autolite · 22nd September 2008, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by jimmygun

My point is to understand the Christian community better, to not be bigotted in my outlook.

I suppose that I am still missing your point. By "understand" do you mean searching for reasons? You seem to be searching for rational answers from people who oppose rational thought. What exactly do you expect to gain???

jimmygun · 3rd October 2008, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by Autolite

I suppose that I am still missing your point. By "understand" do you mean searching for reasons? You seem to be searching for rational answers from people who oppose rational thought. What exactly do you expect to gain???

I hope to gain insight into the thought process (or lack thereof) of different groups of 'Christian' believers. In my opinion (based on observations of the real world) there is no god, no afterlife etc. At the same time, for instance, I like a certain type of music, can explain why and like to hear from others as to why they like other types of music. I don't have to agree with them, I just want to hear what they have to say.

I was hoping to find a sight where Christians would try to answer my questions as honestly as they could, in a straight forward manner. I started by introducing myself and asking if anyone there had any questions of an atheist, promising to answer in the same manner.

I have been disappointed again with the Student Christian Movement site, it seems they are willing to have the questions asked but not willing to answer. They are very slow to be honest but I have not gotten an answer from Joe_nag since Sept. 9, though he is still active on other threads.

http://www.movement.org.uk/index.cfm...umthreadid=526

zooterkin · 9th October 2008, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by -Fran-

I am 38 years old. I think I can handle a horny priest!

How particular are you? I mean, would one of those mail-order ordinations count? Hypothetically, I mean...

(Where did I put those stamps?...)

3rd September 2008, 02:37 AM	#1
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4th September 2008, 03:35 AM	#4
jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by Professor Yaffle I haven't read much on their forums, but the SCM (Student Christian Movement) are one of the groups more open to questioning. When I was at university, they were the opposite of the intolerant Christian Union. http://www.movement.org.uk/index.cfm?method=forum.home Thanks for the link Professor. I took some time to read the posts from that forum, to get the lay of the land so to speak. They seem to be an open minded group, one that would'nt mind a bit of back and forth banter so I joined up. Here is a copy of my first post... " Hello everyone. First time poster here. I am a bit off my beaten path, in that I am an atheist on a Christian forum. I was wondering if you would like to get to know me. I don’t pretend to speak for anyone else than myself and I am not a paying member of any organization. I would welcome your questions and I will try to answer them as honestly and as straight forward as I can. A bit of my history... I am sixty years old, retired, and have been married most of my life (38 years) to a wonderful, devout Roman Catholic. I have two children (girl and boy) and my daughter has recently given my wife and I a fabulous, wonderful, perfect, bouncing, chubby little girl! I sometimes lean toward humour (I take very little in this life seriously) but will attempt to conduct myself in a fitting manner. Jimmygun " I posted yesterday around 6:30-7:00pm but so far nothing but the sound of one hand clapping. I will post any replies here if and when they come.
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4th September 2008, 05:52 AM	#6
Blackadder Muse Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 728	Hi Jimmy, a good question. I have looked for the same. I would advise you to try your luck at some Christian sites based in the United Kingdom domain instead of the USA. Maybe it's just my bias but I found them open for discussion. I admit I know little about USA Christians, and most I hear is very negative so that is the basis of my prejudice. I just did a Google search on 'Christianity forum' and as country only sites in Uk' (you still get a lot of chaff, so among the results that turn up you must browse a bit to find something you look for. Some seem just to be places where Christians pat each ther on the back, but you should be able to find people open for discussion)
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3rd September 2008, 02:46 AM	#2
geni Anti-homeopathy illuminati member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 28,209	Originally Posted by jimmygun Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out? Depends what kind of questions do you want answers to?

4th September 2008, 06:42 AM	#7
Arthur Denton Muse Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 870	Originally Posted by jimmygun Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out? Are you planning on trolling or in honest investigation? You should ask a local priest, I think. Avoid to do so in private, you may end seduced.
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4th September 2008, 08:18 AM	#8
JoeTheJuggler Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 27,766	Also "Christian" is a very broad term. Any particular flavor of Christianity that interests you? On some issues, the differences can be stark. As has been mentioned, you should probably approach a priest, minister or other representative of the kind of Christianity you're interested in.
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-Fran- Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,581	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton Are you planning on trolling or in honest investigation? You should ask a local priest, I think. Avoid to do so in private, you may end seduced. You mean seduction of a more carnal kind here?
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Arthur Denton Muse Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 870	Originally Posted by -Fran- You mean seduction of a more carnal kind here? Course. Never trust a priest these days.
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-Fran- Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,581	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton Course. Never trust a priest these days. I thought it was just the choir boys that were in danger?
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jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton Are you planning on trolling or in honest investigation? You should ask a local priest, I think. Avoid to do so in private, you may end seduced. I sincerely would like to see if someone out there has a different take on their religion or if they are all the same. I am interested in how and why someone came to religion and how and why they feel they benifit. At the same time I am outing myself in the hopes that some group of people will get to know the atheist side of me. There is so much propaganda and misinformation about atheism that I thought I might present a 'get to know an atheist' venue. As I said, I don't speak for anyone but myself but in doing so, with others, I think I have given something to think about. I am not out to convert.
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pchams Muse Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 818	Originally Posted by Beerina Ahhh, ask some good questions, like, if the human gains a soul at the moment of conception, where does the extra soul go when the two embryos merge? Oh come on. That one is too easy. They blend together for an average, just like colours.
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7th September 2008, 07:46 AM	#15
Arthur Denton Muse Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 870	Originally Posted by -Fran- I thought it was just the choir boys that were in danger? Would you risk yourself? Originally Posted by jimmygun I sincerely would like to see if someone out there has a different take on their religion or if they are all the same. I am interested in how and why someone came to religion and how and why they feel they benifit. At the same time I am outing myself in the hopes that some group of people will get to know the atheist side of me. There is so much propaganda and misinformation about atheism that I thought I might present a 'get to know an atheist' venue. As I said, I don't speak for anyone but myself but in doing so, with others, I think I have given something to think about. I am not out to convert. From my personal experience, if you just pick up your car and roam through the country, you'll find different religious experience on the same groups of religious people. I'm catholic born, atheist, then wicca, then I thought again (thousands of times) and decided to prove stuff, hence, skeptic. I know, in the church, priests who support condom, ex-priests who campaign for priest marriage, people who believe it ain't a sin to have pre-marital sex and people who think all of that above is hideous, depending from where they come from, mostly (education helps out a lot). And since most of the people I know who love the church are literate but have never read and studied the bible, their opinion on the prophets and the role of each piece in god's chess board varies an AWESOME lot. You'll get confused. Originally Posted by Beerina Ahhh, ask some good questions, like, if the human gains a soul at the moment of conception, where does the extra soul go when the two embryos merge? Originally Posted by pchams Oh come on. That one is too easy. They blend together for an average, just like colours. Can the sperm be frozen? Is the vacuum real? Are there other dimensions? If your dog dies, does he go to heaven too? What if your brain is implanted on a robot, then, and then you die on a combat, are you already in heaven when your body and heart failed or when the robot was destroyed? What is best, scientology or faith healing? Both? Who wins the next quiddich cup? Why is the sky blue? Why can't we see ghosts? Why can't the pope bang? Why is hereditary power still looked at as rightful if often your son hates what you do and is good at something completely different altogether? Why do people prefer ferraris to lamborghinis? Why do Michael Schumacher wins better than Ayrton Senna, and still, Ayrton Senna is worshipped a ton more? Why has Hitler killed a heckload of people and there are some people who deny the holocaust? Why George Bush was re-elected? Why... and so on?
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7th September 2008, 07:54 AM	#16
-Fran- Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,581	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton Would you risk yourself? I am 38 years old. I think I can handle a horny priest!
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7th September 2008, 10:20 AM	#17
Arthur Denton Muse Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 870	Originally Posted by -Fran- I am 38 years old. I think I can handle a horny priest! Disturbing.
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-Fran- Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,581	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton Disturbing. What?
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7th September 2008, 10:43 AM	#19
Arthur Denton Muse Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 870	A horny priest.
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7th September 2008, 11:03 AM	#20
-Fran- Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,581	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton A horny priest. Nah, really, I wouldn't say that. I mean they are only humans after all and should be able to be as horny as all the rest us. A priest who directs that horniness to minors, or to anyone else who has expressed a wish not to be the subject of said horniness though - that is a disturbing priest.
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8th September 2008, 01:31 AM	#21
Sunstealer Illuminator Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,128	He's 38 not 3-8 years old.
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8th September 2008, 07:36 AM	#22
Arthur Denton Muse Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 870	Originally Posted by -Fran- Nah, really, I wouldn't say that. I mean they are only humans after all and should be able to be as horny as all the rest us. A priest who directs that horniness to minors, or to anyone else who has expressed a wish not to be the subject of said horniness though - that is a disturbing priest. No, they're holy and blessed by the bible teachings. Nothing should shake their beliefs! They're the true blessed. INRI Christ said that his sexuality was removed by his father when the true gawd told him to bow down in prayer, and he sent the orgasm through his vertebrae. True story. Google for Inri Christ. In Portuguese, I'm afraid. Priests should have that power too, they can't falter into taking hare of their sheep. Horny priest. Pfeh! Preposterous.
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8th September 2008, 07:47 AM	#23
-Fran- Master Poster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,581	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton No, they're holy and blessed by the bible teachings. Nothing should shake their beliefs! They're the true blessed. INRI Christ said that his sexuality was removed by his father when the true gawd told him to bow down in prayer, and he sent the orgasm through his vertebrae. True story. Google for Inri Christ. In Portuguese, I'm afraid. Priests should have that power too, they can't falter into taking hare of their sheep. Horny priest. Pfeh! Preposterous. Well, but we, the more sensible people, know that this is all total crap, right? And of course they are all hypocritical about it, but since horniness is such a strong force I am prepared to forgive them for this (as long as they keep it in their pants (or is it dress?) when it is not asked to appear) Besides, not all branches of Christianity interprets this quite the same way. Not all demands total abstinence for priests. As a side note, the priest in our little village here was married with, I think, five kids, but his horniness told him that running away with the male organ player was a good idea. I did feel bad for his wife and kids, but can't help smiling at the shock of the little old church ladies who thought it was much worse that he came out of the closet than that he was cheating on his wife
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8th September 2008, 08:48 AM	#24
kedo1981 Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 2,600	If you really want some fun, go on a Christain forum and ask if any of them knew anybody who was "raptured" last week? And then swear that your saintly mother/grandma was taken right before your eyes, and by the way when does the tribulation start.
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9th September 2008, 08:31 AM	#25
RandFan Mormon Atheist Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 60,135	Where can I go? The answer seemed rather obvious to me. Perhaps not. You can go to hell.
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17th September 2008, 05:05 AM	#26
jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	Well, I'm on their board and they have invited me to ask questions but my second question has gone unanswered since Sept 9th. They never said they would answer these questions, only that they invited me to ask them.
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17th September 2008, 12:34 PM	#27
Autolite Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,812	Originally Posted by jimmygun Does anyone know of a Christian site where you can ask the hard questions and get some sort of answer without being booted out? I don't intend to sound rude but what exactly would be the point? Christians live in an imaginary world. They denounce reality. Wouldn't that be like looking for answers in a Dr Seuss book instead of the Encyclopedia Britannica???
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20th September 2008, 07:22 AM	#29
firestorm Student Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 38	Are you interested in quizing the christians because your wife is christian or because deep inside you feel, that of all the religions, christianity has the best chance of being real? Why not quiz the wiccas or buddhists?
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20th September 2008, 09:01 AM	#30
Mr Clingford Master Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,087	Originally Posted by Autolite I don't intend to sound rude but what exactly would be the point? Christians live in an imaginary world. They denounce reality. Wouldn't that be like looking for answers in a Dr Seuss book instead of the Encyclopedia Britannica??? Your statements make me laugh. I didn't realise I go around denouncing reality. Silly me. shipoffools has good traffic with a range of Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox and Fundamental to Liberal Christianities. There are a number of atheist and agnostic members so you wouldn't exactly be a novelty and neither would any of your questions be. If you wish to dialogue, though, it is a good place to go. Actually just lurking and reading would help you discover there are no taboo questions. I am a member there myself.
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20th September 2008, 04:00 PM	#31
qayak Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 13,800	Originally Posted by Arthur Denton Course. Never trust a priest these days. Could you trust them in the past?
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22nd September 2008, 07:32 AM	#32
jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by Autolite I don't intend to sound rude but what exactly would be the point? Christians live in an imaginary world. They denounce reality. Wouldn't that be like looking for answers in a Dr Seuss book instead of the Encyclopedia Britannica??? My point is to understand the Christian community better, to not be bigotted in my outlook. I know there are every possible types of Christians, the ones I deal with mostly are right and far right. If that was all there was to Christianity then my bigotted outlook would be justified, but I don't think that is the case, that there are moderates out there that I would like to converse with.
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22nd September 2008, 07:36 AM	#33
jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by firestorm Are you interested in quizing the christians because your wife is christian or because deep inside you feel, that of all the religions, christianity has the best chance of being real? Why not quiz the wiccas or buddhists? I live in a Christian dominated society that I percieve to be the major stumbling block to a more just society. The Christian right is the biggest threat to me and mine right now, not the Muslims or even the Muslim extremists.
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22nd September 2008, 09:28 AM	#34
Autolite Graduate Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,812	Originally Posted by jimmygun My point is to understand the Christian community better, to not be bigotted in my outlook. I suppose that I am still missing your point. By "understand" do you mean searching for reasons? You seem to be searching for rational answers from people who oppose rational thought. What exactly do you expect to gain???
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3rd October 2008, 05:30 AM	#35
jimmygun Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,589	Originally Posted by Autolite I suppose that I am still missing your point. By "understand" do you mean searching for reasons? You seem to be searching for rational answers from people who oppose rational thought. What exactly do you expect to gain??? I hope to gain insight into the thought process (or lack thereof) of different groups of 'Christian' believers. In my opinion (based on observations of the real world) there is no god, no afterlife etc. At the same time, for instance, I like a certain type of music, can explain why and like to hear from others as to why they like other types of music. I don't have to agree with them, I just want to hear what they have to say. I was hoping to find a sight where Christians would try to answer my questions as honestly as they could, in a straight forward manner. I started by introducing myself and asking if anyone there had any questions of an atheist, promising to answer in the same manner. I have been disappointed again with the Student Christian Movement site, it seems they are willing to have the questions asked but not willing to answer. They are very slow to be honest but I have not gotten an answer from Joe_nag since Sept. 9, though he is still active on other threads. http://www.movement.org.uk/index.cfm...umthreadid=526
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9th October 2008, 07:06 AM	#36
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 52,218	Originally Posted by -Fran- I am 38 years old. I think I can handle a horny priest! How particular are you? I mean, would one of those mail-order ordinations count? Hypothetically, I mean... (Where did I put those stamps?...)
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