Bjarne on: Dark Energy, only an illusion.

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A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
Max Planck
What you fail to understand is that for something to qualify as a scientific truth, it must also be correct!

Here is another quote that you might consider adding to your posts:
"I reject your reality and substitute my own" - Adam Savage
 
I will prove that - by predicting the ADG (inside a object) will not decrease towards the center , so like "we" believe..
More ignorance from Bjarne:
The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads

The ADG inside a sphere is measured to act as predicted by Newton (decreases).

Bjarne has a fantasy not a prediction since his lack of basic mathematics means he has absolutely no idea of how the ADG varies in a sphere even according to his fantasy. E.g.
and
Test of Newton's inverse-square law in the Greenland ice cap

Bjarne's assertion is that the Greenland ice core experiment did not measure a gravity gradient because of the variation of gravity below the Earth as predicted by Newton. He seems to think that this is some sort of effect from the core's gravity.​

Bjarne, can you show us the calculation that you did for a homogeneous, solid sphere with a core that demonstrates that the Greenland ice core experiment's result is wrong?
IMO: The variation of g with raduis above the core is gr/rE + GMc/r^2​

where
  • r is the distance above the core (e.g 3487 kilometers).
  • rE is the radius of the Earth.
  • g is the acceleration of gravity at the surface of the Earth.
  • Mc is the effective mass of the core due to its different density.
Anyone who knows basic mathematics can see that this equation is not a constant. It varies with r.
Your idea fails yet again and again and again :D !
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The ADG inside a sphere is measured to act as predicted by Newton (decreases).
BUT never inside a (homogeneous) solid object.
The simple stupid cow logic difference is that two or several objects gravity interacts with each other, - a single (homogeneous) field of gravity does not, also not even though religious sects of different kinds belive so...

Bjarne has a fantasy not a prediction since his lack of basic mathematics means he has absolutely no idea of how the ADG varies in a sphere even according to his fantasy. E.g.
Ohh the math is so simple like; > all the cows in the cowhouse eat the same quantity. According to matter there is not different except matter do not sh.t space....

Bjarne, can you show us the calculation that you did for a homogeneous, solid sphere with a core that demonstrates that the Greenland ice core experiment's result is wrong?
First at all you can accuse the inner core for what you want it will not answer back if you are wrong.
Furthermore: The Greenland Ice core measurement is NOT central gravity measurement but just so superficial like you.
Your argument is waste of time.
And so it is to dream about how heavy the inne core is or not is...

Physical quantities cannot be arbitrarily assigned units of measurement,…
It requires more and more energy to get a diminishing increase in speed
Cow’s word wide agrees this is due to resistance against motion.
It seems like you (and many more) denies that there are any resistances against motion (!) + (?)
At least I have calculated that, and you cannot do better. .....
I have ask you 117 times to show the right resuslt, but (it seem to) the messages have not got through the concrete.

Mother cow told me this can only be possible because you (and any more) must be living in a unknown dimension (between the fourth and 21 dimension) and this is the only reason to that communication with the classic down to cow logic Earth reality completely have failed.

When you one day should visit the third dimension (again) I would appreciate to invited you to a cow party , and you are off course welcome to try to convince us all that all the resistance-free dimension (you live) is real, -and not only are places in your fantasy (even though resistance-free-spacy-dimentions, - contradict mathematical facts) .

But be prepared we in the worlds cow logic association are VERY skeptical, especially Mother Cow. I believe this is because she has been dragged so many heavy ploughs in here live, so she know the difference between fantasy and reality. And don't underestimate here, she know that Math: more and more energy to get a diminishing increase in speed...................

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A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.
Max Planck
 
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Excactly
And I am saying you have no idea at all how it is created.
If so tell my how can the Sun somethimes have 2 north poles ?
How is the very strong MF of the solar wind created ?
etc?

And why would the Sun not create more poles? Whenever magnetic field loops come out of the surface there is a north and a south. HOWEVER, if you look over the whole Sun, you will see that the north pole is magnetic north(south) and the south pole is magnetic south(north), and they change every 11 years or so. Apparently, you never read anything about the Sun's magnetic field.

The magnetic field in the Sun is generated in a similar way as the magnetic field of the Earth. There is a dynamo at work, which amplifies very small seed magnetic fields that are always present in a plasma.

And there is no "very strong MF of the solar wind," it is actually rather weak, on the order of 10 nanoTesla. Compare that with the magnetic field at the surface of the Earth which is about 30,000 nanoTesla. Again, you have not got the foggiest about the things you are talking about.

All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
Max plank

And how does this answer the question, what the nature of a cow is and what the reason of a cow is? So now I guess a cow is a force?

And this is exactly what I will do.
Central gravity is misunderstood.
The way matter connects with space is not understood at all.
I will prove that - by predicting the ADG (inside a object) will not decrease towards the center , so like "we" believe..

And when, prithee, do we get your paper on this topic, explaining how wrong we all are? And please in understandable english, no cows and a bit of quantitative work (i.e. numbers and equations and things like that).
 
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And why would the Sun not create more poles? Whenever magnetic field loops come out of the surface there is a north and a south. HOWEVER, if you look over the whole Sun, you will see that the north pole is magnetic north(south) and the south pole is magnetic south(north), and they change every 11 years or so. Apparently, you never read anything about the Sun's magnetic field.
The magnetic field in the Sun is generated in a similar way as the magnetic field of the Earth. There is a dynamo at work, which amplifies very small seed magnetic fields that are always present in a plasma.
And there is no "very strong MF of the solar wind," it is actually rather weak, on the order of 10 nanoTesla. Compare that with the magnetic field at the surface of the Earth which is about 30,000 nanoTesla. Again, you have not got the foggiest about the things you are talking about.
The local magnetic field in the neighborhood of a large sunspot can be as strong as 4,000 Gauss... much, much greater than the Sun's average field.

And the Sun have in period 2 magnetic North Poles.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_poles_030423.html


And when, prithee, do we get your paper on this topic, explaining how wrong we all are? And please in understandable english, no cows and a bit of quantitative work (i.e. numbers and equations and things like that).
One more measurement will be done in the biggest residence building in Denmark
And Boreholes measurement will be next (but that take at least ½ year to complete)
http://www.science27.com/english/Measurement/Index.htm
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Does he know that the sun is just a little bit BIG? There are bound to be many magnetic fields throughout the sun if for nothing else than the equator spins faster than the poles.

Paul

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BUT never inside a (homogeneous) solid object.
The simple stupid cow logic difference is that two or several objects gravity interacts with each other, - a single (homogeneous) field of gravity does not, also not even though religious sects of different kinds belive so...
The simple cow logic (Moo Cow, Bjarne :D) is that on large scales the Earth is a homogeneous solid object.
A point in testing Newton's laws of gravitation in the Greenland ice cap is that ice is (fairly) homogeneous.

A single single (homogeneous) field of gravity does interact internally , also not even though ignorant people of different kinds believe so.
That is why miners when they go down in mines do not start to float in mid air :jaw-dropp.

Ohh the math is so simple like;
...snipped usual Bjarne cow gibberish :eye-poppi....
Ohh the math is so simple like has been aught to high school students for centuries.

First at all you can accuse the inner core for what you want it will not answer back if you are wrong.
Furthermore: The Greenland Ice core measurement is NOT central gravity measurement but just so superficial like you.
Your argument is waste of time.
And so it is to dream about how heavy the inne core is or not is...
That is really silly.
The inner core does not have a voice.
Furthermore: The Greenland Ice core measurement IS gravity measurement but just so NOT superficial like you.
Your argument is waste of time.

...snipped usual Bjarne cow gibberish ....
usual Bjarne cow gibberish :eye-poppi
 
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The magnetic field in the Sun is generated in a similar way as the magnetic field of the Earth. There is a dynamo at work, which amplifies very small seed magnetic fields that are always present in a plasma.

Richard Marsden, ESA's project scientist, explained:
"We expected the Sun to have a relatively simple magnetic field, such as the Earth's or that of a magnetised iron bar.
We thought we were going to find a local increase in the field's intensity.
But the probe did not detect any such thing and all the evidence so far suggests that the Sun has no south magnetic pole.

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/Pr_26_1994_p_EN.html

Sun1.jpg

Sun2.jpg


These two images show why the Sun never has a south pole.
Try to understand the solar wind is the dynamo of the Sun’s MF, that’s why there is no South Pole.

The simple cow logic (Moo Cow, Bjarne :D) is that on large scales the Earth is a homogeneous solid object.
Right…
A point in testing Newton's laws of gravitation in the Greenland ice cap is that ice is (fairly) homogeneous.
Right….

A single single (homogeneous) field of gravity does interact internally ,
Wrong, not when it is completely homogeneous, this is what I will prove, and you will change your (orthodox stubborn concrete) mind.

That is why miners when they go down in mines do not start to float in mid air :jaw-dropp.
You can accuse the inner core for what you want, and also the underground close to the mine. None of those will answer back.

Ohh the math is so simple like has been aught to high school students for centuries.
Amen

That is really silly. The inner core does not have a voice.
Here is a man that can have 2 ways communication with the Earth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1yUfT9CrQE&feature=player_embedded#!

( I can only speak with cows, and sometimes with (some) humans) (but only in the third dimention)

Furthermore: The Greenland Ice core measurement IS gravity measurement but just so NOT superficial like you.
The inner understanding of a single (homogeneous) field of gravity is totally wrong.

An I will prove that fact.

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http://www.science27.com/images/Sun1.jpg
http://www.science27.com/images/Sun2.jpg

These two images show why the Sun never has a south pole.
Try to understand the solar wind is the dynamo of the Sun’s MF, that’s why there is no South Pole.--

Except, of course, for the fact that both your drawings do show a south pole. :roll:

Just because you failed to put an 'S' in the area where the field lines emerge, it doesn't mean there is no south pole there.

Bjarne, not only do you not understand physics, you don't even understand your own drawings. :p

Hans
 
The local magnetic field in the neighborhood of a large sunspot can be as strong as 4,000 Gauss... much, much greater than the Sun's average field.

And so WHAT? you are talking about AVERGAGE FIELD, which naturally is lower than any maximum field you may find on the Sun. That is why it is called an AVERAGE MAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTH. Are you really so dumb?

And the Sun have in period 2 magnetic North Poles.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_poles_030423.html

From the text, the second paragraph:
"It sounds impossible, but it's true," says space physicist Pete Riley of Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC) in San Diego. "In fact, it's a fairly normal side-effect of the solar cycle." Every 11 years around solar maximum, the Sun's magnetic field goes haywire as the Sun's underlying magnetic dynamo reorganizes itself. The March 2000 event was simply a part of that upheaval.

And it is not at all impossible, because only on average is the Sun a dipole. In the case of the change of the magnetic field, every 11 years or so, the dipole structure disappears first and the quadrupolar structure remains, immediately created the case of 2 north poles. There is nothing wrong there.

Stick to your cows, because all the rest you write it bull.

One more measurement will be done in the biggest residence building in Denmark
And Boreholes measurement will be next (but that take at least ½ year to complete)

Oh dear, those poor people living with you.
 

No. Read the text you refer to. READ it, I know you can read.

It says that the Ulysses probe has so far failed to detect a south pole in the area where we most expected it, but that doesn't mean it does not exist. Both your nice drawings show possible scenarios, where the south pole is in a totally different place, or is so far from the surface that there is no distinct pole area on the surface. I don't know how likely they are, but they are at least possible (which makes them better than 90% of what is on your web page).

But it STILL doesn't mean there is no south pole. Just that it may take us some time to find it.
 
And so WHAT? you are talking about AVERGAGE FIELD, which naturally is lower than any maximum field you may find on the Sun. That is why it is called an AVERAGE MAGNETIC FIELD STRENGTH. Are you really so dumb?
No I am not dump, I have good Cow IQ, this tells a LOT of the difference between you an me.

Amigo the hole point with the strength of the Suns MF and the solar winds and the Sun spots, is all: > MOTION of matter. – You can and MUST trace it back to that. THIS is the main point.

And it is not at all impossible, because only on average is the Sun a dipole. Why do you think we send a space probe to the Sun
Just for fun, or because we want to discover?
Amigo, it is discovered that the Suns MF NOT is a dipole.
The MF “S” is missing OK ?

In the case of the change of the magnetic field, every 11 years or so, the dipole structure disappears first and the quadrupolar structure remains, immediately created the case of 2 north poles. There is nothing wrong there.

Exactly and this is the point.
How on Sun is that possible?
Sun1.jpg

The image above shows how it is possible.
Temporary the Sun creates 2 “N” – because the solar wind is the dynamo.

No. Read the text you refer to. READ it, I know you can read.

It says that the Ulysses probe has so far failed to detect a south pole in the area where we most expected it, but that doesn't mean it does not exist.

Ohh yehhhh mann
I forgot, it could be hiding in the 17 th dimension together with the lost photon energy, the resistance free universe, and 1795 tonnage other difference scientific exported junk.

Let's be serious, - IF there where a MF "S" we would have measure it . It can NOT hide it self.

Both your nice drawings show possible scenarios, where the south pole is in a totally different place, or is so far from the surface that there is no distinct pole area on the surface. I don't know how likely they are, but they are at least possible (which makes them better than 90% of what is on your web page).
I will improve the drawings, don't worry. The start of lines must also be shown closer to the Magnetic Poles of the Sun

But it STILL doesn't mean there is no south pole. Just that it may take us some time to find it.

Amigo Hans, a MF = is a circulation.
Magnetic South is; = each small and big solar “ejection” / wind / storm.
This is where the MF "S" power lines come out.
This is where MN South is BORN.
Motion of matter drags space behind.
THIS mean (deformed space) in motion = THIS is a MF.
This explain why (you KNOW) the strengths of the solar wind/storm activity is proportional connected to the Sun’s “global” MF.

If there are no solar wind at all. The Sun would only have left the MF due to solar flared / spicules. – These are cause by the Suns rotation, and a different story.

So all the mysteries of the Sun MF can be cooked down to: = Mater in motion = Space in Motion = a MF.
As you can see, all you need to do is to drop the electromagnetic crappie idea.

The only mystery left is; - why pure believes so often fast is hardening inside the human brains and automatically becomes certain religious fanatic orthodox knowledge.
 
Wrong, not when it is completely homogeneous, this is what I will prove, and you will change your (orthodox stubborn concrete) mind.
...snipped usual cow gibberish...
So you will do your unspecified test on a homogeneous sphere that is the same size as the Earth?
I await your results - I will definitely not hold my breath :rolleyes: !
However given your incompetence with the Domus Vista experiment, I can predict a disaster with whatever test you are going to do.
The fact remains that scientific experiments have confirmed Newton's law of gravitation over centuries from scales of millimeters to light years (and more). This law means that the gravitational force wthin a solid sphere decreases with depth. The math is not simple but is within the capabilities of high school students.
The experimental evidence is that the gravitational force inside the Earth does vary as per Newton (The fatal flaws and basic ignorance in Bjarne's ideas in his threads).
Test of Newton's inverse-square law in the Greenland ice cap

And then there is your ignorance of the fact that geologists use gravity to map subsurface features. This depends on Newton not your fantasy.​
 
And the Sun have in period 2 magnetic North Poles.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sun_poles_030423.html
So you ignored the second paragraph as tusemfem pointed out. Now read the third paragraph:
"The south pole never really vanished," notes Riley. It migrated north and, for a while, became a band of south magnetic flux smeared around the Sun's equator. By May 2000 the south pole had returned to its usual spot near the Sun's southern spin axis--but not for long. In 2001 the solar magnetic field completely flipped; the south and north poles swapped positions, which is how they remain now.
 
No I am not dump, I have good Cow IQ, this tells a LOT of the difference between you an me.

THAT I will believe. :p

Amigo the hole point with the strength of the Suns MF and the solar winds and the Sun spots, is all: > MOTION of matter. – You can and MUST trace it back to that. THIS is the main point.

Why?

Amigo, it is discovered that the Suns MF NOT is a dipole.
The MF “S” is missing OK ?

No. We have not discovered a magnetic monopole yet. Polypoles, yes, but a monopole would be a sensation. Science does not absolutely exclude the possibility of a magnetic monopole, but it has never been observed, and is considered unlikely to exist, for a number of reasons.

Exactly and this is the point.
How on Sun is that possible?
http://www.science27.com/images/Sun1.jpg
The image above shows how it is possible.
Temporary the Sun creates 2 “N” – because the solar wind is the dynamo.

There is a south pole in that picture. You just forgot to insert the 's'.

Let's be serious, - IF there where a MF "S" we would have measure it . It can NOT hide it self.

Oh, we will find it, sooner or later.

Funny, how you are suddenly so confident in our ability to discover things, when it suits your own purposes. ;)

Amigo Hans, a MF = is a circulation.

Only as long as you have (at least) two poles. That is the reason we don't expect to find a monopole: There could be no circulation.

Note that a polypole magnet field can always be broken down to a combination of dipoles.

Hans
 
So you ignored the second paragraph as tusemfem pointed out. Now read the third paragraph:

So you ignored the second paragraph as tusemfem pointed out. Now read the third paragraph:
"The south pole never really vanished," notes Riley. It migrated north and, for a while, became a band of south magnetic flux smeared around the Sun's equator. By May 2000 the south pole had returned to its usual spot near the Sun's southern spin axis--but not for long. In 2001 the solar magnetic field completely flipped; the south and north poles swapped positions, which is how they remain now.

I am NOT changing that fact, - BUT only explaining WHY it happens.

Bjarne
Amigo the hole point with the strength of the Suns MF and the solar winds and the Sun spots, is all: > MOTION of matter. – You can and MUST trace it back to that. THIS is the main point.
Hans
Why?
Because matter sucks space, - if matter moves – and the rest of the story you have hear 117 times. – That’s why.

No. We have not discovered a magnetic monopole yet. Polypoles, yes, but a monopole would be a sensation. Science does not absolutely exclude the possibility of a magnetic monopole, but it has never been observed, and is considered unlikely to exist, for a number of reasons.
No one have claimed so.
The place where the sun winds begin is the MF "S", - so simple like that.

There is a south pole in that picture.
You just forgot to insert the 's'.
Only so that you can see where we expect the missing MNS to be.

Oh, we will find it, sooner or later.
It is found...Open you eyes...

Funny, how you are suddenly so confident in our ability to discover things, when it suits your own purposes.
Matter in motion = space in motion = a MF >> This is a simple consequence of the theory.

Only as long as you have (at least) two poles. That is the reason we don't expect to find a monopole: There could be no circulation.
Exactly and this is the problem with the discovery that is done.
I HAVE FOUND IT. – that you today not believe, will properly change.

Now you are ready to ONE MORE SUN MYSTERY
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2007/20feb_coolmystery/
Why is the MNP colder as MSP
Probably because (some of) the plasma thrown out in space, by the solar wind, returns to the Sun again, after it cools downs, in space, - and later cools down the MNP of the Sun - I guess....
Nothing returns to the Sun's MSP, hence it will not become colder.
 
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There is no end to this guys misunderstandings of the universe. Only if the guy would spend a few years taking a few courses may these misunderstandings go away.

Paul

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