How the Shanksville Crater Was Made

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yankee451 said:
"So you believe the JASSMs were in existence, in opposition with the rest of your clique"

I appreciate the grammar corrections, but I was hoping for something more substantial. I also notice none of you correct the grammar of your brethren.

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This is because, like the borg, we are a hive mind. Any grammar correction happens at a root level, obviating the need for verbal communication.


Do you have any evidence for missiles at Shanksville yet?
 
jaydeehess said:
In this case I was truly unsure of what you were trying to say and thus asking for confirmation. That's the main trouble with double negatives, they are often ambiguous.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Death Star was considered to be real the in the world of twooferism.
 
yankee451 said:
Please explain how the two bunker-buster missiles capable of traversing thick reinforced concrete bunkers before detonating 240 lbs of explosives would not be able to cut the wing gashes and cause a roughly 30 foot crater.
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I know he can't hear me, but...

...craters are round. Shh... don't tell him!
 
When Y451 comes back and say that it has not been shown that a 757 can create a creater like that seen in Shankeville one need only note that its not neccessary since the DNA of the passengers, their effects, the engines of the plane, other aircraft parts consisitent with a 757 and the FDR/CVR were all found at the place where the Radar data indicates the plane went down thus indicating that the crater in that place was created by the plane itself and not mystery weaponry or evil pixies.
 
Why bother with 3/4 of million dollar missiles and precise trajectories? Why not just send a guy to the field in the middle of the night and plant much cheaper c4 and det cord? It's be much easier and cheaper than missiles.

I know it's not as sexy of a theory, but it fits the KISS principle.
 
jaydeehess said:
When Y451 comes back and say that it has not been shown that a 757 can create a creater like that seen in Shankeville one need only note that its not neccessary since the DNA of the passengers, their effects, the engines of the plane, other aircraft parts consisitent with a 757 and the FDR/CVR were all found at the place where the Radar data indicates the plane went down thus indicating that the crater in that place was created by the plane itself and not mystery weaponry or evil pixies.
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This can't be stressed enough:

He doesn't care.


He knows it was flight 93, and you people are just playing along with him. Children will be children, but there's no need for the adults to keep playing along, patting him on the head and holding his hand. Just end the frickin thread already.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
Why bother with 3/4 of million dollar missiles and precise trajectories? Why not just send a guy to the field in the middle of the night and plant much cheaper c4 and det cord? It's be much easier and cheaper than missiles.

I know it's not as sexy of a theory, but it fits the KISS principle.
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Or even simpler, actually crash the 757 into the ground.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
Why bother with 3/4 of million dollar missiles and precise trajectories? Why not just send a guy to the field in the middle of the night and plant much cheaper c4 and det cord? It's be much easier and cheaper than missiles.

I know it's not as sexy of a theory, but it fits the KISS principle.
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I don't know, but if you want to demonstrate how the crater is better explained by using c4, sing out.
 
jaydeehess said:
When Y451 comes back and say that it has not been shown that a 757 can create a creater like that seen in Shankeville one need only note that its not neccessary since the DNA of the passengers, their effects, the engines of the plane, other aircraft parts consisitent with a 757 and the FDR/CVR were all found at the place where the Radar data indicates the plane went down thus indicating that the crater in that place was created by the plane itself and not mystery weaponry or evil pixies.
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Ahh - so you believe authority by virtue of their authority and all other evidence be damned?
 
yankee451 said:
Which cannot disappear into the ground and doesn't fit the evidence anyway.
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My point is why not crash the aircraft and simply let the chips fall where they may? That's a great deal simpler and more sensible than using experimental missiles in the unorthodox and unproven manner that you suggest.
 
NoahFence said:
This can't be stressed enough:

He doesn't care.


He knows it was flight 93, and you people are just playing along with him. Children will be children, but there's no need for the adults to keep playing along, patting him on the head and holding his hand. Just end the frickin thread already.
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I agree with this. Enough is enough now. Just let it die. I'm not going to post in anymore of his threads.
 
jaydeehess said:
In this case I was truly unsure of what you were trying to say and thus asking for confirmation. That's the main trouble with double negatives, they are often ambiguous.

Personally it lookslikely that JASSM were not in existance in 2001 but even if they were you have not demonstated that they made the crater, that they can be made to hit each other's track at exactly 180 degrees along the line of travel, or that they could indeed create the crater seen.

Until that time your contention is nothing greater than a work of fiction.
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ORLANDO, FL, 26-APR-01 --
Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control's Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile (JASSM) successfully demonstrated end-to-end performance by destroying an air defense target in a flight test at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico today. The missile was launched from a U.S. Air Force F-16 Fighting Falcon flying at Mach 0.80, at an altitude of 2,800 feet above the New Mexico Desert. After weapon release, the missile autonomously navigated and guided to the mission planned target.


http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ne...pril/LockheedMartinSJASSMDestroysTargetW.html
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You were saying?
 
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yankee451 said:
I don't know, but if you want to demonstrate how the crater is better explained by using c4, sing out.
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Do you know what the KISS principle is? It's not "I want to rock and roll all night and party everyday"....it's "Keep It Simple Stupid". Seems to me truthers fail to consider this...that someone somewhere had to sit at a table to plan this...and out of all the options available to them...they choose this one.

While I don't believe explosives were used to create a fake crater. If I was in charge of the mission, I'd want to keep it as simple as possible, with the least possibility of discovery. A one or two man team could easily plant det cord and c4 in the vacant field in the middle of the night, and make it look like a reasonable approximation of a plane crater. With missiles, there is a lot greater possibility of something going wrong..if they don't hit exactly the right way, the crater would look funny.

You do realize that we at the NWO get bonuses if our nefarious plans go under budget right? We were $10 million under budget for Hurricane Sandy, and my department got to spend it on high end call girls and blow in the Bahamas. Wow...that was some two weeks, I tell you what. Henderson is still recovering.
 
Macgyver1968 said:
Do you know what the KISS principle is? It's not "I want to rock and roll all night and party everyday"....it's "Keep It Simple Stupid". Seems to me truthers fail to consider this...that someone somewhere had to sit at a table to plan this...and out of all the options available to them...they choose this one.

While I don't believe explosives were used to create a fake crater. If I was in charge of the mission, I'd want to keep it as simple as possible, with the least possibility of discovery. A one or two man team could easily plant det cord and c4 in the vacant field in the middle of the night, and make it look like a reasonable approximation of a plane crater. With missiles, there is a lot greater possibility of something going wrong..if they don't hit exactly the right way, the crater would look funny.

You do realize that we at the NWO get bonuses if our nefarious plans go under budget right? We were $10 million under budget for Hurricane Sandy, and my department got to spend it on high end call girls and blow in the Bahamas. Wow...that was some two weeks, I tell you what. Henderson is still recovering.
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Can you think of a better way to create a wing shaped gash with a hole in it in a very short time?

If you think C4, have at it.
 
yankee451 said:
The topic is "how the Shanksville crater was made".

It is not "how do you explain all the implications about how the Shanksville crater was made"
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And you have been offered evidence--actual, practical, objective real-world, evidence that a 757 was tracked by RADAR to the Shanksville site; that debris from that 757 was found in and around the crater there; that DNA evidence identifying each of the passengers of Flight 93 was found in and around the crater; that the FDR, with data confirming the RADAR track and the FAA witnesses was recovered from the crater; and other corroborating evidence.

Your responses have been telling. (I was particularly amused by dealing with evidence you do not like by crossing it out.)

How was the Shanksville crater made?

All reasonable evidence, indicates that a 757 crashed into the ground at speed, in a nose-down, inverted attitude, burying much debris in the 757-shaped and 757-sized crater and scattering much shattered debris about the countryside.

What do you offer as an "explanation"? A photoshop lie; missiles that were not available at the time, and do not, even now, have the performance to act as your fantasy requires; and a vast, seething conspiracy involving every responder to the site, the FAA, the Navy, and nearly every citizen of Somerset County.
 
yankee451 said:
And it might have been a jet, but there is more evidence for to support a "Death Star". Missiles fit the bill, but jets don't and the only reason you believe they do is because you saw it on the TeeVee and because the rest of the herd believes it.
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Moo or Baa as the case may be.
 
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