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#761 |
Rave on, Not Fade Away
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Oh a video jammy, what's the title?
Bonkers Bollocks Redux? |
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Muse
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Oh goody! Video analysis of radar on 911 from a site about UFOs, free energy and transporters. I think I'll pass.
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a carbon based life-form
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Hostile Nanobacon
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Penultimate Amazing
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Illuminator
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Hey, 7forever, here is your chance to shine. The driver (pilot) did it!
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"Such reports are usually based on the sighting of something the sighters cannot explain and that they (or someone else on their behalf) explain as representing an interstellar spaceship-often by saying "But what else can it be?" as though thier own ignorance is a decisive factor." Isaac Asimov |
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Philosopher
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The oddist formerly known as 7forever
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911 resource site by Mark Roberts http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/home Gravy: Christopher7; You are a Basking Shark in a sea of ignorance. Galileo:The jury said I didn't have any mental defects or diseases, they declared me 100% sane. Has a jury ever declared you sane? Don’t get me lol’n off my chesterfield dude. |
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Illuminator
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Smack down by da
I have only skimmed this thread. Still just cherry picking and quotes from people that didn't happen to be looking up for the infamous millisecond? |
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"Such reports are usually based on the sighting of something the sighters cannot explain and that they (or someone else on their behalf) explain as representing an interstellar spaceship-often by saying "But what else can it be?" as though thier own ignorance is a decisive factor." Isaac Asimov |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Actually it's probably more like tens of thousands. I mean, the towers were visible from most of NE NJ, and then there's the people in Manhattan and Staten Island and Long Island. Yeah, tens of thousands at least.
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Penultimate Amazing
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Penultimate Amazing
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How far off was the military RADAR? What is the average error, and which RADAR site was the data from? It appears someone plotted the data wrong. What RADAR site was the civilian RADAR from?
Wow, your holographic fantasy has a RADAR track? Is each RADAR site seeing a different plane? You are going to use the RADAR tracks of the same plane to make up more, or believe more insane claims? This is fantasy. Why did people fail to see the Stealth Object flying right next to the holographic fantasy image you speak of? Oh, the planes are Black and you can't see them at night? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stealth_aircraft OOPS, they are not invisible, and 911 happened in daylight, the black plane would standout! You have 911 nonsense down to an art. The video fails to make a valid point |
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The best colour to camouflage planes in the daytime is pink.
http://io9.com/5872484/why-world-war...ink-camouflage |
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Critical Thinker
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Incromulent Logic
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#779 |
Potsing Whiled Runk
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Video review, AJM8125
San Francisco, Ca 21 May 2012 Before I begin, my hat's off to the video's creator for giving me the best laugh I've had in years from a truther video. It's a true delusional masterpiece and one that I'll cherish for as long as my evening's supply of beer holds out. The video, which I don't recommend watching, is apparently a 22 minute infomercial promoting Judy Wood's book and for that reason alone it should be shunned. On the other hand, It does contain pure no-planer comedy gold, which is why I'll bother with a synopsis: Apparently, two separate radar tracks have been obtained: One from civilian authorities and the other from the 84th RADES. We know it's from the 84th RADES because there's a screen grab from a spreadsheet with numbers and "84th RADES" on it, so naturally it's genuine. The civilian radar track matches all the existing video footage of Flight 175's approach and impact. The 84th RADES track shows a completely different track to impact, until it converges with the civilian radar track, suggesting that a "stealth" aircraft was flying a parallel course. It's left for the viewer to decide if this "stealth" aircraft is actually projecting the "hologram" of UAL 175 - The one that nobody saw with their owns eyes - and now we have to consider a second aircraft, a stealth version which apparently crashed into the same place as the hologram 175 did. I'll leave the obvious holes in logic for my readers to work out. My head hurts now. |
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Nope, Jerry Leaphart.
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#783 |
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Oh. I stumbled into Andrew's site after jammy linked to the stupid video.
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php Seems like Trademark jammy to me. |
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#784 |
Potsing Whiled Runk
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A radar track and stealth aircraft brought to us by the the Military Industrial ComplexTM, which isn't to be believed.
Here's your beer back. ![]() Personally I think jammy is Andy, though Jerry is also a very strong candidate. |
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A stealth plane that does show up on radar, but can't be seen with the naked eye?
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Penultimate Amazing
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Maybe 7forever is Andrew.
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Illuminator
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Illuminator
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Potsing Whiled Runk
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Penultimate Amazing
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Penultimate Amazing
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well I see that Canada's long weekend caused me to miss some action here
What really strikes me is jamms continuance of referring to King as a no plane witness despite no other report of a helicopter impact nor anyone referring to the sound of a helicopter. Since this makes it patently obvious that King's impression of the sound was in error and since King in fact had zero ability to visually check what he was hearing he simply cannot be a no plane witness. The reason this is so striking is that it illustrates the extent to which jamm's is willing to distort, misrepresent, and twist witness statements to shoehorn them to his own purposes. He compounds this by rejecting a witness who states he was "100% " certain that he watched a plane hit because the person next to him did not see it and was most likely not looking up, was a superior NYFD officer. It would be funny if not for the fact that he is claiming that the dozens of people who died on those planes were fakes. Urinating on graves is the epitome of unfunny |
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Philosopher
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"Fixin' crap that ain't broke." |
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#795 |
Penultimate Amazing
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then there is the sad saga offorever who asserts that I (ok he says"no one so I include myself") saw a recognizable plane hit the tower.
Too bad he was unable to prove it, but suffering the same delusions that jammonius and Ms. Wood is just not evidence that such delusions are valid btw, after friday and saturdays rains, sunday and monday were very nice days off |
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Incromulent Logic
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Penultimate Amazing
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Master Poster
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What's with the French names.
I have met many online characters who have claimed they saw the jets enter the buildings with their own eyes. One even claimed he was a fireman evacuating people from WTC7, standing directly below the south tower, looking straight up when 175 hit. Mostly the tactic is to use some perspective they read about or saw on T.V., and make it sound unique by putting their own personal twist in the story. In the fireman's case he was obviously using the perspective of a couple other Frenchmen, Jules and Gedeon Naudet, who filmed the first AND second strikes. I don't know if he was a pro or just disturbed, but his story didn't add up and sure enough, after enough contradictions were exposed, he finally admitted he hadn't seen squat. So you can understand my excitement to meet you. You make my fifth online personality eyewitness! And you even gave me a map and a good description of your experiences, for which I am grateful. Alas it turns out your apartment complex isn't where you pointed to, but that's an easy mistake to make so I won't hold that against you. You were amazingly close to yet another Frenchman, Luc Courchesne who had set up shop to film the second strike just up the street from where you were. You could have hit him with a spitball, imagine the coincedence! You sure you don't know him? Luc's footage was on the Naudet film "9/11" a full two years before it was released to the public, so I'm assuming you folks with the French names must like to stick together. Anyhoo, since Luc immortalized the time period you described, and ironically enough, from practically the same perspective, we can see a couple things immediately. One, you have eagle eyes to be able to recognize jumpers at that distance. Two, there were no jumpers, watch the video and see. You'll also see how distant you were. Here we see your location: ![]() I got the impression you just woke up and got out of bed, but you must have meant you were in the street. No matter though, this is how it looks today: ![]() Eagle eyes Anneliese ![]() Here's Luc Courchesne's perspective - just up the street from you. ![]() Here's the closest I could get to the same spot in Google Earth: ![]() Which puts you both right like so: ![]() Here's Luc's footage, including the second strike. I have the full length footage too, which includes the audio, but there is no mention of the jumpers; but he was very excited to catch the plane. This footage doesn't include the sound but as you can see - it was quite some distance, and there were no jumpers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggH89ssUw7I In conclusion, your description of events uses evocative, emotional language, as propagandists usually do, your perspective mimics that of Luc Courchesne's, and you were too far away to identify jumpers even if there had been jumpers. I'm pretty sure you didn't see a jet fly through a steel skyscraper with your own two eyes. |
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