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Old 8th October 2018, 07:43 AM   #1361
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Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Believers of all stripes are notoriously easy to separate from their money. Look at the wealth of the catholic church.
Yes, as I watch all the athletes on TV pointing to the sky, belief in the paranormal is pretty widespread amongst us H. sapiens. The institution you mention has taken advantage of that and seems to have evolved based on the lifestyles of its leaders. Not unlike the FLDS and the mega-churches. Rationality has a real slog to make space for itself.
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Old 9th October 2018, 09:54 AM   #1362
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Old 11th October 2018, 09:19 PM   #1363
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Smart? More like disgusted. Not only is old Bob strutting around telling big lies, don’t you think she must see the fawning bleevers as disgusting dopes? In all these years I am not aware that she or their kids have ever attended a Bob-fest with him and the fawning rubes. Could be wrong. That is prima facia evidence of a. what she knows and b. how she feels
and privacy isn’t the basic issue. Imho.
Frankness is better than flattery here, yes.

DeAtley was pretty clear "bigfoot" was about booze and women for Bob Gimlin and Roger Patterson.

So she's a little more disgusted with bigfoot than just the fact her husband is a con man. She "reckons" he was getting drunk and banging skank back then. Every phone call, every trip he makes, every news article or show she sees with him, just replace "bigfoot" with "skank whore" and you see it like Mrs. Gimlin sees it with old Bob and his "Bigfoot".

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Old 12th October 2018, 04:52 AM   #1364
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Do you think this Bigfoot scheme was cooked up as a way to re-live the drinking and dames lifestyle of the rodeo circuit?

The wives figured it out, and banned Bigfoot from being spoken about. Salt of the Earth Gimlin probably still could land some Bigfoot Fan Girl tail at some of those conventions. But he is Salt of the Earth, maybe not to his wife though. She might have caught on.
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Old 12th October 2018, 05:01 AM   #1365
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This is one of the funniest political ads I have ever seen.

I'm gonna post it in the politics category too.

Whoever made this, really knows Bigfoot and Bigfooters. Look at all the insider stuff in the commercial. Various PGF references, almost dropped the camera, I was prepared to stay there for weeks, etc...

Well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iU_8wSvSW4
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Old 12th October 2018, 06:57 AM   #1366
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This is one of the funniest political ads I have ever seen.

I'm gonna post it in the politics category too.

Whoever made this, really knows Bigfoot and Bigfooters. Look at all the insider stuff in the commercial. Various PGF references, almost dropped the camera, I was prepared to stay there for weeks, etc...

Well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iU_8wSvSW4
Hilarious. Very well done.
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Old 12th October 2018, 11:44 AM   #1367
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This is one of the funniest political ads I have ever seen.

I'm gonna post it in the politics category too.

Whoever made this, really knows Bigfoot and Bigfooters. Look at all the insider stuff in the commercial. Various PGF references, almost dropped the camera, I was prepared to stay there for weeks, etc...

Well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iU_8wSvSW4
That's the first political ad I've seen in a long time that doesn't insult my intelligence, and that you couldn't use in a "take a shot every time you spot a logical fallacy" drinking game.
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Old 13th October 2018, 03:28 PM   #1368
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Do you think this Bigfoot scheme was cooked up as a way to re-live the drinking and dames lifestyle of the rodeo circuit?

The wives figured it out, and banned Bigfoot from being spoken about. Salt of the Earth Gimlin probably still could land some Bigfoot Fan Girl tail at some of those conventions. But he is Salt of the Earth, maybe not to his wife though. She might have caught on.
Of course it was. And still is.

It's easy to empathize with guys wanting adulation, a hoo-rah, and sporting girls. Even morbidly obese ones if those are the circles you move in.

It's even easier to empathize with Bob's wife though. Or Roger's wife, my God! She went without electricity, running water, no bank account for reason of bad checks floating all over town, collectors after them... it had to be bad. Relying on help from family. Then when it looks like the bigfoot thing might even pay: he is dying. No life insurance, no equity, medical and funeral expenses looming - how trying it must have been.

Bob Gimlin's opportunity cost from a long week-end of drinking, gas money, food away from home and etc. was to instead be doing basic cowboy work, construction labor, seasonal and temporary stuff but the difference between making money and blowing it.

That's pretty basic as far as relationships go. A guy gets about all the slack he needs when he starts laying down the Benjamins on his wife. I don't think Bob does that either before or after he goes to a bigfoot event.

I've never read much fiction, it seems like there's still plenty of fascinating real life going on. Look how such a seedy mileu ended up being the underpinning of the Bigfoot phenomenon.
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Old 16th October 2018, 01:31 PM   #1369
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Old 16th October 2018, 01:44 PM   #1370
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https://mavenroundtable.io/theintell...e%20Enthusiast
Compared to that guy, footers seem almost sane.
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Extremely reliable sources indicate that Matt Moneyscammer has worn out his welcome in the world of TV productions. He’s pitching but nobody is catching. Even though he doesn’t have a show to produce, MM is selling “Executive Producer” credits (those titles that roll by at the end of the show) to suckers for several thousand dollars.

Meanwhile Cliffie is selling all you can eat snipe hunts for a cool 750 clams which probably includes a hug, a campfire chat, an autographed photo and a Bigfoot keychain; and of course an assortment of manipulative techniques designed to make the rubes believe a Sasquatch was behind every bush. Women love that little cutie so I suspect his venture will be successful in more ways than one.
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Old 17th October 2018, 09:14 AM   #1372
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Of course it was. And still is.
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Bob Gimlin's opportunity cost from a long week-end of drinking, gas money, food away from home and etc. was to instead be doing basic cowboy work, construction labor, seasonal and temporary stuff but the difference between making money and blowing it.

That's pretty basic as far as relationships go. A guy gets about all the slack he needs when he starts laying down the Benjamins on his wife. I don't think Bob does that either before or after he goes to a bigfoot event.

I've never read much fiction, it seems like there's still plenty of fascinating real life going on. Look how such a seedy mileu ended up being the underpinning of the Bigfoot phenomenon.

Reliable sources say that ole Bob doesn’t abide by the “you can look but you can’t touch” guideline given to old men by their wives. Look for a surprised expression on the faces of women he poses with. And his wife of course knows for certain he is lying about the film.
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Old 18th October 2018, 04:55 AM   #1373
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TBH I guess that's what i'd be doing as well. Who the hell wants to talk about Bigfoot with dudes?

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I spied Bob Gimlin right away. He’s unmistakable in his pressed western shirt, new riding jeans and $300 Stetson. Plus he is only about 5’5 (with that hat ) and usually surrounded by ladies, the Elf Prince of Bigfooting
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I tell Jack, pointing out the diminutive Cowboy and he stomps over and waits for a minute as Bob finishes hugging girls.
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Old 18th October 2018, 11:45 AM   #1374
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...Who the hell wants to talk about Bigfoot with dudes?...
Even worse, they talk about the same ******* thing over and over again for literally decades. There's gotta be some mental disorder that allows these idiots to never grow tired of it. It's not money, the average "dude" into Bigfooting is not the guy making any of that big Bigfoot money.

Speaking of freaks, I wonder what happened to our favorite creepy porn lawyer child molester Dr. Matthew Johnson? Nevermind.
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Old 15th November 2018, 07:02 AM   #1376
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I hope y'all will be attending the Sasquatch Summit this weekend! Some details:
  • bigfoot merch for sale (including Don Jeffrey with his replicas of plaster casts)
  • workshops to help you be a better 'footer
  • lectures from the leading experts in bigfootology
  • and more!

Nitty-gritty:
  • 3 day, 2 night stay in a hotel/casino resort
  • $35 min registration; $100 per additional workshop
  • planning for ~600 guests

"Bigfoot" is not about people trying to solve some mystery, it's about people making money off of people gullible enough to think there's some mystery to solve.
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Old 15th November 2018, 08:53 AM   #1377
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Can I just post this here?
It's the Cryptomundo article about Leigh Harts visit to the Ohio Conference.

Evidently Leigh Hart also wrote an article which included a story about a John Cartwright that didn't sit to well with some of the Bigfooters.

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Diane, a “tell-it-how-it-is” female Bigfoot researcher, reminded us that not every broken branch in the woods can be attributed to Bigfoot and that other known animals such as bears also make footprints on the odd occasion.

She was remarkably logical and scientific, but blew all credibility when she admitted she still believed in Bigfoot, although she had never actually seen it herself.

Her credibility was further called into question when, in the early hours, rather than being out on one of the scheduled night hunts, she chose to stay in the Wild Things bar and pashed not one, but two different camouflage-wearing Bigfoot enthusiasts.

Another speaker hadn’t actually been back in the woods since 1981.

He was clearly emotionally scarred by his “encounter” and had trouble talking about the details without crying, getting feedback from the microphone or talking in a voice that suggested his testicles were being given a powerful foot massage.

This guy was so emotional you would think that rather than just seeing a Bigfoot eating berries in the woods, he had been gang raped by five of them. He also blamed Bigfoot for his overweight condition.

The most fascinating thing about a Bigfoot conference, however, is the internal politics or infighting that goes on between various factions. There is of course the BFRO, or Bigfoot Research Organisation, the OBFRC, or Ohio Bigfoot research Centre, the WBFRO, or Wisconsin Bigfoot Research Organisation, the United Bigfoot Research Society and, of course, the BFUFOSDI, or Bigfoot, UFO and Submersible Dinosaur Institute, run by the controversial Dr Gerry Garciamansoin, to name just a few.

These organisations are battling it out for column inches, T-shirt sales, and website hits. To have the upper hand they obviously need to bad mouth each other, call into question others’ expertise and techniques, and generally promote themselves as the one true organisation. The parallels with religion are obvious, as we have many idiots believing in something they can’t actually see, yet they are prepared to fight to ensure that their particular blind faith is more dominant than someone else’s.

The keynote speaker for the evening was supposed to be the director of the documentary series Monster Quest, so you can imagine the disappointment when he decided not to show up.

I saw an opportunity, and volunteered to speak. I began by introducing myself as a director from New Zealand, then proceeded to educate the KFC-eating audience about the KFC-eating Waitakere Yeti. Borrowing from the American Indian “Sasquatch” legend I told them that our native Maori had encountered the beast more than 400 years ago and affectionately called him Ngawa Whakata Cafe, which loosely translates into “large, hairy, coffee-coloured man”. The fact that coffee had only been in the country for 150 years or so was a detail that didn’t seem to bother them.

I told them that our beast was less shy than theirs and had been known to rape campers or trampers, the most documented case been that of Travis Collins who was raped by the beast, not once but three times over a four-year period.

They also believed that back in New Zealand I currently ran the largest faeces analysis machine in the world, giving me a standing ovation when I finally left the podium.

Had I not handed out fake business cards I suspect there would be hundreds of plastic bags of humanoid **** landing on my doorstep as we speak.

So now you know why I always keep a handful of Bill Ralston’s cards in my wallet, you just never know when you might need them.
https://cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/kiwi-hoax/
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On the fourth occasion the beast said, "Travis, this really ain't about cryptos, is it?"
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Old 15th November 2018, 10:15 AM   #1379
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I hope y'all will be attending the Sasquatch Summit this weekend! Some details:
  • bigfoot merch for sale (including Don Jeffrey with his replicas of plaster casts)
  • workshops to help you be a better 'footer
  • lectures from the leading experts in bigfootology
  • and more!

Nitty-gritty:
  • 3 day, 2 night stay in a hotel/casino resort
  • $35 min registration; $100 per additional workshop
  • planning for ~600 guests

"Bigfoot" is not about people trying to solve some mystery, it's about people making money off of people gullible enough to think there's some mystery to solve.
Apparently our rental Attorney General is a bigfoot entrepreneur as well.
https://www.syracuse.com/us-news/ind...me_travel.html

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Whitaker appeared in some promotional videos for World Patent Marketing, including for a hot tub product, but also used his name as a former U.S. Attorney and Republican candidate for United States Senate to bolster the company's stranger items.

For example, a promotional video from the company claimed "DNA evidence collected in 2013 proves that Bigfoot does exist" to help sell Sasquatch dolls and a celebrity event called "You Have Been Squatched!"
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Extremely reliable sources indicate that Matt Moneyscammer has worn out his welcome in the world of TV productions. He’s pitching but nobody is catching. Even though he doesn’t have a show to produce, MM is selling “Executive Producer” credits (those titles that roll by at the end of the show) to suckers for several thousand dollars.

Meanwhile Cliffie is selling all you can eat snipe hunts for a cool 750 clams which probably includes a hug, a campfire chat, an autographed photo and a Bigfoot keychain; and of course an assortment of manipulative techniques designed to make the rubes believe a Sasquatch was behind every bush. Women love that little cutie so I suspect his venture will be successful in more ways than one.
If Bobo is handing out pre-rolled joints, I'm in.
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If Bobo is handing out pre-rolled joints, I'm in.
Strolling through the woods on a squatch hunt with a head full of THC would be a blast, but $750 for a few pre-rolls is too pricey.
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Old 17th November 2018, 12:11 PM   #1382
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$750 to see a Bigfoot seems cheap. A bargain.
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$750 to see a Bigfoot seems cheap. A bargain.
Good point. If enough pre-rolls are handed out a person might see one. The question then is if you still believe it 4 hours later.
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Old 17th November 2018, 12:49 PM   #1384
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Serious thing: I've never heard of anyone who claimed to see a Bigfoot and then later said that they didn't see a Bigfoot. It's like some kind of sudden permanent thing.

We have some believers who later switch to nonbelief but I'm unaware of any witnesses who made the switch.
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^^^ Because “I know what I saw and what I saw wasn’t a bear...”

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Good point. If enough pre-rolls are handed out a person might see one. The question then is if you still believe it 4 hours later.
Maybe, if you are still picking the hairs out of your teeth...
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I would think that the Bigfoot stars on Finding Bigfoot could make a decent living just going to comic cons, and pop-culture cons, signing autographs for 25-35 bucks a piece.

My kid paid 35.00 for an autograph for 'The Voice of Naruto'.

Why are they wasting time at these po-dunk Bigfoot conventions?
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Bigfoot is like cancer, according to one convention-goer...but not the way you might think:

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One of those researchers is Shelly Covington-Montana, a self-proclaimed Bigfoot enthusiast.

“This is how I like to explain it in simple terms, Bigfoot is like cancer in my opinion, everyone knows someone who's had an encounter or has had one themselves,” she said.
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Bigfoot has a very loud heartbeat. It is so loud that it can scare the crap out of teenage kids.

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Ok, the facts are it was around midnight and all was quiet except for the LOUD sound of a heartbeat that stopped us in our tracks. Pure fear made us run back towards home. We got about 5 minutes away and decided did we really hear that? We carefully walked back towards the heartbeat sound and it was definitely not our imaginations playing tricks on us. It was a slow, steady heartbeat. No other information such as growling, unusual odor, nothing. Just a slow steady sound of that heartbeat. We have no idea what could have made that sound. To this day we still believe it was a Sasquatch...
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Old 1st December 2018, 03:21 PM   #1390
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Bigfoot has a very loud heartbeat. It is so loud that it can scare the crap out of teenage kids.



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Wow! That must have been terrifying!

wonder what the drug was.
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Old 4th December 2018, 09:53 AM   #1391
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
Bigfoot has a very loud heartbeat. It is so loud that it can scare the crap out of teenage kids.



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I've heard car stereos that sounded like that too. Some people just love to show off how badly their car stereos distort the bass.
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:51 AM   #1392
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Originally Posted by Gilbert Syndrome View Post
If Bobo is handing out pre-rolled joints, I'm in.
Bobo is beloved by the footers. I have never met him but he is supposedly a very nice guy. He was once upon a time a smart guy but had some sort of serious head trauma that rendered him...well...not so smart. He has lost a huge amount of weight since the last show was taped and I’m told he looks like a different person. He is at present trying to put together a Bigfoot/snipe hunt venture.
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Old 7th December 2018, 04:12 AM   #1393
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[quote=Drewbot;12503394]Can I just post this here?
It's the Cryptomundo article about Leigh Harts visit to the Ohio Conference.

Evidently Leigh Hart also wrote an article which included a story about a John Cartwright that didn't sit to well with some of the Bigfooters.



Thanks for sharing.
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Old 7th December 2018, 02:16 PM   #1394
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Serious thing: I've never heard of anyone who claimed to see a Bigfoot and then later said that they didn't see a Bigfoot. It's like some kind of sudden permanent thing.

We have some believers who later switch to nonbelief but I'm unaware of any witnesses who made the switch.
A symptom of personality disorders.

Or character disorders as some researchers prefer. Regardless, it's why we can't be so light and cheery about how bigfoot is really just a modern Paul Bunyan myth, a cultural celebration of the logging heritage, or whatever.

It's a trap from which extricating yourself seems nigh impossible. Geez, an alcoholic or drug addict or cult devotee can turn things around.

So it's again why I find this area of human behavior so fascinating, in a morbid way.
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Old 7th December 2018, 09:41 PM   #1395
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A symptom of personality disorders.

Or character disorders as some researchers prefer. Regardless, it's why we can't be so light and cheery about how bigfoot is really just a modern Paul Bunyan myth, a cultural celebration of the logging heritage, or whatever.

It's a trap from which extricating yourself seems nigh impossible. Geez, an alcoholic or drug addict or cult devotee can turn things around.

So it's again why I find this area of human behavior so fascinating, in a morbid way.
Excellent point.
There is an initiation event in most cults which requires some sort of public humiliating statement of belief in some improbable creed. Taking this step serves to separate the initiate from the general population while at the same time giving the initiate a sense of community within the cult. To recant is to not only lose ones remaining community but also to receive ridicule from the large non-believing general public.
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Old 8th December 2018, 03:12 PM   #1396
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"We have no idea what could have made that sound. To this day we still believe it was a Sasquatch..."

Talk about jumping to conclusions, unfounded leaps, wishful thinking, etc.
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There is an initiation event in most cults which requires some sort of public humiliating statement of belief in some improbable creed. Taking this step serves to separate the initiate from the general population while at the same time giving the initiate a sense of community within the cult. To recant is to not only lose ones remaining community but also to receive ridicule from the large non-believing general public.
I guess so, yes. That's pretty harsh. It's striking to see it in action.

To further that "cult" model of thinking about it, I looked up a "cult checklist" and if others do as well one sees a number of items like the zealotry, the elitism with jargon and all, the squealching of dissent, the us-vs-them mentality, the manipulative control, etc.

I don't mean to advance the premise it is a cult. It's live action gaming, an alternate reality form that unfortunately requires many aspects of cult communities.
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Cults are characterized by some degree of ideological social or physical separation or isolation of the membership, into some kind of community. The relative isolation is caused by the bizarre and faith-based dogma. There are usually one or more charismatic leaders who interpret ambiguous phenomena as reinforcing the central dogma and manipulate members into “contributing” monetary resources. Members (as opposed to the leaders) are encouraged to proselytize, and become impoverished socially and monetarily but find it very difficult to admit to themselves that they have been played for fools.
I would submit that the footers I know are much more like cultists than like role players.
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"We have no idea what could have made that sound. To this day we still believe it was a Sasquatch..."

Talk about jumping to conclusions, unfounded leaps, wishful thinking, etc.
It seems to be part of the whole delusion:
An owl hooting in the night isn't an owl; it's a sasquatch imitating an owl.

Broken trees aren't broken by wind or snow; they're broken by sasquatches.

Do you hear something moving around in the dark? Well, clearly those noises are bipedal, and it's not a person; it's a sasquatch.

Your friends didn't prank you by throwing a Good 'n Plenty at you. A sasquatch did it.

Sticks piled up? Sasquatch.

Shadows in the twilight? Sasquatch.

They're everywhere. And nowhere.

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There is a new thread in the Coalition For Critical Thinking on Facebook.

Ron Pine is commenting on some of the NAWAC's claims.

He specifically questions where the idea of Type Specimen came to be in Bigfootry.

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Brandon Lentz: I tagged you because of your use of the term "type specimen." Somehow, and I have no idea as to how this might have happened in the first place, bigfoot afficionados, uniquely among the world's peoples, some time back got an initial misunderstanding of what this term means and this has persisted in their writings. This misuse of the term detracts from any impression they wish to make as to their scientific sophistication. (Of course, since the misuse is so common and unquestioned among his/her peers, any given bigfoot advocate who perpetuates the error cannot be blamed for the misunderstanding.) The misusers seem to think that the term means the first flesh-and-blood specimen that turns up and that convinces everyone that the creature actually exists. That is not what the term means. In zoological nomenclature, "type specimen" is a highly technical term for an anatomical sample, which could consist of a whole animal or a group of them; or nothing more than a DNA sample; or an animal shown in a photograph; or in a drawing; or even merely the subject of a written description; that is designated as the "name-bearer" for an acceptable scientific NAME--and there are complicated rules which have nothing to do with zoology as to whether that NAME is acceptable (or, as the zoological nomenclature mavens put it, "available)." "Available" meaning that the NAME could actually be legitimately used by scientists now or someday if certain conditions are met. The NAME and its "type specimen" need not even be for a previously unknown and unnamed animal--this occurring, by the way, is very, very common. As noted above, what the bigfoot advocates are really talking about being needed is an actual specimen, preferably a whole one, which convinces everyone, including skeptical scientists, that bigfoots exist. That specimen may, for any number of reasons, never end up being what scientists call a type specimen. There are many scenarios, some not at all unlikely and some quite complicated, that could keep it from ever becoming one, which I will not enumerate here. Every time that a bigfoot advocate says that what's really needed is a type specimen, he/she should just say what's really needed is a specimen.
Anyway, I was wondering, do you know which Bigfooter started the trope of 'Type Specimen' with regard to Bigfoot research?
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