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Old 7th December 2018, 10:00 AM   #561
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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It has been incorrectly reported that Rudy Giuliani and others will not be doing a counter to the Mueller Report. That is Fake News. Already 87 pages done, but obviously cannot complete until we see the final Witch Hunt Report.

We will be doing a major Counter Report to the Mueller Report. This should never again be allowed to happen to a future President of the United States!
He really does think he's king.
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:13 AM   #562
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I'm not sure I understand this.

They are producing a counter report, to counter a report that hasn't been released yet?
Yep, and they are confident it will be well-countered, after admitting they don't know what will be in the report. That's pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
Yep, and they are confident it will be well-countered, after admitting they don't know what will be in the report. That's pretty funny.
It tells you that the meat of their counter will be attacking the attackers, not attacking the claims. This should be familiar ground for most members here.
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:23 AM   #564
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
It tells you that the meat of their counter will be attacking the attackers, not attacking the claims. This should be familiar ground for most members here.
Amen... nice to see people pointing out the flaws in their own fellow travelers once in a while.
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:33 AM   #565
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Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
Yep, and they are confident it will be well-countered, after admitting they don't know what will be in the report. That's pretty funny.
Already 87 pages? How many of them did the President color himself?
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:34 AM   #566
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
It tells you that the meat of their counter will be attacking the attackers, not attacking the claims. This should be familiar ground for most members here.
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Already 87 pages? How many of them did the President color himself?
I'm betting they accidentally reveal additional damning evidence.
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:45 AM   #567
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Originally Posted by The Greater Fool View Post
I'm betting they accidentally reveal additional damning evidence.
"The incompetent Mueller Team didn't even go the the field where we buried the bodies!"
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:54 AM   #568
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Amen... nice to see people pointing out the flaws in their own fellow travelers once in a while.
So what's your excuse?
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Old 7th December 2018, 10:56 AM   #569
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So what's your excuse?
He doesn't need one.

TBD has never, ever been wrong.
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post
He doesn't need one.

TBD has never, ever been wrong.
So he's like me, then.
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Old 7th December 2018, 11:05 AM   #571
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Originally Posted by 3point14 View Post
He doesn't need one.

TBD has never, ever been wrong.
oh dear...

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oh dear...

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Old 7th December 2018, 11:09 AM   #573
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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Jerome Corsi: ”This is not justice, this is not America. This is a political prosecution. The Special Prosecutor (Counsel), to get this plea deal, demanded I lie and violate the law. They’re the criminals.” He is not alone. 17 Angry Dems. People forced to lie. Sad! @Trish_Regan

Trish_Regan: “Did the FBI follow protocol to obtain the FISA warrant? I don’t think so. The Dossier was opposition research funded by opponents. Don’t use Government resources to take down political foes. Weaponizing Government for gain.” Is this really America? Witch Hunt!
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Trump Tweets a huge (for him) statement on the investigation.

Robert Mueller and Leakin’ Lyin’ James Comey are Best Friends, just one of many Mueller Conflicts of Interest. And bye the way, wasn’t the woman in charge of prosecuting Jerome Corsi (who I do not know) in charge of “legal” at the corrupt Clinton Foundation? A total Witch Hunt...

....Will Robert Mueller’s big time conflicts of interest be listed at the top of his Republicans only Report. Will Andrew Weissman’s horrible and vicious prosecutorial past be listed in the Report. He wrongly destroyed people’s lives, took down great companies, only to be........

.....overturned, 9-0, in the United States Supreme Court. Doing same thing to people now. Will all of the substantial & many contributions made by the 17 Angry Democrats to the Campaign of Crooked Hillary be listed in top of Report. Will the people that worked for the Clinton....

....Foundation be listed at the top of the Report? Will the scathing document written about Lyin’ James Comey, by the man in charge of the case, Rod Rosenstein (who also signed the FISA Warrant), be a big part of the Report? Isn’t Rod therefore totally conflicted? Will all of....

...the lying and leaking by the people doing the Report, & also Bruce Ohr (and his lovely wife Molly), Comey, Brennan, Clapper, & all of the many fired people of the FBI, be listed in the Report? Will the corruption within the DNC & Clinton Campaign be exposed?..And so much more!
OMG, the panic is really setting in now.
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Well, if the Court of Public Opinion in an at least 181537082 to 145229665 decision sides with Trump we will have wasted Mueller's time.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Well, if the Court of Public Opinion in an at least 181537082 to 145229665 decision sides with Trump we will have wasted Mueller's time.

Well regardless, it looks like a large majority of Americans want his report made public...

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...-new-poll-says
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Rep. Darrell Issa told reporters that Sniggering James Comey is not answering questions - on issues like the start of the Russia investigation and the Carter Page FISA - at the direction of a Justice Dept. attorney who is accompanying Comey.

hoo boy, time to clear house over by the DoJ.
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Old 7th December 2018, 11:37 AM   #577
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A lengthy interview with Seth Abramson:
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None of Trump's attorneys, I would say, seem to be very skilled. I don’t know whether they know the truth or simply suspect the truth, but I will tell you this is the advice Trump's attorneys are likely giving him: "You need to stay in the Oval Office for as long as you possibly can, because the moment you leave the Oval Office, you are going to be indicted. If you can find a way to hold on to 2020 and stay in office another four years after that, then that is what you need to do, because once you leave office you'll be indicted."
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/06/att...ry-part-1-of-2
https://www.salon.com/2018/12/07/aut...s-part-2-of-2/
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Rep. Darrell Issa told reporters that Sniggering James Comey is not answering questions - on issues like the start of the Russia investigation and the Carter Page FISA - at the direction of a Justice Dept. attorney who is accompanying Comey.

hoo boy, time to clear house over by the DoJ.
So it's time to jump to conclusions without hearing the other side, without understanding what the legal advice might be, whether it is proper, whether the questions that were asked but not answered were proper, etc.?
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Old 7th December 2018, 11:48 AM   #579
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Yummy! salon and the poet exploring “experimental journalism” that embraces “the multi-dimensionality of metanarrative.”

lolz
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Old 7th December 2018, 11:52 AM   #580
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So it's time to jump to conclusions without hearing the other side, without understanding what the legal advice might be, whether it is proper, whether the questions that were asked but not answered were proper, etc.?
Rule of So warms the cockles of my heart.

Last I checked Congress has oversight over the FBI, not the other way around. So, you don't believe in the Constitution anymore?
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Old 7th December 2018, 11:52 AM   #581
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So it's time to jump to conclusions without hearing the other side, without understanding what the legal advice might be, whether it is proper, whether the questions that were asked but not answered were proper, etc.?
Come on, it's always time to do that!
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:00 PM   #582
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OMG, the panic is really setting in now.
Generall Kelly's last act of defiance: Wrestling the TweetyPhone out of The PDJT's little hands and making a sane post regarding Pearl Harbor.
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:04 PM   #583
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Yummy! salon and the poet exploring “experimental journalism” that embraces “the multi-dimensionality of metanarrative.”

lolz
You understand he's a criminal defense attorney, right?

Get back to us after you've read the interview.

And his latest book is an NYT bestseller:
https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusi.../dp/1982116080
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You understand he's a criminal defense attorney, right?

Get back to us after you've read the interview.

And his latest book is an NYT bestseller:
https://www.amazon.com/Proof-Collusi.../dp/1982116080
You understand that he was a state PD years ago, before he became a poet and admitted prevaricator, he is clown and totally incompetent and the fact that he turned his insipid book of tweets into a best seller is a sign that America's left is going to hell in a hand basket.

Any questions?

get back to The Big Dog after you read this thread, you dig?
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You understand that he was a state PD years ago, before he became a poet and admitted prevaricator, he is clown and totally incompetent and the fact that he turned his insipid book of tweets into a best seller is a sign that America's left is going to hell in a hand basket.

Any questions?

get back to The Big Dog after you read this thread, you dig?
What's your beef with him then? Are clowns only allowed on Trump's team?

I also think that Wisconsin's electoral map is more of a damning indictment of the US. The party with 46% of the votes getting 64% of the seats is shocking.


It is possible to believe in democracy and fairness above any particular party.
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It is possible to believe in democracy and fairness above any particular party.
Possible? Yes. Expedient? No.
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What's your beef with him then?
well, he is a liar, and people put him up as a "legal expert" but as far as i have heard he never even tried a case in federal court and gave up practicing law to practice political grift a decade ago.
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:29 PM   #588
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well, he is a liar, and people put him up as a "legal expert" but as far as i have heard he never even tried a case in federal court and gave up practicing law to practice political grift a decade ago.
Now I'm confused.

Or is it only incompetent liars that you like?
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Now I'm confused.

Or is it only incompetent liars that you like?
well, y'all are half right, and all wrong
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While Mueller may have a new can of worms to pursue, it's also probable he wasn't just waiting for the 2018 election, he actually has to wait until the new Congress takes office.

Compare this to Ken Starr who looked under rock after rock and never found anything except suspicion, much of which was like the Benghazi and email obsessions, nothing worthy of criminal or even civil pursuit.

Mueller OTOH, has so much criminal material he may just have to stop because there is no end to the crimes. There are articles that Trump has been money laundering for the Russian mob for decades.

Salon: Investigative reporter Craig Unger: “Trump has had contacts with the Russian mafia for 35 years”
Author of “House of Trump, House of Putin” on the president’s long history with Russian oligarchs and murky money


I've not heard that book was debunked like several of the alt-right gems: Clinton Cash (pure BS) and John Fund's book on voter fraud (another pile of BS).
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well, y'all are half right, and all wrong
Very manly choice of colours.
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While Mueller may have a new can of worms to pursue, it's also probable he wasn't just waiting for the 2018 election, he actually has to wait until the new Congress takes office.

Compare this to Ken Starr who looked under rock after rock and never found anything except suspicion, much of which was like the Benghazi and email obsessions, nothing worthy of criminal or even civil pursuit.

Mueller OTOH, has so much criminal material he may just have to stop because there is no end to the crimes. There are articles that Trump has been money laundering for the Russian mob for decades.

Salon: Investigative reporter Craig Unger: “Trump has had contacts with the Russian mafia for 35 years”
Author of “House of Trump, House of Putin” on the president’s long history with Russian oligarchs and murky money


I've not heard that book was debunked like several of the alt-right gems: Clinton Cash (pure BS) and John Fund's book on voter fraud (another pile of BS).
I laughed.

Four Americans including a US Ambassador getting killed and “one of the gravest modern offenses to government transparency.” ? No biggie.

Conspiracy theories about money laundering for the Russian Mob? Oh yeah, baby, that is the stuff!
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well, y'all are half right, and all wrong
Well as Trump continually contradicts himself - we can certainly say that he's an unusually prolific liar and seems to hold little concept of the truth.

Maybe you can't see that as being an incompetent liar, but most Americans do.
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Very manly choice of colours.
Stop provoking him or he'll keep trolling with even more insipid references to himself in the 3rd person.
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Well as Trump continually contradicts himself - we can certainly say that he's an unusually prolific liar and seems to hold little concept of the truth.

Maybe you can't see that as being an incompetent liar, but most Americans do.
Oh dear, we were talking about incompetent actual liar Seth. Please do keep up with the learning?
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Stop provoking him or he'll keep trolling with even more insipid references to himself in the 3rd person.
If you're really lucky he'll bring up irrelevant fallacies.
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Old 7th December 2018, 12:58 PM   #597
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Originally Posted by The Shrike View Post
Stop provoking him or he'll keep trolling with even more insipid references to himself in the 3rd person.
I was under the impression that he was actually a she?
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
If you're really lucky he'll bring up irrelevant fallacies.
Just let lying dogs sleep. He's not contributing to the discussion.
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Old 7th December 2018, 01:01 PM   #599
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Meanwhile, with Paul Manafort's initial plea bargain, and the parts that still stand, this investigation is profitable.
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link is 2015 data (2013 Data below):
UK 8.5% of GDP of which 83.3% is public expenditure - 7.1% of GDP is public spending
US 16.4% of GDP of which 48.2% is public expenditure - 7.9% of GDP is public spending
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Old 7th December 2018, 01:07 PM   #600
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
I laughed.

Four Americans including a US Ambassador getting killed? No biggie.

Conspiracy theories about money laundering for the Russian Mob? Oh yeah, baby, that is the stuff!
They aren’t “theories” boyo.
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