Businesses Govern Trump

Kaylee · 12th January 2021, 09:20 PM

It seems to me that businesses are stepping into the government vaccuum to rein Trump in:

Twitter and Facebook have banned him.
Stripe inc., a credit card processing company, will no longer process card payments for Trump's campaign website. (1)
Shopify.com took businesses run by Trump's business and campaign off-line. (1)
The Mayor of New York City is considering canceling contracts with the Trump Organization that runs two ice rinks, the Central Park Carousel, and a golf course. (2)
Deutsche Bank, the holder of Trump's largest debt, and the firm that has propped up the Trump Organization for two decades announced it would no longer do business with the president. (3)
"Another of Trump’s key lenders, Signature Bank, said it was closing his two personal accounts, which held a combined $5.3m in deposits." (3)
The US Professional Golfers’ Association said it would no longer hold its championship in May 2022 at Trump’s New Jersey golf club. (3)
Leading firms and banks have said that they will stop donating money to Trump through political action committees (PACs). The companies include Coca-Cola, the Marriott hotel chain, AT&T, JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and Morgan Stanley. (3)

Right now quite frankly I feel relieved that large organizations are doing what they can to make a dangerous man less powerful during a very vulnerable time for our country. I'm not aware of anything llike this being ever being done on such a large scale before. But it also makes me feel a little uneasy. Will this become the new normal and be done to other people who may not be evil but just unpopular or not to the liking of large corporations?

Links
(1) https://www.wsj.com/articles/stripe-...te-11610319116

(2) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/nyregion/trump-golf-course-carousel-ice-rinks.html

(3) https://www.theguardian.com/business...h-donald-trump

dudalb · 12th January 2021, 09:27 PM

He got freaking Hallmark made on him...

angrysoba · 12th January 2021, 09:27 PM

Has it ever really been that different?

Has there ever been some extreme freedom of the press whereby anyone who wanted could get airtime on any of the networks or write articles in the press?

No. Conspiracy theorists used to have to print their own leaflets and have mailing lists and stand on street corners to deliver their foam-flecked rants about the Illuminati to the tin-foil hatted loons.

Mainstream politicians received campaign funds from arms manufacturers, lobby groups, oil companies etc....

I don't think that any of this divestment or refusal to platform crazy speech is new. What is new is that it had never gained as much attention as it has, until now.

Myriad · 12th January 2021, 09:29 PM

But I can still get a Trumpy Bear, right? I don't think Trump ever actually authorized those, or profits from them.

dudalb · 12th January 2021, 09:34 PM

Even Mickey Mouse has turrned on Trumpdom:

https://thehill.com/regulation/busin...ho-objected-to

The Great Zaganza · 12th January 2021, 09:34 PM

Trump will go back to the days when he tried to pay his bills in sports memorabilia.

Kaylee · 12th January 2021, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Has it ever really been that different?

<snip>

I don't think that any of this divestment or refusal to platform crazy speech is new. What is new is that it had never gained as much attention as it has, until now.

Perhaps that's it. And the speed! Compare how quickly these corporations have moved to the House on impeachment. I realize that may not be a fair comparison as there are probably a lot of i's to dot and t's to cross for the House, but still the difference in speed is amazing.

dudalb · 12th January 2021, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Trump will go back to the days when he tried to pay his bills in sports memorabilia.

Trump owes overs over half a billion dollars to his creditors form his pre Presidency buisness failures and on Jan 21st they will be coming around to collect....

zorro99 · 12th January 2021, 09:59 PM

Add YouTube to the list.

Norman Alexander · 12th January 2021, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Trump will go back to the days when he tried to pay his bills in sports memorabilia.

Which will be about as successful as Trump University, Trump steaks, Trump vodka, Trump airlines and Trump casinos.

No wonder he's spinning around so angry. All his "friends" have deserted him. Of course, he forgets how many of his "friends" he has deserted himself. Ask The Mooch what it's like under the bus.

12th January 2021, 09:20 PM	#1
Kaylee Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,222	Businesses Govern Trump It seems to me that businesses are stepping into the government vaccuum to rein Trump in: Twitter and Facebook have banned him. Stripe inc., a credit card processing company, will no longer process card payments for Trump's campaign website. (1) Shopify.com took businesses run by Trump's business and campaign off-line. (1) The Mayor of New York City is considering canceling contracts with the Trump Organization that runs two ice rinks, the Central Park Carousel, and a golf course. (2) Deutsche Bank, the holder of Trump's largest debt, and the firm that has propped up the Trump Organization for two decades announced it would no longer do business with the president. (3) "Another of Trump’s key lenders, Signature Bank, said it was closing his two personal accounts, which held a combined $5.3m in deposits." (3) The US Professional Golfers’ Association said it would no longer hold its championship in May 2022 at Trump’s New Jersey golf club. (3) Leading firms and banks have said that they will stop donating money to Trump through political action committees (PACs). The companies include Coca-Cola, the Marriott hotel chain, AT&T, JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and Morgan Stanley. (3) Right now quite frankly I feel relieved that large organizations are doing what they can to make a dangerous man less powerful during a very vulnerable time for our country. I'm not aware of anything llike this being ever being done on such a large scale before. But it also makes me feel a little uneasy. Will this become the new normal and be done to other people who may not be evil but just unpopular or not to the liking of large corporations? Links (1) https://www.wsj.com/articles/stripe-...te-11610319116 (2) https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/nyregion/trump-golf-course-carousel-ice-rinks.html (3) https://www.theguardian.com/business...h-donald-trump
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12th January 2021, 09:27 PM	#2
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	He got freaking Hallmark made on him...
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12th January 2021, 09:27 PM	#3
angrysoba Philosophile Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 28,856	Has it ever really been that different? Has there ever been some extreme freedom of the press whereby anyone who wanted could get airtime on any of the networks or write articles in the press? No. Conspiracy theorists used to have to print their own leaflets and have mailing lists and stand on street corners to deliver their foam-flecked rants about the Illuminati to the tin-foil hatted loons. Mainstream politicians received campaign funds from arms manufacturers, lobby groups, oil companies etc.... I don't think that any of this divestment or refusal to platform crazy speech is new. What is new is that it had never gained as much attention as it has, until now.
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12th January 2021, 09:29 PM	#4
Myriad The Clarity Is Devastating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Betwixt Posts: 17,260	But I can still get a Trumpy Bear, right? I don't think Trump ever actually authorized those, or profits from them.
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12th January 2021, 09:34 PM	#5
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Even Mickey Mouse has turrned on Trumpdom: https://thehill.com/regulation/busin...ho-objected-to
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12th January 2021, 09:34 PM	#6
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,269	Trump will go back to the days when he tried to pay his bills in sports memorabilia.
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12th January 2021, 09:37 PM	#7
Kaylee Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,222	Originally Posted by angrysoba Has it ever really been that different? <snip> I don't think that any of this divestment or refusal to platform crazy speech is new. What is new is that it had never gained as much attention as it has, until now. Perhaps that's it. And the speed! Compare how quickly these corporations have moved to the House on impeachment. I realize that may not be a fair comparison as there are probably a lot of i's to dot and t's to cross for the House, but still the difference in speed is amazing.
Kaylee Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,222

12th January 2021, 09:39 PM	#8
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 49,832	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Trump will go back to the days when he tried to pay his bills in sports memorabilia. Trump owes overs over half a billion dollars to his creditors form his pre Presidency buisness failures and on Jan 21st they will be coming around to collect....
	__________________ Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein.

12th January 2021, 09:59 PM	#9
zorro99 Muse Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 913	Add YouTube to the list.
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12th January 2021, 10:09 PM	#10
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,428	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Trump will go back to the days when he tried to pay his bills in sports memorabilia. Which will be about as successful as Trump University, Trump steaks, Trump vodka, Trump airlines and Trump casinos. No wonder he's spinning around so angry. All his "friends" have deserted him. Of course, he forgets how many of his "friends" he has deserted himself. Ask The Mooch what it's like under the bus.
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